urban.spaceman Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 2 hours ago, Finnaldo said: Nah I don’t agree with threats or the Sun headline. I meant more in terms of ‘cancelling’, as she’s pushed that agenda for a long time in, at least I believe, bad faith. I’ve seen nothing other than being called out for being transphobic, to that extent she’s dug that grave for herself. I suspect we are not going to agreed that the number of children being medically assisted or the loss of woman only spaces based on self Id is worrying then. I think that I am in a decent majority who find these areas which need consideration.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Just now, urban.spaceman said: Hahahaha far right. What a twat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Having Tommy Robinson and chums turn up counts as far right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 3 hours ago, StanSP said: .The full video for anyone interested. Couple of laughs but otherwise a very serious video. Impossible not to listen when he speaks, worth 27 minutes of anyone's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: I suspect we are not going to agreed that the number of children being medically assisted or the loss of woman only spaces based on self Id is worrying then. I think that I am in a decent majority who find these areas which need consideration.. To be honest, I wouldn’t exactly expect you to, I’ve seen you express those views before. Quite frankly even if I don’t agree with it, I don’t think that makes you evil or worth abuse. I might question it and debate the point but I never, and never will, participate in ‘cancelling’ someone. The issue is, Rowling very much fed those who do for years, seemingly making up any old shite to appeal to her audience and revising her own books to fit that narrative. When you indulge in that behaviour, and attract the sharks, you shouldn’t be surprised by their actions when they smell blood. It’s a disgusting way to act, and online anonymity and social media grandstanding has a hand in that, but as Finnegan said, she’s been around it long enough to be aware of that. Edited 12 June 2020 by Finnaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 7 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Having Tommy Robinson and chums turn up counts as far right. Likewise far left and chums turning up for the other side though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 57 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: I do like Piper. Comes across really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 4 minutes ago, bovril said: I do like Piper. Comes across really well. I think he prefers the name 'Pipeseh' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 21 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: I suspect we are not going to agreed that the number of children being medically assisted or the loss of woman only spaces based on self Id is worrying then. I think that I am in a decent majority who find these areas which need consideration.. That's true - problems that are, with respect, largely fictional can sometimes worry. The ending of Game of Thrones properly annoyed me, that's for damn sure. 21 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Hahahaha far right. What a twat. Are there not far-right groups going to be joining the party, then? I'd be interested in knowing what the correct description of them is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Looking at the economic forecast I really worry about what's to come in this country. Lots of pissed off unemployed young men convinced the other race hates them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 4 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Likewise far left and chums turning up for the other side though... The difference is that Far Right terrorism is fast becoming one of the more prominent forms of terrorism in the UK, with plots generally including nass stabbings and shootings whereas left wing terrorism, if you want to call it that, seems to amount to a slaver statue being taken down (which even the Mayor of Bristol said was no great loss) and a couple of berks defacing a Churchill statue (badly) and acting up at a protest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 1 minute ago, bovril said: Looking at the economic forecast I really worry about what's to come in this country. Lots of pissed off unemployed young men convinced the other race hates them. Oh yeah. Pandemic and riots have really opened up a vulnerability in this country. The worrying part is how this is exploited - it could go either way really. My gut feeling is that we've been far to a capitalist society over the last 40 years or so and a swing to the left a bit might be brilliant for the quality of life. Too far socialist and it becomes a hellscape. Fine margins will decide the future of this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: The difference is that Far Right terrorism is fast becoming one of the more prominent forms of terrorism in the UK, with plots generally including nass stabbings and shootings whereas left wing terrorism, if you want to call it that, seems to amount to a slaver statue being taken down (which even the Mayor of Bristol said was no great loss) and a couple of berks defacing a Churchill statue (badly) and acting up at a protest. I'm not gonna disagree, just saying that there's far left and far right on both sides turning up (or meant to be) tomorrow) Yet the Mayor only referrred to one of those in his statement, when both are going to spile hated and ruin the original cause. Edited 12 June 2020 by Leicester_Loyal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthStandUpperTier Posted 12 June 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 12 June 2020 1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said: If anyone can preach tolerance and respect for his fellow human beings it's surely the guy that has to work alongside Ian Stringer. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Just now, foxile5 said: Oh yeah. Pandemic and riots have really opened up a vulnerability in this country. The worrying part is how this is exploited - it could go either way really. My gut feeling is that we've been far to a capitalist society over the last 40 years or so and a swing to the left a bit might be brilliant for the quality of life. Too far socialist and it becomes a hellscape. Fine margins will decide the future of this country. Usually things swing from one extreme to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: I'm not gonna disagree, just saying that there's far left and far right on both sides turning up (or meant to be) tomorrow) Yet the Mayor only referrred to one of those in his statement. Fair enough. I’m glad that BLM were sensible about where to march. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said: If anyone can preach tolerance and respect for his fellow human beings it's surely the guy that has to work alongside Ian Stringer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 1 minute ago, Finnaldo said: The difference is that Far Right terrorism is fast becoming one of the more prominent forms of terrorism in the UK, with plots generally including nass stabbings and shootings whereas left wing terrorism, if you want to call it that, seems to amount to a slaver statue being taken down (which even the Mayor of Bristol said was no great loss) and a couple of berks defacing a Churchill statue (badly) and acting up at a protest. Ennit. There really is a false equivalence drawn between the dangers posed by the two. In this country far-left thugs are embarrassing, far-right thugs are genuinely dangerous. 1 minute ago, Leicester_Loyal said: I'm not gonna disagree, just saying that there's far left and far right on both sides turning up (or meant to be) tomorrow) Yet the Mayor only referrred to one of those in his statement. I would imagine that's because he will have assumed his message to BLM protesters goes out to them too, given they will claim to be acting like twats in aid of that cause. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 7 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: I'm not gonna disagree, just saying that there's far left and far right on both sides turning up (or meant to be) tomorrow) Yet the Mayor only referrred to one of those in his statement, when both are going to spile hated and ruin the original cause. ....the original cause being systemic problems with the way police deal with black people in various parts of the US? I mean, your standard tankie is as daft as the right-wing guys they rail against and that could well damage the cause but I'm not sure how many coppers Stateside hold left-wing views and stay in the job (or are part of the problem) for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 18 minutes ago, bovril said: Looking at the economic forecast I really worry about what's to come in this country. Lots of pissed off unemployed young men convinced the other race hates them. That's my concern too. And it's not just race, it's gender. I've been very worried for a long time about the effect of terms like straight white male privilege etc could have on vulnerable people. All it does is create more resentment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 29 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: The difference is that Far Right terrorism is fast becoming one of the more prominent forms of terrorism in the UK, with plots generally including nass stabbings and shootings whereas left wing terrorism, if you want to call it that, seems to amount to a slaver statue being taken down (which even the Mayor of Bristol said was no great loss) and a couple of berks defacing a Churchill statue (badly) and acting up at a protest. Are we ignoring the 60 odd injured police officers? I will call out the far right twats when they cause touble, but the complete absence of comment from Khan on the violence which has already happened from the left, in favour of warning the far right not to join in is ****ing bullshit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 35 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Likewise far left and chums turning up for the other side though... Totally agree. As I posted elsewhere on this thread, all we are seeing is a repeat of the 80s, 90s and the more recent EDL marches. It’s just another vehicle for it. Same people turning up just under a new name but still fighting the same fight between themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 (edited) Just now, Jon the Hat said: Are we ignoring the 60 odd injured police officers? I will call out the far right twats when they cause touble, but the complete absence of comment from Khan on the violence which has already happened from the left, in favour of warning the far right not to join in is ****ing bullshit. Yes a far right twat killed a PM in 2016. Same ‘clubs’, same groups marching down on London tomorrow Edited 12 June 2020 by Cardiff_Fox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 12 June 2020 Share Posted 12 June 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: That's my concern too. And it's not just race, it's gender. I've been very worried for a long time about the effect of terms like straight white male privilege etc could have on vulnerable people. All it does is create more resentment. As a counterargument, before all of this change began that caused this resentment, practically all women were "vulnerable" and had been for pretty much the entirety of history from when agriculture became a thing and mankind could settle in one place and become paternalisitic. Edited 12 June 2020 by leicsmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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