Brendan Rodgers

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Think of it as the old cup winners cup 

 

that was the third option when there were three trophies 

 

wouldn’t have turned my nose up winning that and I won’t do so with this …..

 

over the next decade, the winners of this trophy will all be ‘big sides’ 

The Cup Winners Cup was considered the 2nd trophy. The Fairs Cup was the 3rd. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

5 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

Irrelevant of what hopes we had at the start of the season, we still have a tangible chance to win a trophy that means European football for a third successive season. Few clubs get a chance these days at silverware because the money involved. Who wouldn’t want 1) another trophy?! 2) more European football irrespective of the level?

HBOS

[Foxxed]

It's important we force ourselves through life's difficult and painful times and that's why I want another season of this kind of football to help me develop the kind of grit and determination that will help me power through future episodes of depression and hopelessness.

[fuchsntf]

55 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

If this conference competition is so important then I cant understand why we didnt try harder in higher  eufa  competition.

 

 Where we routinely sacrificed points to poor sides

Might be hard to Take for many...At game time, we were Simply Not Good enough, no matter the mitigating cifcumstances

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Steady on though 😅

For me with the Community Shield its about context;

 

We are the only team outside of the big 5 (Man U, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal) to have won it since Everton in 1995, which is 27 years. 

 

Outside of those 5 we are the only team to make two appearances in the final in those 27 years, only 3 other team outside the 5 have made a final appearance Newcastle, Portsmouth and Wigan.   

 

It was also top day out and a nice to got back to Wembley after enjoying the FA Cup. 

 

 

Edited 24 April 2022 by coolhandfox

[st albans fox]

29 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

The Cup Winners Cup was considered the 2nd trophy. The Fairs Cup was the 3rd. 

After that timescale 

uefa cup was comp 2 ??

 

and if uefa cup was comp 3 then I would have been ecstatic to have won that aswell ! 

[SheppyFox]

Apart from anything else, if we go out of this European cup, our season is finished, more or less? I know it’s not the most prestigious trophy, but it would still be a nice achievement for the lads. We should be favourites to win it too, if we get out arses in gear. 

[MPH]

1 minute ago, SheppyFox said:

Apart from anything else, if we go out of this European cup, our season is finished, more or less? I know it’s not the most prestigious trophy, but it would still be a nice achievement for the lads. We should be favourites to win it too, if we get out arses in gear. 

 

Winning it would also get us into the Europa league..

[SheppyFox]

3 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

Winning it would also get us into the Europa league..

Yes that too, I’d forgot that actually, somehow 😂

[TheStig]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

Winning it would also get us into the Europa league..

Which we´d then piss away by underestimating the opposition....

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

After that timescale 

uefa cup was comp 2 ??

 

and if uefa cup was comp 3 then I would have been ecstatic to have won that aswell ! 

When there were 3, these were the levels of prestige:

 

1 European Cup

2 European Cup Winners Cup

3 European Fairs Cup

 

 

[Kilworthfox]

4 hours ago, Webbo said:

I can't understand how you can support a club, in any sport, and not want to win trophies? 

I am not ever going to say that I don't want my club to win. I want us to win every tackle, let alone silverware. Ultimately what this situation with BR is about is confidence not just short term, but long term, which I believe is more important. 

 

The conflict for those who have lost faith is that if we have an upturn or win a trophy, it could be believed that with BR we genuinely have turned a corner. If this were actually the case, I can't believe any foxes fan would be against the manager. That's illogical to want otherwise. 

 

The conflict is, that once you have lost faith completely with someone in their role, minor successes could buy them additional time, to only cause further damage if they are not able to turn it around.. 

 

I feel if you consider all of the elements and metrics on which to judge BR's performance, I believe he is failing in terms of results, with the assets he has at his disposal. I also have lost confidence in his ability to recognise & recruit new players, to take us back to challenging the top 4 or 6. I believe we scrape results because of individual quality of some of our players not because we play as an effective team. This covers the managers  tactical failings in my opinion. 

 

This is why some fans are conflicted about winning, what now with a few games to go, seem pointless league games. 

 

This Cup could get us back into the Europa League, yes. I enjoy LCFC being in the European competitions. I am unsure that they are a big draw for us to recruit the better players, for example we didn't sign Goosens because we didn't qualify for the Champions league.

 

I want us to win. But I want progress long term more, and I am willing to lose this battle to win the longer term war. 

 

I know you belive in BR. I know others do. That is great that you have these beliefs. I just don't see what you see, and vice versa. 

 

 

[Sir Shep]

Beat Roma (twice) and spank Everton and I will happily admit all is forgiven and join the keepy crowd. You've been warned now Mr Rogers!!! 

[foxinsocks]

27 minutes ago, Kilworthfox said:

I am not ever going to say that I don't want my club to win. I want us to win every tackle, let alone silverware. Ultimately what this situation with BR is about is confidence not just short term, but long term, which I believe is more important. 

 

The conflict for those who have lost faith is that if we have an upturn or win a trophy, it could be believed that with BR we genuinely have turned a corner. If this were actually the case, I can't believe any foxes fan would be against the manager. That's illogical to want otherwise. 

 

The conflict is, that once you have lost faith completely with someone in their role, minor successes could buy them additional time, to only cause further damage if they are not able to turn it around.. 

 

I feel if you consider all of the elements and metrics on which to judge BR's performance, I believe he is failing in terms of results, with the assets he has at his disposal. I also have lost confidence in his ability to recognise & recruit new players, to take us back to challenging the top 4 or 6. I believe we scrape results because of individual quality of some of our players not because we play as an effective team. This covers the managers  tactical failings in my opinion. 

 

This is why some fans are conflicted about winning, what now with a few games to go, seem pointless league games. 

 

This Cup could get us back into the Europa League, yes. I enjoy LCFC being in the European competitions. I am unsure that they are a big draw for us to recruit the better players, for example we didn't sign Goosens because we didn't qualify for the Champions league.

 

I want us to win. But I want progress long term more, and I am willing to lose this battle to win the longer term war. 

 

I know you belive in BR. I know others do. That is great that you have these beliefs. I just don't see what you see, and vice versa. 

 

 

I want us to win... but Rodgers is not the future.

[Kinowe Soorie]

4 hours ago, Webbo said:

I can't understand how you can support a club, in any sport, and not want to win trophies? 

I’m still upset about the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy!

[Sir Shep]

3 minutes ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

I’m still upset about the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy!

Yeah didn't we go out to the mighty Rotherham, cried all night I did! 

[Kinowe Soorie]

5 minutes ago, Sir Shep said:

Yeah didn't we go out to the mighty Rotherham, cried all night I did! 

Lost 2-0 

[gw_leics772]

5 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

HBOS

  I'm struggling here, Giz a clue.

Edited 24 April 2022 by gw_leics772

[The Year Of The Fox]

16 minutes ago, gw_leics772 said:

  I'm struggling here, Giz a clue.

The first one 😂

[Beachyboy]

3 hours ago, TheStig said:

Which we´d then piss away by underestimating the opposition....

Where we would have another opportunity to defend our conference title, picture the scenes, Brendan wins back to back Conferences, we become the Sevilla of the conference, the fan forum argument of the two sides of, oh but we were in League one 15 years ago, other side but we could of been in the champions league. If we are gonna piss away Europa, lets at least try an do the best we can at the European level we are at, an just enjoy it if success in any shape or form happens again.

[volpeazzurro]

7 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

If this conference competition is so important then I cant understand why we didnt try harder in higher  eufa  competition.

 

 Where we routinely sacrificed points to poor sides

I 100% agree 👍🏻 

[st albans fox]

4 hours ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

When there were 3, these were the levels of prestige:

 

1 European Cup

2 European Cup Winners Cup

3 European Fairs Cup

 

 

The inter city fairs cup ended in 1971 and was replaced by the uefa cup (which became the Europa league in 2008)

 

I dont recall which trophy (cup winners cup/uefa cup) was the most prestigious. Perhaps they were considered pretty equal ….certainly when the European cup was only one club per country, the uefa cup was pretty tough to win with huge clubs competing …..

 

 

[Foxxed]

Come now. The league season has been drab. We were shit in uefa proper. But by some freak accident we’re doing well in the uefa conference. I don’t know. Let’s try to enjoy it?

[5waller5]

8 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

If this conference competition is so important then I cant understand why we didnt try harder in higher  eufa  competition.

 

 Where we routinely sacrificed points to poor sides

This is a great point!!!

[Fox92]

8 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

If this conference competition is so important then I cant understand why we didnt try harder in higher  eufa  competition.

 

 Where we routinely sacrificed points to poor sides

We did try. We were just beaten. 

 

It happens in football. Can't have everything your own way, even Fergie got dumped out of CL group stages before.