HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 1 minute ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Puel is just doing his job, it is normal that clubs don't want to lose their best players. If a club comes in for one of our players and we don't want to sell, we reject the bid. If the said player wants to leave we drive a hard bargain to get the price up as high as possible. Puel is well known to be very stubborn, so hardly surprising if he's digging his heels in. I've not read every post but similar has probably already been said by others. That along with a boat load of hypocrisy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Football is basically a mercenaries game now. We all hate it when it's one of our players doing it (RE Drinkwater and Mahrez) but think it's fair game when a player is pushing to move. Sad that it's happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty98 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Not a fan of players running off to the press when they don't get there own way. Those discussions should remain between him and his club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 If we have bid 29m euros that surely ought to now do it, the press reported they'd set a £27m price tag which is pretty much 29m euros. There's no going back on that interview he has done, he's killed Puel there and you love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: If we have bid 29m euros that surely ought to now do it, the press reported they'd set a £27m price tag which is pretty much 29m euros. There's no going back on that interview he has done, he's killed Puel there and you love to see it. Some might, I don't think we all do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 10 hours ago, StanSP said: Okay, I'll say it. Well done to Lee Congerton getting this over the line... What happens if he turns out to be shite? Congerton haters will send this place into meltdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 11 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 11 September 2020 1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said: Some might, I don't think we all do. Puel's a twat 3 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: If we have bid 29m euros that surely ought to now do it, the press reported they'd set a £27m price tag which is pretty much 29m euros. There's no going back on that interview he has done, he's killed Puel there and you love to see it. Taking off partisan tabloid glasses, it was not a smart thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 11 September 2020 Just now, Ric Flair said: Puel's a twat Ok Ric. You've outwitted me there. 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 11 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 11 September 2020 (edited) https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/wesley-fofana-i-would-be-crazy-to-reject-leicester/ The L’Equipe article Wesley Fofana: “It would be crazy to reject Leicester.” Speaking in an exclusive interview with L’Équipe, 19-year-old French youth international central defender Wesley Fofana sought to explain why he has decided to accept a 5-year contract proposal from Leicester City, despite his current employer, St Étienne, currently not being willing to accept the Foxes’ €29m offer. Why have you taken yourself off of social media? To reflect. As soon as it was known that I was asking myself questions about my future, people were getting excited all on their own when I had said nothing. It was not like I was being rumoured to move to Lyon. Calling me a “mercenary” or “traitor” or “f*****” hurt me. But the St Étienne fans who insulted my mother and my little sister, that affects me a lot. I am disgusted. Some of them went even further than that. What do you mean? It is difficult to talk about it… my little sister was targeted at her school. They insulted her, they pushed her. She doesn’t know football and had to suffer that. It is unacceptable. I saw her cry… I spoke with her, then I took her to school. She was the victim of idiots and their behaviour has really impacted my decision. On your future? Yes. I received a lot of offers. It is normal to have them checked by my agents. They did not agree with me wanting to speak out (like this). But what has just happened stoked something in me. My decision is made: I am accepting an offer. Leicester’s? Yes. I have always dreamt of playing in England. And you are ready to leave in a flash of anger? This is not what this is. Already, last summer, I had thought about it. But as the club did not find an agreement with Salzburg, I stayed, focused 100% on Les Verts. This winter too. This time, I cannot refuse. Where I come from, the northern suburbs of Marseille and with a family that is not well off, it is not possible. I would be crazy to say no to Leicester. This contract could change my life. I need to protect my family by keeping them safe. The financial and sporting aspects have aligned, I am forced to say yes. Are you not taking a risk by moving abroad too soon? I am conscious of it. But I am determined and mentally ready to change my life. By offering this amount (€29m), Leicester prove that they really want me. It is not as if I wanted to leave for a club where the number of central defenders is immense. This is a real sporting project. Have you told St Étienne? I went to see the coach (Claude Puel) yesterday morning to tell him what had happened, that I was not in a good way, and that I want to leave. I tried, but I was not able to talk my problems through with him. No worries. I will sort it out on my own. I am used to that. As he was closed off to the discussion, we spoke about the sporting side, not my private life. What did he say? That I was 100% part of this project and that it was out of the question for me to leave during this window. Are you willing to go on strike to get this done No. St Étienne is my club. I hold them in my heart and I will respect them until the end. I owe the club that. But I am entering my sixth year, I am not a mercenary who signed for them yesterday. I rejected an offer abroad at the end of my youth contract and my agents fought for me to sign a professional deal here, when only Julien Sablé believed in me. I even extended my contract to protect the club’s interests. I have done kilometres by bus, I have won the Coupe Gambardella with my friends so I think I have the right to embrace the club’s colours but also to say: it’s my job and I want to do it elsewhere. I don’t want a clash and I don’t want this to go into crazy territory… In actual fact, I wouldn’t ask to leave if I thought that this was messing the club up. My wish is for everyone to be happy. And we all can be. Do you say that because Leicester are offering close to €30m? I am worth €30m! Crazy, no? That was the asking price that the club fixed after the Coupe de France final. When the money is there, you have to take it. It would be even crazier to say no. If I stay and don’t have a quality season, we will all have regrets. And it will be too late. Your value could continue to rise over the next year. Who can guarantee that I will be worth €40m or €50m? Who has been sold at such a price (in this market) when they haven’t played the Champions’ League or aren’t an international? Nobody. All the clubs are affected by the health crisis. On top of that, in one year, it will be almost impossible for me to go to England because of Brexit. Saliba is an example for me. William did very well to sign directly with Arsenal, last summer. When you consider the poor season that came after that move, he would not be worth the same amount today. The same thing could happen to me. So, please, properly consider this offer and put yourself in my position. Especially the coach. He will take the decision. He explained to me yesterday that he is not the coach, but the General Manager. If I have understood correctly, he is the boss. In that role, he needs to think about the club’s general interest and not just the interest of the coach, no? Do you think you can convince him to change his mind? He knows me very well and has put so much faith in my directly… In training on Wednesday, he saw that I was no longer really there, that I was thinking about being somewhere where I could see myself being better. I listen to him and I understand him. But he also needs to do the same. I hope that he will open up his heart and listen to me. Edited 11 September 2020 by moore_94 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 6 minutes ago, moore_94 said: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/wesley-fofana-i-would-be-crazy-to-reject-leicester/ The L’Equipe article Wesley Fofana: “It would be crazy to reject Leicester.” Speaking in an exclusive interview with L’Équipe, 19-year-old French youth international central defender Wesley Fofana sought to explain why he has decided to accept a 5-year contract proposal from Leicester City, despite his current employer, St Étienne, currently not being willing to accept the Foxes’ €29m offer. Why have you taken yourself off of social media? To reflect. As soon as it was known that I was asking myself questions about my future, people were getting excited all on their own when I had said nothing. It was not like I was being rumoured to move to Lyon. Calling me a “mercenary” or “traitor” or “f*****” hurt me. But the St Étienne fans who insulted my mother and my little sister, that affects me a lot. I am disgusted. Some of them went even further than that. What do you mean? It is difficult to talk about it… my little sister was targeted at her school. They insulted her, they pushed her. She doesn’t know football and had to suffer that. It is unacceptable. I saw her cry… I spoke with her, then I took her to school. She was the victim of idiots and their behaviour has really impacted my decision. On your future? Yes. I received a lot of offers. It is normal to have them checked by my agents. They did not agree with me wanting to speak out (like this). But what has just happened stoked something in me. My decision is made: I am accepting an offer. Leicester’s? Yes. I have always dreamt of playing in England. And you are ready to leave in a flash of anger? This is not what this is. Already, last summer, I had thought about it. But as the club did not find an agreement with Salzburg, I stayed, focused 100% on Les Verts. This winter too. This time, I cannot refuse. Where I come from, the northern suburbs of Marseille and with a family that is not well off, it is not possible. I would be crazy to say no to Leicester. This contract could change my life. I need to protect my family by keeping them safe. The financial and sporting aspects have aligned, I am forced to say yes. Are you not taking a risk by moving abroad too soon? I am conscious of it. But I am determined and mentally ready to change my life. By offering this amount (€29m), Leicester prove that they really want me. It is not as if I wanted to leave for a club where the number of central defenders is immense. This is a real sporting project. Have you told St Étienne? I went to see the coach (Claude Puel) yesterday morning to tell him what had happened, that I was not in a good way, and that I want to leave. I tried, but I was not able to talk my problems through with him. No worries. I will sort it out on my own. I am used to that. As he was closed off to the discussion, we spoke about the sporting side, not my private life. What did he say? That I was 100% part of this project and that it was out of the question for me to leave during this window. Are you willing to go on strike to get this done No. St Étienne is my club. I hold them in my heart and I will respect them until the end. I owe the club that. But I am entering my sixth year, I am not a mercenary who signed for them yesterday. I rejected an offer abroad at the end of my youth contract and my agents fought for me to sign a professional deal here, when only Julien Sablé believed in me. I even extended my contract to protect the club’s interests. I have done kilometres by bus, I have won the Coupe Gambardella with my friends so I think I have the right to embrace the club’s colours but also to say: it’s my job and I want to do it elsewhere. I don’t want a clash and I don’t want this to go into crazy territory… In actual fact, I wouldn’t ask to leave if I thought that this was messing the club up. My wish is for everyone to be happy. And we all can be. Do you say that because Leicester are offering close to €30m? I am worth €30m! Crazy, no? That was the asking price that the club fixed after the Coupe de France final. When the money is there, you have to take it. It would be even crazier to say no. If I stay and don’t have a quality season, we will all have regrets. And it will be too late. Your value could continue to rise over the next year. Who can guarantee that I will be worth €40m or €50m? Who has been sold at such a price (in this market) when they haven’t played the Champions’ League or aren’t an international? Nobody. All the clubs are affected by the health crisis. On top of that, in one year, it will be almost impossible for me to go to England because of Brexit. Saliba is an example for me. William did very well to sign directly with Arsenal, last summer. When you consider the poor season that came after that move, he would not be worth the same amount today. The same thing could happen to me. So, please, properly consider this offer and put yourself in my position. Especially the coach. He will take the decision. He explained to me yesterday that he is not the coach, but the General Manager. If I have understood correctly, he is the boss. In that role, he needs to think about the club’s general interest and not just the interest of the coach, no? Do you think you can convince him to change his mind? He knows me very well and has put so much faith in my directly… In training on Wednesday, he saw that I was no longer really there, that I was thinking about being somewhere where I could see myself being better. I listen to him and I understand him. But he also needs to do the same. I hope that he will open up his heart and listen to me. He may be pulling a Mahrez, but he seems like a decent bloke to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Taking off partisan tabloid glasses, it was not a smart thing to do He's a 19 year old kid who its dawned upon has potentially got to spend another year with Claude Puel and he's let his immaturity get the better of him. I can forgive him, if he does the same in 2 years to get a move to Man City then the fee best be 100m snifters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 He actually comes across fairly well in that interview. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Oh maybe Puel was playing hardball then but I guess that's because he's so highly rated. Like what we did with Mahrez. Proper shit his family gets targeted though because of a decision he wants to make for his career. Shouldn't be like that. Clearly sees a move to the Premier League (and us) as a huge opportunity he can't miss out on. And it's not like he's leaving cos he hates the club. He's leaving for the benefit of his own career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Just now, Ric Flair said: He's a 19 year old kid who its dawned upon has potentially got to spend another year with Claude Puel and he's let his immaturity get the better of him. I can forgive him, if he does the same in 2 years to get a move to Man City then the fee best be 100m snifters. That would be enough to push anyone over the edge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 ROFL, nothing says "winner" like not being able to let go of a grudge against a guy two years after he was let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw_leics772 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said: This place has sadly become an utter shit show for the blinkered and bias unfortunately. Most of which have little understanding of how the game works or what it has become. Full of bile for anyone who behaves in a manner that disrespects their club, which would be fine if it wasn’t fully condoned when the shoes on the other foot in the exact same situation. That goes for players actions, referrer decisions, fa rulings, the works. Its not just this thread it’s everywhere, sadly why I frequent this place far less than I used too. A totally fair assessment, and intellectually speaking, it is difficult to argue with... However, I like the tribal nature of my relationship with football, and will therefore accept these inconsistencies and enjoy it for what it is. A player who wants to join us. Bring it on, right winger and striker and this could be the best window in living memory! Edited 11 September 2020 by gw_leics772 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Puel's a twat You'll be hard pressed to find anyone agreeing with that statement on Foxestalk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Just now, gw_leics772 said: A totally fair assessment, and intellectually speaking, it it difficult to argue with... However, I like the tribal nature of my relationship with football, and will therefore accept these inconsistencies and enjoy it for what it is. A player who wants to join us. Bring it on, right winger and striker and this could be the best widow in living memory! Also fair. It pisses me off that words like 'sanctimonious' get chucked at people when they simply call something right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Proper shit his family gets targeted though because of a decision he wants to make for his career. Shouldn't be like that. That's the worst bit of it all. His younger sister being bullied and targeted due to his decision to leave. That really isn't right and probably makes more sense for him to want to leave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 1 minute ago, SecretPro said: He may be pulling a Mahrez, but he seems like a decent bloke to me. I mean the fact that his sister is being abused at school just for the mention of a transfer I can hardly blame him for wanting to move! It is a lot less extreme than what Mahrez did, Fofana has at least said if the move doesn’t happen he isn’t going to go on strike etc. to make the situation even worse He just see’s the personal and career benefits to a move like this, nothing really “mercenary” about it as some people seem to think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 Puel won't like coming out publicly saying he's not for sale one day (knowing he is) and then the next day is battered by the board and bought into line. There must be a lot of friction at the club over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 I don't think he's (necessarily) being a mercenary - I'm just not sure that giving this (admittedly honest and articulate) interview was the best idea right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy85 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 This transfer should be straight forward now. Probably just add on needs resolving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw_leics772 Posted 11 September 2020 Share Posted 11 September 2020 48 minutes ago, wokinghamfox said: Singing it in my head. This just has to be the chant. Love it!!😁 Nahh, not a patch on Fofana, you no say daddy me Snow me I'll go blame A licky boom, boom down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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