Foxxed Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 It's pre-season and I'm bored. Price Ghezzal - 14 million Gray - 3.4 million Albrighton - free Barnes - academy Minutes played Gray - 1996 (Gray ENG - 255) Albrighton - 1627 Barnes - 1010 Ghezzal - 739 Goals Gray - 4 (Gray ENG - 1) Albrighton - 2 Barnes - 1 Ghezzal - 1 Assists Barnes - 4 Albrighton - 2 Gray - 1 (Gray ENG - 0) Ghezzal - 0 Shots per game Barnes - 2.5 Gray - 1.4 (Gray ENG - 3.7) Ghezzal - 1 Albrighton - 0.7 Key passes per game Barnes - 1.5 Albrighton - 1.1 Ghezzal - 0.8 Gray - 0.5 (Gray ENG - 1) Tackles per game Albrighton - 1.3 Ghezzal - 0.7 Gray - 0.7 (Gray ENG - 3.3) Barnes - 0.4 Total chances created Albrighton - 29 Barnes - 17 Gray - 17 (Gray ENG - no stats) Ghezzal - 16 Total crosses Albrighton - 125 Gray - 52 (Gray ENG - no stats) Ghezzal - 45 Barnes - 23 Passing accuracy Ghezzal - 79 Barnes - 79 Gray - 77 (Gray ENG - 89) Albrighton - 65 I included Gray’s u21 games as food for thought: when he puts on the national colours he tackles more, shoots more, has a better pass accuracy, goals per minute ratio and provides double the key passes. And in Barnes's first half season he's become our best key passer and assister. (Stats are from whoscored and sky sports.)
Ric Flair Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 In other words, the absolute fcukin pits and our weakest area.
CollinsLCFC Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 This evidences that Gray really needs to step up. Ghezzal has created one less chance, more key passes with over half less game time.
yorkie1999 Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 What about defensive tackles. I bet Albrighton comes top in that.
lgfualol Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Barnes is the only one I want starting next season. We need to spend some money.
urban fox Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 A wingers primary role is to get crosses in and create chances. Albrighton top of the list in both these areas
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Frightening that Tielemans probably tops 99% of that in 13 games
AKCJ Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Imagine if we keep Tielemans and had kept Mahrez. **** me we'd be good.
Stadt Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Barnes is the f ucking man If you’re comparing stats then you should do it in p90 metrics
Foxxed Posted 27 June 2019 Author Posted 27 June 2019 33 minutes ago, Stadt said: Barnes is the f ucking man If you’re comparing stats then you should do it in p90 metrics I did with the whoscored metrics. The ones that aren't are from sky.
Foxxed Posted 27 June 2019 Author Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: A wingers primary role is to get crosses in and create chances. Albrighton top of the list in both these areas Yeah, fairly telling there. Albrighton's chances created stats surely come from the chance he can actually cross the ball. Barnes should improve massively with chances created next season but he rarely crosses, an indicator he's transitioned from number 10 to winger.
North Leeds Fox Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 We definitely need a winger this summer. Barnes, gray and albrighton are all good in their own ways but an x Factor winger that can just push the defence back and give youri(hopefully) and madders the time they need will be brilliant.
Stadt Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: A wingers primary role is to get crosses in and create chances. Albrighton top of the list in both these areas In the 90s yeah. Crossing is massively wasteful - how often do you see Sterling or Sane put a ball in the box? A modern wide player is there to create chances with cutbacks, through balls, crosses and score goals. I love Albrighton but him and Gray don’t contribute enough in a system with one up top
CosbehFox Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: I included Gray’s u21 games as food for thought: when he puts on the national colours he tackles more, shoots more, has a better pass accuracy, goals per minute ratio and provides double the key passes. What games are those of Gray's? The current under 21s tournament?
Foxxed Posted 27 June 2019 Author Posted 27 June 2019 5 minutes ago, Stadt said: In the 90s yeah. Crossing is massively wasteful - how often do you see Sterling or Sane put a ball in the box? A modern wide player is there to create chances with cutbacks, through balls, crosses and score goals. I love Albrighton but him and Gray don’t contribute enough in a system with one up top Only Ghezzal was on the list for that stat. Everyone else on that list is at 0.
CosbehFox Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 6 minutes ago, Stadt said: In the 90s yeah. Crossing is massively wasteful - For proof of this, have a look at how Ricardo crosses these days. There's some incredible stat about how most succeeding crosses are actually cut backs.
PhillippaT Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 6 minutes ago, MPH said: painful reading for Ghezzal... He looked better as a back-up number 10 tbh.
Foxxed Posted 27 June 2019 Author Posted 27 June 2019 Just now, Cardiff_Fox said: What games are those of Gray's? The current under 21s tournament? Seems like it https://www.whoscored.com/Players/136945/Show/Demarai-Gray
Ric Flair Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: A wingers primary role is to get crosses in and create chances. Albrighton top of the list in both these areas Prior to Rodgers arriving, crossing in to the box with only one player usually in there was a frustrating and fruitless task. It usually came about from slow and laborious football allowing the opposition to get numbers back in defence and in position and the crosses were nullified. It was interesting to see the number of goals we scored under Rodgers that were a direct result of a cross, it seemed to happen much more frequently than under Puel.
urban fox Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 25 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: For proof of this, have a look at how Ricardo crosses these days. There's some incredible stat about how most succeeding crosses are actually cut backs. A cross is not just a high ball pumped hopefully into the box. Any ball put into the danger area from a wide position would be counted as a cross surely whatever height it is delivered at. As you point out Ricardo has on at least two occasions provided tap in finish for Vardy by fizzing a fast ball low into the six yard box. This is still a cross and often more effective than a high ball floated in. If the ball is delivered with pace into this area, behind the defence but beyond the keeper, then it is just begging for an oncoming attacker to get a touch
StriderHiryu Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Harvey Barnes has very promising stats given he's so young and only broke into the team in the second half of the season. Every time he plays it feels like he is a dangerous forward thinking player and the stats go some way to back that up. He should have scored several more goals as well, which would have made his stats look better. He is the one I am the most confident in of our this set of players. The sad thing though is that if you combine ALL of the goals and assists from these players, it's less than Mahrez's stats from his last season with us. If we want top 7 or higher, these players need to kick on and contribute more to the team.
Samilktray Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Bombarding teams with crosses just seems a bit prehistoric now
Guest Posted 27 June 2019 Posted 27 June 2019 Stats - they show whatever you've already decided they'll show.
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