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56 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Agree with this.

 

Yesterday morning did not feel like a lockdown when out driving and I doubt this morning will either.

 

Whole place was a ghost town back in March for about 3 weeks.

The lockdown started today that's probably why, I was working in the first one and we was pretty much the only people on the road, should be the same this time

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I had to drive on M5 and M6 yesterday and they were notably quiet. Not talking March lockdown levels but about as good as you are going to get with a functioning economy. 
 

It’s worth noting as well cars will be on the roads a lot more simply with the time of year. Whereas a ten minute walk to get four days worth of food shopping is doable in May or June, I wouldn’t want to repeat the experience in a 0.5 degrees and snow I can see from my window here.
 

The situational quandaries also at play where due to childcare, parents are going to have take child to an essential trip 
 

Equally though test centre near me had cars queuing out of it for the first time 

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9 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Until about a month ago I was George or John but with a much longer beard.

lol

 

You mean you've gone from this..

 

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To this?...

 

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Not by design or intent, but arrived at the early 69 look minus the wire rimmed bins....

 

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1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

The lockdown started today that's probably why, I was working in the first one and we was pretty much the only people on the road, should be the same this time

Work places are technically Covid secure now so if there is demand anyone who can’t wfh will be in.So nothing like last March.That’s millions still mixing.I can sympathise with Matts frustration.Especially as the November lockdown was anything but.This time the kids are off and there’s no Xmas shopping to do so it might be a bit more effective.

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16 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Nobody is even wearing masks in the office blocks and training centres I'm working in today. 

Big national corporations too. :(

this is it you can go to work and mix with people you just can't socialise with friends or family or go out an enjoy yourself. no logic in that apart from to depress people.

 

surely its one or the other.

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14 hours ago, Matt said:

I don't see what being leaked early has to with it be ineffective.

 

It was ineffective because it wasn't a lockdown, even more so than the current one we're apparently in.

 

This is why we'll not have made much progress, impact or change within the next month and this one will also be largely ineffective, albeit slightly more effective than in November as this one is slightly (only just) more strict.

 

Seems it's all a blame game though, but we've all got our part to play, we've all gotta take a certain responsibility.

 

Unfortunately for that happen and because certain members of public and society can't be trusted a strict lockdown is whats needed or lets not bother at all, neither of which this is and November certainly wasn't.

 

Because people went out on the lash or to see family etc before it was stopped again. Its not me saying it but a report. Will dig it out.

 

I completely agree that lockdown effectiveness is low due to the lockdown not being strict and people ignoring, but some people (more than  I realised) blindly follow the law simply because is is the law and the law said you could do things now that you couldn't do from a few days later, so that's what people did.

 

There should be individual responsibility but journos and the government have got to take some heightened responsibility knowing their actions impact on others. They know people behave a certain way and can protect people better. It's not mutually exclusive.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

this is it you can go to work and mix with people you just can't socialise with friends or family or go out an enjoy yourself. no logic in that apart from to depress people.

 

surely its one or the other.

Most places I've worked at in and around the country have had very sensible policies to be fair.

This is the first I've come across that does not seem to bother at all. Its skeleton staff, so i assume they must have a fair few working from home but there are still close contacts without masks that I have witnessed.

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50 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Work places are technically Covid secure now so if there is demand anyone who can’t wfh will be in.So nothing like last March.That’s millions still mixing.I can sympathise with Matts frustration.Especially as the November lockdown was anything but.This time the kids are off and there’s no Xmas shopping to do so it might be a bit more effective.

There’s a huge emphasis on employers right now. For some reason I don’t think Govt will target them. It’s a bit of a cycle. 

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Thought we'd originally got away with nurseries still being open but looks as though they are taking the decisions themselves to only open to key worker children from next Monday. 

 

My wife is a key worker, and continues to work. I'm not a key worker, but work for local council and continue to work from home sitting at my computer all day. from those that know, do I have grounds to send mine in even though I'm at home?

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6 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Thought we'd originally got away with nurseries still being open but looks as though they are taking the decisions themselves to only open to key worker children from next Monday. 

 

My wife is a key worker, and continues to work. I'm not a key worker, but work for local council and continue to work from home sitting at my computer all day. from those that know, do I have grounds to send mine in even though I'm at home?

Afraid not

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20 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Thought we'd originally got away with nurseries still being open but looks as though they are taking the decisions themselves to only open to key worker children from next Monday. 

 

My wife is a key worker, and continues to work. I'm not a key worker, but work for local council and continue to work from home sitting at my computer all day. from those that know, do I have grounds to send mine in even though I'm at home?

Based only on my experience of this it seems to depend on the school. My colleagues and I are all key workers and all wfh, some people have been able to send their children in with no issues, while others have been told the school won't take the children if the parents are wfh.

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https://www.tes.com/news/exclusive-coronavirus-schools-teacher-covid-rates-333-above-average?amp=&__twitter_impression=true

 

Short version - research by unions in conjunction with data from Leeds, Birmingham and Greenwich has found that school staff (specifically, teachers) are averaging 3 times more Covid rates than local authority figures. Things to note - 

 

- data from only 3 councils
- data was conducted over autumn term (dates between 19th October and 20th November)

 

I would like to see this replicated over a few more councils but a north, a midlands and a south - all of which are pretty big council areas. Of course, the majority of them didn't provide data. 

 

The three councils were the only ones to provide school staff Covid prevalence rates out of 28 approached by the union. 

 

 

 

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I'm starting wfh next week for 4 out the 5 days. Theres 5 of us in the team, and we all have our designated day to come in so I won't be see any of them for a while. 

 

Its the first time I'll have wfh during the whole thing, and first since joining aldi in September. Bonuses are saving on petrol and travelling time, having more time to exercise etc. Cons are I live alone, and in the middle of a pandemic when everything is shut, I'm not a fan of being home all day alone and then at night alone too. I'm bubbling with my mums house, so at least I can go there a couple of times a week. Wouldn't be so bad if I could go out after work.

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4 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

The lockdown started today that's probably why, I was working in the first one and we was pretty much the only people on the road, should be the same this time

True but I didn’t work for almost 5 months during the first lockdown but unaffected this time. Doesn’t seem as harsh on work this time so your going to get more traffic

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21 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I'm starting wfh next week for 4 out the 5 days. Theres 5 of us in the team, and we all have our designated day to come in so I won't be see any of them for a while. 

 

Its the first time I'll have wfh during the whole thing, and first since joining aldi in September. Bonuses are saving on petrol and travelling time, having more time to exercise etc. Cons are I live alone, and in the middle of a pandemic when everything is shut, I'm not a fan of being home all day alone and then at night alone too. I'm bubbling with my mums house, so at least I can go there a couple of times a week. Wouldn't be so bad if I could go out after work.

From someone who's been WFH for best part of 3-4 years, I can't stress how important it is to get up from your desk/working area every hour or so, if possible. Especially living alone, moving about and keeping active is something I've made sure I make a habit out of. And getting out and about for fresh air even if just for 20-30 minutes. 

 

It'll take a while to adjust to working from home and it's good you get 1 day out in the office (despite not seeing any of your team). It's not easy to adapt but you can make it easier by doing small things often. Eventually, due to less travel/commute time you'll find yourself possibly more productive and using your time better.

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3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

It’s worth noting as well cars will be on the roads a lot more simply with the time of year. Whereas a ten minute walk to get four days worth of food shopping is doable in May or June, I wouldn’t want to repeat the experience in a 0.5 degrees and snow I can see from my window here.

You can't do a 10 minute walk in 0.5 degrees?

 

No wonder the government are bringing in road closures around the country to cut back on the numbers driving.

 

 

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