Coronavirus Thread

[Nod.E]

Just now, Corky said:

Does anyone expect normality, as it was before, again? I just want to safely meet up with people and socialise again. If I have to wear a mask then so be it.

 

I think people will put up with smaller restrictions or practices if it enables bigger things.

I think for the first year of 'normality' you'll get some uncertainty and mask wearing and over time it'll get back to normal as we knew it.

[bovril]

Just now, Corky said:

Does anyone expect normality, as it was before, again? I just want to safely meet up with people and socialise again. If I have to wear a mask then so be it.

 

I think people will put up with smaller restrictions or practices if it enables bigger things.

Maybe in ten years. The first thing I think of now when I see old photos is everyone being close together. It's almost instinctive now. I think it'll take a long time for that impulse to wear off. 

[Nod.E]

Just now, bovril said:

Maybe in ten years. The first thing I think of now when I see old photos is everyone being close together. It's almost instinctive now. I think it'll take a long time for that impulse to wear off. 

Disagree. I've seen plenty of Instagram stories of people close together recently, and that's in tier 4!

[bovril]

Just now, Nod.E said:

Disagree. I've seen plenty of Instagram stories of people close together recently, and that's in tier 4!

There have been a few studies showing that people socially distance less with people they know. I certainly do. But in terms of walking down streets, getting parcels at the front door, basically coming into contact with people you don't know, I think it'll take a long time for people to get back to pre-social distancing days.

[StanSP]

30 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I don't  mind temporarily wearing it in a shop. It's a sign of manners. I don't for one minute feel it has any obvious health benefit. Just a temporary social requirement.

 

The minute you don't have to wear one, I'll ditch it. I think you'd have to be doollally to want to wear one when unnecessary. 

Of course, I won't wear it constantly. Just if I feel it's needed from personal choice and it's appropriate. 

 

I think the health benefit would be not passing on any germs at all to anyone... 

[Nod.E]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

There have been a few studies showing that people socially distance less with people they know. I certainly do. But in terms of walking down streets, getting parcels at the front door, basically coming into contact with people you don't know, I think it'll take a long time for people to get back to pre-social distancing days.

Meh. Personally I've never shagged the delivery driver on arrival anyway. Barely a dent on normality that is it?

 

Night clubs will heave, surely. People are gagging for normality.

[Col city fan]

Just listened to Keir Starmer (is that how you spell his name) and I must confess he made a lot of sense. People stay in and the govt vaccinate people over the next month.

Simple message. Though harder to achieve 

[Col city fan]

8 minutes ago, bovril said:

There have been a few studies showing that people socially distance less with people they know. I certainly do. But in terms of walking down streets, getting parcels at the front door, basically coming into contact with people you don't know, I think it'll take a long time for people to get back to pre-social distancing days.

Disagree

Give it three months and people will be back to their normal habits. It’ll slowly creep back

[bovril]

3 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

Meh. Personally I've never shagged the delivery driver on arrival anyway. Barely a dent on normality that is it?

 

Night clubs will heave, surely. People are gagging for normality.

 

Just now, Col city fan said:

Disagree

Give it three months and people will be back to their normal habits. It’ll slowly creep back

Fair enough. I live in East Anglia where people rarely come within two metres of each other anyway. 

[oxford blue]

18 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

 

I am basically totally reliant on football now for any natural.highs, which tbh, i find a bit troubling 

Yes, but watching football played in empty stadiums sat at home via tv is just not the same compared to when crowds are there. The emotion is missing - watching tributes of Gerry Marsden with Liverpool supporters singing You'll Never Walk Alone, emphasised that point to me. Any sporting event is better when there are spectators, and unfortunately, it seems a distant memory for UK events.

[Guest ttfn]

39 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I can't believe people would be happy to walk around in a mask all the time in the future, you're having a laugh.

Amazing that it has come to this.

[bmt]

Sorry if it's been discussed already but just saw that a report has stated the November lockdown was ineffective due to it being leaked early. Journalists need to be held to account for the people who die due to them wanting to be the first to run a story. They should be working in the public interest, not against it.

 

(Not aimed at all journalists obviously)

[Rain King]

21 minutes ago, bovril said:

Maybe in ten years. The first thing I think of now when I see old photos is everyone being close together. It's almost instinctive now. I think it'll take a long time for that impulse to wear off. 

 

I just watched an old episode of House of Games on Dave, first thought when I saw it was how strange it looked them all sitting so close. Was bizarre.

[Gordon the Great]

44 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I can't believe people would be happy to walk around in a mask all the time in the future, you're having a laugh.

You`ll do as you`re told Kemosabe!

[bovril]

I think another reason we are unlikely we'll see total normality again is because of how people are counting every death from covid. We could have a full crowd in a stadium in August, see 10 deaths 2 weeks later in the same area and people will be putting pressure on the government to close stadiums again. 

[ealingfox]

45 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Do you really think that would have happened? Every home in England having internet access, even those remote single farms in mountainous areas?

It was just a weak attempt at a vote catcher

 

 Eh? This isn't Alaska or the Outback. Of course it could have happened. Mountainous areas ffs.

[Matt]

30 minutes ago, bmt said:

Sorry if it's been discussed already but just saw that a report has stated the November lockdown was ineffective due to it being leaked early. Journalists need to be held to account for the people who die due to them wanting to be the first to run a story. They should be working in the public interest, not against it.

 

(Not aimed at all journalists obviously)

I don't see what being leaked early has to with it be ineffective.

 

It was ineffective because it wasn't a lockdown, even more so than the current one we're apparently in.

 

This is why we'll not have made much progress, impact or change within the next month and this one will also be largely ineffective, albeit slightly more effective than in November as this one is slightly (only just) more strict.

 

Seems it's all a blame game though, but we've all got our part to play, we've all gotta take a certain responsibility.

 

Unfortunately for that happen and because certain members of public and society can't be trusted a strict lockdown is whats needed or lets not bother at all, neither of which this is and November certainly wasn't.

 

Edited 5 January 2021 by Matt

[Guest Harrydc]

Does someone mind explaining to me why we will need restrictions next winter? 

 

 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

1 minute ago, Harrydc said:

Does someone mind explaining to me why we will need restrictions next winter? 

 

 

That infuriated me. I think whitty said their may need to be restrictions next winter and then a dick of a journo asked what they would be 😡 I mean come on, let’s get through this winter first and then spring summer and autumn. 
The media have been appalling though the whole thing.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

49 minutes ago, Corky said:

Does anyone expect normality, as it was before, again?

Why shouldn't we? I'm sorry but going down the pub and the footy, and not having to wear a sodding mask everywhere are not unreasonable expectations.

[Facecloth]

34 minutes ago, bovril said:

 

Fair enough. I live in East Anglia where people rarely come within two metres of each other anyway. 

Isn't everyone related there anyway?

[yorkie1999]

2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Eleven months into a global pandemic. 

We’re being held hostage by absolute useless cvnts. 

Not really, I think this should have been done from the start.

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Harrydc said:

Does someone mind explaining to me why we will need restrictions next winter? 

 

 

So if all goes well and we get everybody who needs vaccinating vaccinated then we won’t need restrictions.
 

However things aren’t that smooth. Not everyone will get a vaccine for various reasons (probably only 70%) which means it’ll always be in circulation. People in rare instances still get infected despite being previously infected or vaccinated. Therefore there will be some sort of outbreak at some stage, most likely next winter. This does not mean we will end up in complete lockdown, however they may ask people to wear masks in certain places as well as other smaller measures. 
 

Please do not worry. 

[Lionator]

Read a study today which seems to indicate that the South African variant won’t be a problem for the current vaccines. Which is reassuring.

[Unabomber]

@Matt do you think we are currently in a lockdown?