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Adam Ounas

By Ian Nacho, in Transfer Talk

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foxpleasure

foxpleasure

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25 minutes ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Torn on this one. Smacks of cheaper option of plugging the wing problem. Yet the more we spend, we seem to get wrong....

 

Judging a book before you've even seen the cover!

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StriderHiryu

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This signing would be somewhat of a gamble but could be a really good player. He’s got flair and a dose of maverick to his play which we’ve lacked since Mahrez left. 
 

If the price is decent then he’d be a good option. I think we are desperate for a highly skilled right forward to take us to the next level. But if we aren’t able to sign a ready made one (spoiler - we won’t) then you’ve got to gamble on someone. This guy has unpredictability to his game (the good kind not the Gray kind) and we need someone like that in the squad. As @Ric Flair says something like 15m could be worth a punt. 

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danfox76

danfox76

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1 hour ago, murphy said:

That's what we paid.  Not what they were worth.

 

For instance, Mahrez and Drinky sold for £100m between them.  Kante sold for £32m but only because of his release clause and God knows what JV would have been worth then,

My point still stands as they wasn't worth that at the start of the season when we were odds on for relegation. 

 

NasPb

NasPb

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44 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

If he was any good they wouldn't be selling him

DOES NOT FIT NAPOLIS SYSTEM. DONT PLAY WITH WINGERS

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Superpants82

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Adam Ounas was on target as OGC Nice snatched a 1-1 draw against his first Ligue 1 Conforama club Girondins de Bordeaux on Sunday, but what else is there to know about the Napoli-owned winger?

1) Bordeaux vintage?

 

Ounas was born in Chambray-lès-Tours - the same commune in central France as Manchester United and France legend Mikaël Silvestre - and first joined the youth academy of local club Tours FC at the age of four, encouraged by his Algeria-born goalkeeping father, Hadji.

 

A promising attacking talent - years spent aiming shots at Ounas Sr. helped see to that - his career was nearly derailed when he was released seven years later with his immature teenaged behaviour not deemed appropriate by the Indre-et-Loire club.

 

He was spotted by Bordeaux recruiters Yannick Stopyra and Arnaud Vaillant in a match organised for young players released by youth academies at the age of 16, though, and was offered a path back into the game.

 

2) Aging like wine

 

Ounas wasted little time in putting those youthful mis-steps behind him, with then-Bordeaux coach Willy Sagnol saying: "Ounas is a nice product from the training centre. His attitude and behaviour have been spoken about a lot but since he's been with us he's been flawless. He has the potential to go far but we must protect him."

 

That was in 2015 after two seasons with Bordeaux's reserves, during which time Ounas honed his craft playing alongside future senior teammates Enzo Crivelli and Valentin Vada. Three goals in two years with Bordeaux B became eight goals in the following two campaigns with the first team, with four assists thrown in for good measure, as Ounas took the step up in competition in his stride.

 

Serie A giants Napoli had seen enough and made a move for the then 20-year-old in 2017, fending off reported interest from Manchester United to secure the winger's services.

 

Watch: Ounas's goal for Nice against former employers Bordeaux

 
3) The Italian job, With fierce competition from the likes of Dries Mertens, José Callejon and Lorenzo Insigne in the Napoli attack, Ounas was restricted to seven league appearances, each of them from the bench, in his maiden season in Italy, but he showed flashes of what he was capable of, scoring against RB Leipzig in the UEFA Europa League. The following campaign - his last before returning to France with Nice on loan - saw Ounas pick up more Serie A minutes under Maurizio Sarri and then Carlo Ancelotti, and he scored goals in clean sheet wins for I Partenopei over Sassuolo, Frosinone and Parma, helping his side to a second-place finish. Ounas has a contract with Napoli which runs until 2022. With teammates like former FC Metz stalwart Kalidou Koulibaly - now regarded as one of the game's best centre-backs - describing the winger as a "genius," Patrick Vieira pulled off quite the coup in persuading Ounas that he should spend at least the 2019/20 campaign on loan with the Côte d'Azur club, and it has so far proved productive for club and player.Ounas's goal against first employers Bordeaux took him to three for the current Ligue 1 Conforama campaign. Throw in his three assists and the creative left-footer has had a direct hand in a goal every 210 minutes he has played, playing the pass before the pass many more times in between.

 

Riyad Mahrez, Manchester City 

 

4) International allegiance

 

The French national team is littered with players past and present who could also have turned out for Algeria, from Zinedine Zidane through Karim Benzema and Nabil Fekir to even Kylian Mbappé, whose mother hails from the former French colony.

 

Ounas always planned on turning out for Algeria, though, despite featuring for France's under-20s in the 2015/16 season, scoring once in his two games with Les Espoirs.

 

"You know, when your parents are born in Algeria and you're born in France, the choice is often complicated for some," Ounas explained. "But for me, my choice was already made, even when I was in the French youth age group. I always had the idea to play for Algeria. It was a choice of the heart. You can't think about it too much."

 

Three goals in nine international outings alongside his idol Riyad Mahrez - the Manchester City winger who made the same decision in 2014 - and it would appear that Ounas is on the fast-track to being proved right.

 

5) Already a champion

 

Ounas's first senior international cap for Algeria came in September 2017, two months after his move to Napoli, in a 1-0 home loss to Zambia in qualifying for the 2020 FIFA World Cup in Russia. Les Fennecs were ultimately unsuccessful in making it to what would have been a fifth Finals tournament, but they made up for it and then some at the Africa Cup of Nations in Egypt last summer.

 

Ounas matched Mahrez as the competition's second top scorer - behind only Nigeria's Odion Ighalo, latterly of Manchester United - scoring against Tanzania (twice) and Guinea, as Djamel Belmadi's side went on to lift their second AFCON title.

 

He may have had false starts in the past but at 23, Ounas is beginning to blossom into the player that Bordeaux and many others always believed he might become.

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UHDrive

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2 hours ago, Babylon said:

Do you have a mortgage? That money out of your pay packet to pay off the loan, means you have less to spend on other things.

You seem to have gone wildly off topic. The loans from KP entity concerning the stadium expansion and training centre are completely separate to what monies the club itself has to spend on transfers and salaries. 

Pliskin

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3 hours ago, Babylon said:

Do you have a mortgage? That money out of your pay packet to pay off the loan, means you have less to spend on other things.

Now this is where I didn’t fall short, Babs. My grandmother procured a hideous long trench coat and passed it on as a gift one Christmas, originally I was ungrateful, and stuffed it at the back of my wardrobe... since having a mortgage I found a new love for this coat, and the ability to hide a weekly shop within.... no one suspects a thing because only old folk wear such a shade a beige and old folk in beige don’t steal, I think....

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LCCFox96

LCCFox96

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5 hours ago, StanSP said:

Chelsea got rid of De Bruyne thinking he wasn't going to make it at the level Chelsea wanted to be at... 

 

To be fair there are a hundreds of examples you could give either way and I also said he'd be worth a punt based on his youth potential...

Deeg67

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Would take him in a minute.  A mercurial, flashy and quick player with lots of tricks up his sleeve - the type of skill we desperately lack at the moment.  Risky?  Hell, yes - that's why he could be cheap.  But meaning no disrespect to any supposed ITKs, I'm assuming any unofficial report something is imminent to be a false alarm.

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NaijaFox

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4 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

This signing would be somewhat of a gamble but could be a really good player. He’s got flair and a dose of maverick to his play which we’ve lacked since Mahrez left. 
 

If the price is decent then he’d be a good option. I think we are desperate for a highly skilled right forward to take us to the next level. But if we aren’t able to sign a ready made one (spoiler - we won’t) then you’ve got to gamble on someone. This guy has unpredictability to his game (the good kind not the Gray kind) and we need someone like that in the squad. As @Ric Flair says something like 15m could be worth a punt. 

Not familiar enough with his game to be certain, but the more I look (and research) the more I suspect that his unpredictability will be more or less "the Gray kind".  Conclusion: ambivalence.  

NaijaFox

NaijaFox

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29 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Would take him in a minute.  A mercurial, flashy and quick player with lots of tricks up his sleeve - the type of skill we desperately lack at the moment.  Risky?  Hell, yes - that's why he could be cheap.  But meaning no disrespect to any supposed ITKs, I'm assuming any unofficial report something is imminent to be a false alarm.

Could pretty much describe Demarai Gray. The real question is consistency and it seems this dude has fitness issues. Anyway, for the price tag being bandied about, we could do worse.

NasPb

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women lie, men lie, but stats do not. judge for yourself.

Remember, ounas didn't even play a full season at nice. 

 

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Leicester_Loyal

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17 minutes ago, NasPb said:

women lie, men lie, but stats do not. judge for yourself.

Remember, ounas didn't even play a full season at nice. 

 

We should really be going for that Gray fellow, excellent goals and assists to minutes ratio.

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Babylon

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7 hours ago, UHDrive said:

You seem to have gone wildly off topic. The loans from KP entity concerning the stadium expansion and training centre are completely separate to what monies the club itself has to spend on transfers and salaries. 

No they aren’t. The money to pay them back comes from the same pot. The income we generate through tv deals and ticket sales will be used, If we use it on paying them or any other lender, we can’t use it elsewhere.

NasPb

NasPb

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3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

We should really be going for that Gray fellow, excellent goals and assists to minutes ratio.

Maybe just a product of that ex liverpool manager at leicester. 

UHDrive

UHDrive

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4 hours ago, Babylon said:

No they aren’t. The money to pay them back comes from the same pot. The income we generate through tv deals and ticket sales will be used, If we use it on paying them or any other lender, we can’t use it elsewhere.

Just so I'm not confused do the TV monies the the TV rights and gate monies get paid into the same account that the money we pay to pay off the loans for infrastructure do? If so i appreciate the advice.

SamDZ

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14 hours ago, surrifox said:

We’ll be paying up his contract in 18 months time :unsure:

In 18 months u will be offered £80m by man United for him, you will be asking for 100m and Algerians screaming free him.

this one is really good , he didn't get his chance at Naple but im sure he will be the discovery of the season in th Epl.

 

 don't compare him to Ghazzal :nono:

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