Blue ROI Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 2 hours ago, MPH said: you forgetting the dive that got him sent off against westham 2-3 years ago? second yellow i think it was... i’ll try find it on youtube. EDIT: found it Vardy made the most of that for certain but twice we have been (Red)carded for diving at home. N'Didi v Palace in December 2017 was another IIRC. How many times has it happened to Arsenal, Liverpool,Spurs, or Man Utd. There's a reason clubs like us can feel aggrieved at the lack of consistency in all of this.
urban fox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 14 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: Can you imagine if players went down like this in sunday league? Must be so infuriating as a defender knowing that literally any contact and the players going down. I think people are being a bit petty going in on Mane here, there's not an attacker in the premier league that wouldnt be heading for the deck there. Foul or not, the games pretty much no contact these days Agree that it is not Marne that we should be angry with but the officials. As many have said, most attackers would go down in similar circumstances (last minute, massive home crowd, ref already shown that he is being swayed, contact felt). The refs, and VAR in particular should be able to sort out what is a genuine foul (and that should not mean any slight contact, but a genuine foul that impedes or prevents the player from playing, or keeping the ball under control). Mane has taken a chance and it has paid off. Had VAR decided that he has been guilty of simulation, then he would have been hauled before the FA and given an automatic ban as the ref has given it and therefore been deliberately deceived by simulation. We tend to be very polarised by these things and it always has to be a pen or a dive. There are plenty of instances where no genuine foul has been committed and neither has the player dived (although in this case Mane has gone to ground rather dramatically to ensure that the ref has to make a decision) yet it is vary rare that this seems to be recognised. I have no problem with two players going full tilt into a committed challenge, full contact but the outcome is a goal kick /corner etc. Refs seemed to be being pressurised into making a decision one way or the other these days when it is not always necessary.
MPH Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 2 hours ago, Bert said: That wasn’t a dive though? There’s more contact there than most penalties given. he ran into the defender then went down! so many blue tinted specs in here.
MPH Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: Oh well in that case it's all well and good that Mane dived on Saturday. cant say that in here! because people will say vardy didn’t make a meal of it either!
MPH Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 2 hours ago, ealingfox said: Have you been drinking? not touched a drop in about 20 years pal!! people start thinking vardy hasnt done anything similar when they do!
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 People need to stop taking decisions so personally, you'd think we were a David icke forum with the amount of conspiracy bollocks that gets spouted on here
ThaiFox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 7 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: People need to stop taking decisions so personally, you'd think we were a David icke forum with the amount of conspiracy bollocks that gets spouted on here What? Really? Our fans talking bo**ocks? I can't believe that for one second!
Guest Eamonn Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 On 05/10/2019 at 18:10, pedigreefox said: ****s sake... no good apologising. Should never be playing, can't run... can't tackle.... 15/16 has gone. One good cross now and again is not enough, wake up!! I'd pick him every week. He reads the game well, is the best crosser at the club and is a better combination with Ricardo or Chilwell than our other options.
HighPeakFox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 52 minutes ago, MPH said: people start thinking vardy hasnt done anything similar when they do! Similar - yes, agreed. As bad - not in my opinion. That was my point.
Bert Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 2 hours ago, MPH said: he ran into the defender then went down! so many blue tinted specs in here. His leg was sandwiched in between his legs you mean.
yorkie1999 Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 Obviously Mane was looking for any contact, or he wouldn't have exaggerated it by diving which brings it to the attention of the ref and then Mane knows it will be scrutinised by VAR which will not take into account the theatricals which the ref has bought. What this does though is open the door for a player to go down from any touch in the penalty box knowing that he'll probably get it because VAR will only look for contact. It really is cheating, and almost playing on the emotion of the ref and the accuracy of VAR.
MPH Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 12 minutes ago, Bert said: His leg was sandwiched in between his legs you mean. no i mean he was the one who moved into the player to initiate the contact to draw the supposed ‘ foul’ and then dived in a way that was totally disproportionate to the contact. But like Manè
RumbleFox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 If you ever read Foxestalk Marc then just know this.... You never, ever have to apologise to any of us for anything, ever. X
CosbehFox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 4 hours ago, Blue ROI said: Vardy made the most of that for certain but twice we have been (Red)carded for diving at home. N'Didi v Palace in December 2017 was another IIRC. How many times has it happened to Arsenal, Liverpool,Spurs, or Man Utd. There's a reason clubs like us can feel aggrieved at the lack of consistency in all of this. Add Maddison at brighton too
Blue ROI Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 7 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Add Maddison at brighton too To be expected more at an away game. Would love to know how many clubs playing at home have been affected.
turtmcfly Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 53 minutes ago, MPH said: no i mean he was the one who moved into the player to initiate the contact to draw the supposed ‘ foul’ and then dived in a way that was totally disproportionate to the contact. But like Manè Watch it again. Watch the defender's left hand pull at Vardy's shoulder. Then watch the defenders left thigh shove into him. Notice how both actions end up slightly twisting Vardy round, which then results in that defenders leg ends up between Vardy's. Then remember Vardy's going at not far off full tilt. Then watch none of these happening last Saturday. Then congratulate yourself on your avatar being so smashingly apposite.
Bert Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 49 minutes ago, MPH said: no i mean he was the one who moved into the player to initiate the contact to draw the supposed ‘ foul’ and then dived in a way that was totally disproportionate to the contact. But like Manè Lol He’s done really well to dive there with his leg trapped.
Hollyfox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 4 hours ago, Blue ROI said: Vardy made the most of that for certain but twice we have been (Red)carded for diving at home. N'Didi v Palace in December 2017 was another IIRC. How many times has it happened to Arsenal, Liverpool,Spurs, or Man Utd. There's a reason clubs like us can feel aggrieved at the lack of consistency in all of this. This totally 👍
Hollyfox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 The other thing is the theatrics Mane used. Vardy has gone over many times, but he's pretty much always just got straight up. Harry Kane after the Evans challenge was a superb example of just getting on with the game after a proper tackle (although he might have reacted differently in the penalty area) Although superb footballers, Salah and Mane are disgraceful cheats. They'll win the title though, so that'll be all that matters to the club.
Vulpine Victor Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 On 05/10/2019 at 18:10, pedigreefox said: ****s sake... no good apologising. Should never be playing, can't run... can't tackle.... 15/16 has gone. One good cross now and again is not enough, wake up!! This is one of the most ridiculous comments I have read. I can only assume that you have never played football or gone to many City matches in the last few years. Albrighton has been one of our most consistent players who always gives100%. Yes it would have been better if he had booted it into the stands but at least he got back to take the ball off Origi. Kasper was as much to blame for not claimed no the loose ball.
MPH Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 1 hour ago, Bert said: Lol He’s done really well to dive there with his leg trapped. oh Burt come on, you’re better than this. you can take a freeze frame photo from a video and come up with a really biased outcome like this. watch this video from about 30 seconds onwards. Vardy CLEARLY moves into the path of the defender and away from the ball and then proceeds with a farcical dive.
BenTheFox Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 Gonna be a sad day when Albrighton leaves. He's the honest club man that every good side needs and he seems to love it here too.
Bert Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 15 minutes ago, MPH said: oh Burt come on, you’re better than this. you can take a freeze frame photo from a video and come up with a really biased outcome like this. watch this video from about 30 seconds onwards. Vardy CLEARLY moves into the path of the defender and away from the ball and then proceeds with a farcical dive. He moves in front of him because that’s the way the ball is going then as a striker you sometimes have to move your body to create an angle to shoot. Also it’s Bert not Burt it’s right there in the post you quoted.
Cecchini1976 Posted 7 October 2019 Posted 7 October 2019 26 minutes ago, Vulpine Victor said: This is one of the most ridiculous comments I have read. I can only assume that you have never played football or gone to many City matches in the last few years. Albrighton has been one of our most consistent players who always gives100%. Yes it would have been better if he had booted it into the stands but at least he got back to take the ball off Origi. Kasper was as much to blame for not claimed no the loose ball. Albrighton is a good squad player, always gives his best, but it was all to do with him at anfield, I wish he didn’t take the ball of Origi, we would have got a point. Also wish when he did get the ball he didn’t knock it so far ahead of himself, also wish he never then dribbled it out of Schmeichel’s reach and didn’t give it to Mane. Also wish he just kicked it in to row z, but unfortunately he didn’t and we lost the game. Shit happens
Leeds Fox Posted 8 October 2019 Posted 8 October 2019 On 05/10/2019 at 18:17, MrsJohnMurphy said: 6 posts in 6 years and this is all the crap you can come up with Surely it’s difficult to be that stupid on a frequent basis. Cut him some slack, he clearly can’t help it.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.