majaco Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 6 hours ago, jammie82uk said: Definition of pile on, informal : to join other people in criticizing something or someone in usually an unfair way example: After the first few negative reviews, all the other critics started piling on. Source?
jammie82uk Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 7 minutes ago, majaco said: Source? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pile on
FoxyLeon Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 21 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Albrighton will provide at least half a dozen assists a season though, but it's an absolutely scandalous situation to be in where its between those two for the right wing spot at a team who harbours top 6 year in, year out. I agree with the last part, neither are good enough on the right. I'll simply say though, that it's not Perez's natural position at all. I don't think Perez would offer more than Maddison has in the number 10 role (Although I'd argue Maddison looks just as poor right now), but I don't think Maddison would average 5 goals as season as our right winger either. Rodgers has so many options for the 3-5-2 he played last season, when we get a couple of defenders back. He needs to be more flexible with his team.
murphy Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Ayoze, twisting your jimmies for another year I think it is the realisation that the transfer window has closed and that the replacement that so many of us were pinning our hopes on has not materialised. I don't know what a Jimmy is but mine is twisted out of all recognition.
HighPeakFox Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 Some of you like complaining, and Perez gives you sufficient ammunition. It's that simple - all the rationalising is just excuses for twatting on, to my ears at least.
Finnegan Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Albrighton's output pissed all over Perez's last season and to be fair its one of the reasons Albrighton doesn't play as much for us in previous years. They played under much different circumstances. Albrighton typically played as a wing back or when we needed genuine width. If Rodgers is going to play what's probably our best formation, a 433 or 4231 with one of Castagne, JJ or Ricardo providing the pace and width down the right hand side then the role of the right sided attacker is to sit narrower, support Vardy, link up with the midfield and bring the wing back in to play. Absolutely none of that describes Albrighton's game. If we were to adopt a 442 or to play with a defensive right back then I'd have Albrighton out there providing width and defensive cover but otherwise Perez is the better of the two. Although that's really not saying a lot and I really hope the idea is to let Lookman and Barnes both have a crack at the first team. Edited 1 September 2021 by Finnegan
Ric Flair Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 51 minutes ago, FoxyLeon said: I agree with the last part, neither are good enough on the right. I'll simply say though, that it's not Perez's natural position at all. I don't think Perez would offer more than Maddison has in the number 10 role (Although I'd argue Maddison looks just as poor right now), but I don't think Maddison would average 5 goals as season as our right winger either. Rodgers has so many options for the 3-5-2 he played last season, when we get a couple of defenders back. He needs to be more flexible with his team. Perez played as a 10/ACM for the final third of last season and got 1 goal and 1 assist, diabolical. Even worse than when he plays on the wing. 2
Jazzy_Jeff Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 I seem to remember playing well in a two up top more than once. there’s a difference playing a deeper role in a two and playing in what is now called a traditional number 10 (where Maddison usually plays) he doesn’t have the pace to play wide or in the 10 but has good enough feet to join as a 2nd striker
Ric Flair Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: They played under much different circumstances. If Rodgers is going to play what's probably our best formation, a 433 or 4231 with one of Castagne, JJ or Ricardo providing the pace and width down the right hand side then the role of the right sided attacker is to sit narrower, support Vardy, link up with the midfield and bring the wing back in to play. Absolutely none of that describes Albrighton's game. If we were to adopt a 442 or to play with a defensive right back then I'd have Albrighton out there providing width and defensive cover but otherwise Perez is the better of the two. Although that's really not saying a lot and I really hope the idea is to let Lookman and Barnes both have a crack at the first team. Whatever the role is they play when wide right, neither of them score many goals. Albrighton will always provide more assists as he gets crosses and through balls in as much as possible, where as Perez likes to hold on to the ball and try little reverse cowboy passes with back spin that never work and the move breaks down. Rodgers bought Perez to bring the sorts of numbers he got at Newcastle in the 2018/19 season. There's been scant sign of that but he's actually becoming even worse in front of goal, and that's even when he's had a good run of games in his supposed best position. Maybe he will find a bit of form at some point, it would be welcome. However much stick I give him, if he starts delivering what he was brought in to do then he'll be respected significantly more. 2
SecretPro Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 1 hour ago, pmcla26 said: I’m not pretending though he is good enough to be part of our squad. Part of our squad, yes, probably. As our first choice right forward? Nah, not even close, sadly.
jmono84 Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 4 hours ago, Phil Bowman said: We don’t have to consider anyone as options. That’s the manager’s job. We can just relax and enjoy the match. Or not so much, sometimes. I tell myself this every week but I know I’m kidding myself thinking I won’t relax. We all know we’re actually better managers and just not had the lucky breaks the professionals get. Lucky breaks and qualifications, they’re quite handy too.
weller54 Posted 1 September 2021 Posted 1 September 2021 2 hours ago, Jazzy_Jeff said: I seem to remember playing well in a two up top more than once. there’s a difference playing a deeper role in a two and playing in what is now called a traditional number 10 (where Maddison usually plays) he doesn’t have the pace to play wide or in the 10 but has good enough feet to join as a 2nd striker Trouble is they're both left ones. 2
sdb Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 On 01/09/2021 at 19:22, Ric Flair said: What was his excuse when playing as an ACM/10 in the final third of last season in a 3-4-1-2 then? His creative and goalscoring output in his supposed favoured position was even worse than from the wing!!!! His team mates were woeful? I'm no Perez fan but he was one of our only decent performers in that shambolic period. 1 2
Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 1 minute ago, sdb said: His team mates were woeful? I'm no Perez fan but he was one of our only decent performers in that shambolic period. Is this a joke? 3
sdb Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: Is this a joke? Absolutely not. Feel free to give me a run down of good performers post lockdown in summer 2020. Almost everyone was honking and Perez wasn't.
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2021 Popular Post Posted 2 September 2021 20 minutes ago, sdb said: Absolutely not. Feel free to give me a run down of good performers post lockdown in summer 2020. Almost everyone was honking and Perez wasn't. I'm talking about the final 3rd of the 2020/21 season when Barnes and Maddison got injured and we moved to 3-4-1-2. Perez played a lot of those games in his supposed favoured position as the ACM/10 and he was muck. 1 goal and 1 assist in his favoured position is not good enough, if you seriously are going to blame other players for his lack of goals and assists then that's staggering. 6
sdb Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 57 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'm talking about the final 3rd of the 2020/21 season when Barnes and Maddison got injured and we moved to 3-4-1-2. Perez played a lot of those games in his supposed favoured position as the ACM/10 and he was muck. 1 goal and 1 assist in his favoured position is not good enough, if you seriously are going to blame other players for his lack of goals and assists then that's staggering. No I was talking about 19-20 season run in/sabotage #1. He was utter wank last season. 2
Foxxed Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 Why must this thread continue? Perez is not a winger. He's being played out of position. Brendan has some dogged tactical plan that involves Perez on the wing. This place is getting weird.
Ric Flair Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 6 minutes ago, sdb said: No I was talking about 19-20 season run in/sabotage #1. He was utter wank last season. Aaaah OK, yes I agree then 😂😂😂 1
weller54 Posted 2 September 2021 Posted 2 September 2021 2 hours ago, sdb said: His team mates were woeful? I'm no Perez fan but he was one of our only decent performers in that shambolic period. You ever thought of doing stand-up? 1
Popular Post dmayne7 Posted 2 September 2021 Popular Post Posted 2 September 2021 2 hours ago, Foxxed said: Why must this thread continue? Perez is not a winger. He's being played out of position. Brendan has some dogged tactical plan that involves Perez on the wing. This place is getting weird. But as Ric has pointed out above you, he's crap in his supposed preferred position. You'd say that his great strength is his defending from the front which looks great on paper, stats wise. But he has absolutely 0 tenacity and the solidity of a paper towel, so he can win the ball back but then he'll just lose it again. Wouldn't be so bad if he was a squad player designed to do the attacking equivalent of Amartey and cover several positions but when he's the first choice right sided forward and first back up for the 10 role, it's shocking. He's so far below the level we need and that's where the issue is. 6
Bptiger Posted 3 September 2021 Posted 3 September 2021 4 hours ago, dmayne7 said: But as Ric has pointed out above you, he's crap in his supposed preferred position. You'd say that his great strength is his defending from the front which looks great on paper, stats wise. But he has absolutely 0 tenacity and the solidity of a paper towel, so he can win the ball back but then he'll just lose it again. Wouldn't be so bad if he was a squad player designed to do the attacking equivalent of Amartey and cover several positions but when he's the first choice right sided forward and first back up for the 10 role, it's shocking. He's so far below the level we need and that's where the issue is. Can we stop talking about this loser, now that we got lookman, hope we never see him again
weller54 Posted 3 September 2021 Posted 3 September 2021 1 hour ago, SecretPro said: Can we end this thread? Why?
Popular Post jammie82uk Posted 3 September 2021 Popular Post Posted 3 September 2021 42 minutes ago, weller54 said: Why? What is the point in having it? It’s just post after post, page after page of people saying how crap they reckon he is, it’s the same regurgitation over and over again it’s not adding anything new to the forum by continuing this thread, I’m surprised the mods have actually let this continue so long considering they are quite quick to end other threads when they reach a dead end 6
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