Premier League 2021/22 Thread

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Which absolutely isn't his main gripe at all. Apologies if you're deliberately twisting it for comic effect. 

 

His main gripe is they're throwing money at it with no plan and the fact that their short list is a bunch of managers with completely different football philosophies is evidence of that. 

He's literally quoted saying -  "How am I right for this project if they also think Eddie Howe is right for this project"....

Which yes is what you've said, throwing money at it, but I also read it as style/ability/stature.

 

Might just be me that read it that way.... I did throw in a bit of comic effect, I mean putting Eddie Howe in charge of £200m would be like letting your toddler do an Ocado order!

 

 

Edited 3 November 2021 by AjcW

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Amanda instigated the Man City takeover

 

That's not football knowledge. She has none. She has "sell shit to the middle East" knowledge. She helped sell a huge chunk of Barclays to the UAE, is she an expert banker, too? 

 

Man City succeeded because they did exactly the opposite of what Newcastle are being accused of. 

 

No modern ownership has been as focused in its specific vision as Man City. They decided years before Pep rocked up that they wanted their club to resemble Barcelona and have him as their boss. They hired a DOF with that background, hired a bunch of ex Barca academy coaches, structured the club from the ground up to look like Barcelona, even down to building a squad for Pep to work with in advance. 

 

Everything there is about playing his brand of total football. 

 

Now, it's not what they always did. They had to learn the hard way after throwing wasted cash at rubbish mercenaries like Adebayor, Balotelli and Co before they arrived at this. 

 

But what Newcastle need right now is infrastructure and a plan. It was pointless even sacking Bruce until they had an idea of what exactly they wanted to happen next. Currently they look like they're floundering around Ed Woodward style going "uh, who would look good to sign?" with no consideration of how it's going to operate tactically on the field. 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, AjcW said:

How am I right for this project if they also think Eddie Howe is right for this project

 

Yes but not because he thinks Howe is shit but because he recognises the vast difference in approaches. 

[Babylon]

46 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I really like that Emery's main gripe with Newcastle is that it was 'Him or Eddie Howe' and he's basically said 'Don't even think about putting me head to head with that useless wet wipe'  

How on earth do you even come up with a two man shortlist of Eddie Howe or Emery? Clear sign they don't have a clue what they are doing. Or it was a way of letting the fans down gently... "Howe is the new manager, but we tried for a good manager, honest". 

[Super_horns]

Just now, Babylon said:

How on earth do you even come up with a two man shortlist of Eddie Howe or Emery? Clear sign they don't have a clue what they are doing. Or it was a way of letting the fans down gently... "Howe is the new manager, but we tried for a good manager, honest". 

Or it will be easier to get of Howe when they want a bigger name next summer /keeps him if they go down .

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Yes but not because he thinks Howe is shit but because he recognises the vast difference in approaches. 

Like I say, people will interpret what he said differently, given they both like attacking football I personally didn't take it to mean that he felt they had very different approaches. 

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Or it will be easier to get of Howe when they want a bigger name next summer /keeps him if they go down .

I mean I can see that logic with Howe, doesn't really marry up with going for Emery also though. 

 

You would really think they'd sit an analyse a club like Leicester and what it is we've done and say "lets do that on a grander scale!". But you get the feeling they are so blind to things, they would think getting Rodgers would be all they needed to do (he's not going, just an example). 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Like I say, people will interpret what he said differently, given they both like attacking football I personally didn't take it to mean that he felt they had very different approaches. 

 

Klopp and Pep both like attacking football but if they swapped squads tomorrow, Thomas Tuchel would be doing backflips on his way to collecting a free league title. 

 

Howe and Emery are apples and oranges. 

 

Literally every credible journalist is currently writing the same story, that Emery turned them down for a lack of clear footballing vision. Nobody with a brain thinks he stropped off in a huff because he thinks he's vastly better than Howe. That's moronic. 

 

It makes a funny meme but if you actually believe that you're being a plonker. 

[AjcW]

3 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Klopp and Pep both like attacking football but if they swapped squads tomorrow, Thomas Tuchel would be doing backflips on his way to collecting a free league title. 

 

Howe and Emery are apples and oranges. 

 

Literally every credible journalist is currently writing the same story, that Emery turned them down for a lack of clear footballing vision. Nobody with a brain thinks he stropped off in a huff because he thinks he's vastly better than Howe. That's moronic. 

 

It makes a funny meme but if you actually believe that you're being a plonker. 

I'm going to give you the win here simply for using the word plonker  

[Foxxed]

I know they’ll buy Newcastle titles and intentional prestige soon enough but it would make my decade if somehow they throw billions into a geordie blackhole. Money can buy you anything except success in the Tyne and Wear. Let me dream, damn you.

[moore_94]

Come on down Eddie Howe!

 

Edited 3 November 2021 by moore_94

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Newcastle's new owners will make plenty of mistakes. Vichai and Top did (binning off NP for names that flopped like Sousa and Sven). Their success will be determined by whether they can learn from their mistakes.

[Ric Flair]

Clubs regularly seem to narrow down their candidates to a couple and they have completely differing playing style and how they operate.

 

We've done it many a time as well!!! 

[The Bear]

Someone just pointed this out to me but what was Nuno's outfit in his last game about?

 

Puffer jacket with a suit jacket over the top...  Just bizarre. 

 

 

[Sharpe's Fox]

6 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Someone just pointed this out to me but what was Nuno's outfit in his last game about?

 

Puffer jacket with a suit jacket over the top...  Just bizarre. 

 

 

going to see Skepta once he leaves the ground

[KFS]

12 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Someone just pointed this out to me but what was Nuno's outfit in his last game about?

 

Puffer jacket with a suit jacket over the top...  Just bizarre. 

 

 

Knew he was going to get stabbed in the back. Modern day Jesus imo

[AjcW]

18 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Someone just pointed this out to me but what was Nuno's outfit in his last game about?

 

Puffer jacket with a suit jacket over the top...  Just bizarre. 

 

 

Not that it’s makes it right… but it’s quite a popular trend currently in fashion. Pretty much every high street retailer has suits styled with a lightweight puffer underneath at the minute. 

[st albans fox]

I wonder how much of emery's decision is based on the fact that someone at newcastle leaked the info that he would be their next manager (possibly later this week) on the day his current side had a CL game.  hugely unprofessional and maybe indicated to him the kind of environment he would be expected to work in. 

 

 

[MattFox]

21 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Someone just pointed this out to me but what was Nuno's outfit in his last game about?

 

Puffer jacket with a suit jacket over the top...  Just bizarre. 

 

 

Poor imitation of the style icon:

 

[Lambert09]

51 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Newcastle's new owners will make plenty of mistakes. Vichai and Top did (binning off NP for names that flopped like Sousa and Sven). Their success will be determined by whether they can learn from their mistakes.

They could learn from us and just re-hire Bruce now and skip the howe years 

[Lambert09]

15 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Poor imitation of the style icon:

 

This was a bullet proof vest, he'd been reading foxes talk. 

 

He does look like that overly serious detective from a movie, that raids a building to discover the crooks were never there

[Paninistickers]

58 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Poor imitation of the style icon:

 

[weller54]

1 hour ago, KFS said:

Knew he was going to get stabbed in the back. Modern day Jesus imo

Wasn't that Julius Caesar who got stabbed in the back?..

Thought JC was crucified, but might be wrong.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, MattFox said:

Poor imitation of the style icon:

 

Ahead of his time. 

[Samilktray]

How can you not enjoy Newcastle United football club right now  them going down this season would be poetic