Brendan Rodgers

[Leeds Fox]

7 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

Team just feels like it’s stagnated, part of me kinda wants Brendan to leave, can’t downplay his success with us but just feels we aren’t fulfilling our potential. 

I understand people wanting Rodgers to leave (although I disagree). However, without having someone who is going to improve where we are now, and being willing to come, it seems unnecessary to change. 

[An Sionnach]

A lot of our success over last five years has been surprising given our history over the last 130 years. It is out of the norm. Although managers have played a part , much of it has been to do with the ability that perhaps only 10 players have shown and sustained. Almost all of them relatively unrecognised before they came here. Maybe that era is passing now and we will revert to being a mid-table team. That is nothing to be depressed about , we would have been so happy with that ten years ago. Derby, Forest, Shed Wed and others would be delighted to be where we are.

[Deeg67]

28 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Has Brendan said anything about the Utd job? Read a report he wants to complete the season as he thinks we have a chance of the silverware in Europe. 

 

How much did he have to say about the Leicester job before he took it?

[foxes_rule1978]

5 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

A lot of our success over last five years has been surprising given our history over the last 130 years. It is out of the norm. Although managers have played a part , much of it has been to do with the ability that perhaps only 10 players have shown and sustained. Almost all of them relatively unrecognised before they came here. Maybe that era is passing now and we will revert to being a mid-table team. That is nothing to be depressed about , we would have been so happy with that ten years ago. Derby, Forest, Shed Wed and others would be delighted to be where we are.

We have built a 100m training ground, about to  spend millions expanding the stadium… why should people just accept reverting back to mid-table? aren’t we allowed to expect to see us move forward with what is being invested? Guess because notts, Derby and the like who have been garbage for years and years would be happy we should too. Rodgers gets paid an elite managers wage, we aren’t paying him that to move us backwards. Expectations have risen and rightly so 

Edited 13 November 2021 by foxes_rule1978

[An Sionnach]

17 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

We have built a 100m training ground, about to  spend millions expanding the stadium… why should people just accept reverting back to mid-table? aren’t we allowed to expect to see us move forward with what is being invested? Guess because notts, Derby and the like who have been garbage for years and years would be happy we should too. Rodgers gets paid an elite managers wage, we aren’t paying him that to move us backwards. Expectations have risen and rightly so 

I don't , personally , expect anything , I always hope that we will play to our capabilities and fight for every point ,but there are a lot of good teams out there and nothing is guaranteed.

Edited 13 November 2021 by An Sionnach

[deep blue]

3 hours ago, splinterdream said:

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If he has had an approach and would like to go, would we want gone sooner rather than later? 

It's a big "if", but if Rodgers were committed to leaving us in the Summer then I would prefer he went now.  I remember the effect it had on Man City in 2015-16, announcing their manager's departure 6 months in advance and then keeping him on for the rest of the season.

[volpeazzurro]

Apparently Rangers are after him 😄

[splinterdream]

3 minutes ago, deep blue said:

It's a big "if", but if Rodgers were committed to leaving us in the Summer then I would prefer he went now.  I remember the effect it had on Man City in 2015-16, announcing their manager's departure 6 months in advance and then keeping him on for the rest of the season.

It gives Rodgers a free hit at doing something without the pressure of failure, but what dies it say to the squad. 

It's great Brendan has deep respect for the club but if he has indeed said he will go, for me he should resign, anything else feels like having your cake and eating it.

[jayfox26]

4 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Conclusive.

 

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/would-you-take-rodgers-at-united.466508/

I'd be interested to know who they do want then. Zidane?

[Paninistickers]

3 hours ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

We have built a 100m training ground, about to  spend millions expanding the stadium… why should people just accept reverting back to mid-table? aren’t we allowed to expect to see us move forward with what is being invested? Guess because notts, Derby and the like who have been garbage for years and years would be happy we should too. Rodgers gets paid an elite managers wage, we aren’t paying him that to move us backwards. Expectations have risen and rightly so 

I think there's a new zeitgeist forming. There's gonna be some serious players over this next decade. Everton, West Ham and Spurs all have super stadia to bolster their prestige, fanbase and turnover. 

 

I suspect our plan is to become a regional hub and attract new academy players and casual fans from Lincs, Cambridge, Notts and Northants. The location of Seagrave is an absolute masterstroke. 

 

Newcastle over the next 20 years are gonna ruin Sunderland and Middlesbrough's base.

 

Leeds are  new stadium away from being serious 

 

Villa owners aren't gonna stop anytime soon

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, deep blue said:

It's a big "if", but if Rodgers were committed to leaving us in the Summer then I would prefer he went now.  I remember the effect it had on Man City in 2015-16, announcing their manager's departure 6 months in advance and then keeping him on for the rest of the season.

....United fell apart when Ferguson announced he was to leave at the end of the season!!!

The players work-rate dropped off and their application was poor. They were content just to see out the season. Even for a manager, so respected and feared in equal amounts it was strange having to deal with players no longer showing a commitment to the club and himself.

  After continuous poor results, Ferguson then walked back his retirement and the change was overnight. The players became focused as their career at the club was then in the hands of Ferguson, the quality and application did not drop off.

   You really can't have an announcement that you are leaving at the end of a season, being dropped on the squad in mid season. You might as well give the team the rest of the season off and play the U16s.

[StanSP]

5 hours ago, Simoken said:

lol.. we call them kids but looking at our own forum with a thread titled 'If Rodgers Goes' is equally embarrasing.

Mine was more hypothetical to be fair. He's not gonna be here forever is he, so posed the question that IF he went, who would we realistically be able to get? Not to state I think he will got to Man Utd...

[splinterdream]

5 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

How much did he have to say about the Leicester job before he took it?

I've no idea, didn't look at it that closely, if reports are correct he's changed his opinion about moving mid season, or did he resist coming to us mid season but we left him with no choice?

[Matt]

2 hours ago, deep blue said:

It's a big "if", but if Rodgers were committed to leaving us in the Summer then I would prefer he went now.  I remember the effect it had on Man City in 2015-16, announcing their manager's departure 6 months in advance and then keeping him on for the rest of the season.

 

19 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....United fell apart when Ferguson announced he was to leave at the end of the season!!!

The players work-rate dropped off and their application was poor. They were content just to see out the season. Even for a manager, so respected and feared in equal amounts it was strange having to deal with players no longer showing a commitment to the club and himself.

  After continuous poor results, Ferguson then walked back his retirement and the change was overnight. The players became focused as their career at the club was then in the hands of Ferguson, the quality and application did not drop off.

   You really can't have an announcement that you are leaving at the end of a season, being dropped on the squad in mid season. You might as well give the team the rest of the season off and play the U16s.

On the flip side if players know the manager is leaving surely you'd think they'd be playing out their skin, playing for their places to impress incoming management. (Whether it's common knowledge outside the realms of the club or not).

 

Infact in our case it could potentially improve us, hopefully the players would play to their own strengths rather than instruction of the management (if the West Brom game was anything to go by).

 

No doubt we'll see accusations of 'player power' again in coming weeks if that's the case though.

 

Edited 13 November 2021 by Matt

[The Year Of The Fox]

9 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

If / when Rodgers goes I’d take Potter. He’s in the Rodgers mould of improving young players and playing a similar way. Players who’ve played under him haven’t got a bad word to say about him either.

He took Swansea freshly relegated from the PL to the dizzy height of 10th in the Championship the following season

 

And finished 15th with Brighton

 

Don’t you think we should be aiming slightly higher than that?

 

We’re no longer a benevolent club where we employ managers to allow them to gain experience 

[Sharpe's Fox]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

He took Swansea freshly relegated from the PL to the dizzy height of 10th in the Championship the following season

 

And finished 15th with Brighton

 

Don’t you think we should be aiming slightly higher than that?

 

We’re no longer a benevolent club where we employ managers to allow them to gain experience 

I'm not exactly enamoured with Potter and there is a bit of a 'flavour of the month' thing with him at the moment but this is tosh. Brighton play well above the sum of their parts. If we could get a manager with European pedigree that would be great but that comes down to opportunity and timing and Rodgers being able to leave for his opportunity could leave us looking for someone who isn't out there. In that situation Potter is a good appointment.

[Guy]

8 hours ago, lcfc sheff said:

Team just feels like it’s stagnated, part of me kinda wants Brendan to leave, can’t downplay his success with us but just feels we aren’t fulfilling our potential. 

I'm thinking who was our previous longest serving manager prior to Rodger's March 2019 appointment = 32 months at the helm at the KP to date. I would say it was N.Pearson re his second spell between November 2011 - Summer 2015. I too think we're showing gradual tell tale signs of becoming stale behind the scenes for the most part now and if we don't do very well this season (aka a mid-lower table finish where we are now and with no silverware), then he might well go at the end of the season but I'd be surprised if it was to somewhere like Man. Utd. anytime before then.....then again nothing really surprises me in managerial terms in the English leagues these days..........

[FoxyLeon]

6 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

A lot of our success over last five years has been surprising given our history over the last 130 years. It is out of the norm. Although managers have played a part , much of it has been to do with the ability that perhaps only 10 players have shown and sustained. Almost all of them relatively unrecognised before they came here. Maybe that era is passing now and we will revert to being a mid-table team. That is nothing to be depressed about , we would have been so happy with that ten years ago. Derby, Forest, Shed Wed and others would be delighted to be where we are.

Our owners have a greater ambition than to be a mid-table team.

The largest problem we have, is that our growth, because of FFP, can only be at a certain rate.

 

The big difference, we have made over the last 5 years, is that we have firmly established ourselves in the Everton/West Ham/Villa category.

Now I'm sure there will be debates over size of grounds....Revenue....Etc etc. But the reality is, our ownership, and the extent they're willing to invest, shows that we belong at that level now, with the aims of getting to the next stage, Spurs/Arsenal etc, over a much more prolonger period.

 

There's not many better jobs in World Football for upcoming managers, than ours.

You will be backed immensely, and have realistic ambitions attached to that investment.

 

I hope the Stadium and the surrounding area development once completed, will see an end to this 'Little Leicester' attitude a lot of our fans still have, once fans get an actual real visualisation of what it is our owners are trying to build. 

[kingkisnorbo]

If and when (assuming it’s probably when now) we go for a new gaffer, I’d like us to think outside the box. The new generation of up and coming European managers from Germany etc seem really exciting. A few obvious standouts but I just feel like it would be the right direction in terms of refreshing the squad. 
 

I like Potter and I think he’s doing a great job at Brighton, but it would feel mechanical and let’s face it he’s dull as dishwater. Want a little bit more from a manager personally. 

[Sly]

Gallardo ….. 

[weller54]

24 minutes ago, Sly said:

Gallardo ….. 

... why don't you come to your senses.

You've been out riding fences for so long now..

O you're a hard one, but I know that you've got your reasons,

the things that are pleasing you, can hurt you somehow..

 

Edited 13 November 2021 by weller54

[volpeazzurro]

5 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

I'd be interested to know who they do want then. Zidane?

Let's be honest, if it was a choice between Rodgers and Zidane, who would you choose? Who would players like Ronaldo et al listen to more closely, who has more gravitas as both a former player and a manager? It's a no brainer. 

[happy85]

Brendan house hunting in Manchester according to Nixon 

[volpeazzurro]

3 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

He took Swansea freshly relegated from the PL to the dizzy height of 10th in the Championship the following season

 

And finished 15th with Brighton

 

Don’t you think we should be aiming slightly higher than that?

 

We’re no longer a benevolent club where we employ managers to allow them to gain experience 

Not sure really. After all, we took Rodgers who'd previously got the sack for being piss poor and nobody would touch him with a barge pole who then went on to be successful with a team who, at best, would be a Championship side who's only opposition at the time were League 1 and 2 opposition. We risked it there also really I suppose. 

[jayfox26]

12 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Let's be honest, if it was a choice between Rodgers and Zidane, who would you choose? Who would players like Ronaldo et al listen to more closely, who has more gravitas as both a former player and a manager? It's a no brainer. 

I wasn't suggesting they should choose Rodgers over Zidane, I was just thinking of others managers who may be available that they might be interested in. I'd imagine Zidane ticks alot of boxes for them.