Premier League 2021/22 Thread

[surrifox]

In other news under the “fit and proper person to own a prem club” test

 

Saudi Arabia executed 81 people yesterday 

[Ric Flair]

I do wonder what owners would be left in the PL if a thorough investigation was done in to their past. Suppose it depends what the threshold is for what society would deem unsuitable. 

[adam95581]

8 hours ago, filbertway said:

Maguire is a massive **** though so he's not really worth any class or respect

I don’t get this view (unless you’re just saying it and are on the wind-up). 
 

He didn’t force a move across to Man U, he hasn’t been embroiled in any off-field antics, he seems to be a fairly quiet, mild-mannered guy. Certainly not a “massive ****”

 

The only thing he is guilty of is being overpriced and overhyped (which wasn’t even his fault) 

[mozartfox]

20 minutes ago, surrifox said:

In other news under the “fit and proper person to own a prem club” test

 

Saudi Arabia executed 81 people yesterday 

No wonder then Newcastle have turned their results around….

[Jimothy]

13 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

I don’t get this view (unless you’re just saying it and are on the wind-up). 
 

He didn’t force a move across to Man U, he hasn’t been embroiled in any off-field antics, he seems to be a fairly quiet, mild-mannered guy. Certainly not a “massive ****”

 

The only thing he is guilty of is being overpriced and overhyped (which wasn’t even his fault) 

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/aug/25/harry-maguire-found-guilty-of-aggravated-assault-and-bribery-in-greece

[Jobyfox]

12 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

I don’t get this view (unless you’re just saying it and are on the wind-up). 
 

He didn’t force a move across to Man U, he hasn’t been embroiled in any off-field antics, he seems to be a fairly quiet, mild-mannered guy. Certainly not a “massive ****”

 

The only thing he is guilty of is being overpriced and overhyped (which wasn’t even his fault) 

So you missed the bit when he was arrested in Greece and comments to the police amounted to him asking - “don’t you know who I am” and offering a bribe? 

[ARTY_FOX]

8 hours ago, blockheadder said:

I hate that. Totally lacking in class. Whatever you think of Maguire, to me that screams "I'm a complete cVnt" from Romero.

You say this now but if vardy did it we'd be loving it. 

[NasPb]

41 minutes ago, surrifox said:

In other news under the “fit and proper person to own a prem club” test

 

Saudi Arabia executed 81 people yesterday 

All with western support and backing 

 

Remember the current Saudi family is not just an ally nowadays rather they were empowered by the British in the 19th century. They did so to spread mayhem and caos across the region. And that's what they've done. They're agents of chaos. And they had no power before the British supported them. For the west tirany is only tirany when they're classic foes are doing it 

[majaco]

41 minutes ago, surrifox said:

In other news under the “fit and proper person to own a prem club” test

 

Saudi Arabia executed 81 people yesterday 

 

34 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I do wonder what owners would be left in the PL if a thorough investigation was done in to their past. Suppose it depends what the threshold is for what society would deem unsuitable. 

Money is everything in the Premier League. Morality and decency take a back seat.

 

There is a lot of oil money, climate change money about.   We are not the worst but King Power did not get their money by being a not for profit charity.  

 

Fans basically accept being exploited and exploitation in football.   

 

It is not news that Abrahmovic is close to Putin.   Putin's record in Georgia, Syria and Chechnya is hardly secret.  The difference is when awful things happen in Ukraine, awful things happen on NATO's borders.

 

The Newcastle takeover is uncomfortable.  Bit now the Saudi's oil revenue will grow while Russia's diminishes.  Chelsea might fall; Newcastle will likely rise.

 

Fan ownership of clubs would be preferable but the money imperative makes that impossible and, to many, probably undesirable.

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, majaco said:

 

Money is everything in the Premier League. Morality and decency take a back seat.

 

There is a lot of oil money, climate change money about.   We are not the worst but King Power did not get their money by being a not for profit charity.  

 

Fans basically accept being exploited and exploitation in football.   

 

It is not news that Abrahmovic is close to Putin.   Putin's record in Georgia, Syria and Chechnya is hardly secret.  The difference is when awful things happen in Ukraine, awful things happen on NATO's borders.

 

The Newcastle takeover is uncomfortable.  Bit now the Saudi's oil revenue will grow while Russia's diminishes.  Chelsea might fall; Newcastle will likely rise.

 

Fan ownership of clubs would be preferable but the money imperative makes that impossible and, to many, probably undesirable.

Spot on

[mozartfox]

36 minutes ago, NasPb said:

All with western support and backing 

 

Remember the current Saudi family is not just an ally nowadays rather they were empowered by the British in the 19th century. They did so to spread mayhem and caos across the region. And that's what they've done. They're agents of chaos. And they had no power before the British supported them. For the west tirany is only tirany when they're classic foes are doing it 

I blame Wellens great great uncle - Lawrence.

[foxes_rule1978]

I agree with every sanction because Russia yes Russia are invading a fellow country… stop trying to compare owners  civilians are dying and Abramovich is funding this nonsense 

[coolhandfox]

24 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

I agree with every sanction because Russia yes Russia are invading a fellow country… stop trying to compare owners  civilians are dying and Abramovich is funding this nonsense 

Does an innocent life taken in Ukraine mean more than the one taken in Saudi Arabia?

 

It is not really what the overall conversation is about. It is about whether the PL or the UK government should allow individuals with solid links to autocratic governments with appalling human rights records to own PL teams.

 

It is sports washing which is effectively reputation management through sport. It nothing new in 1936 the Berlin Olympics was used by Hitler to promote his ideas. 

Edited 13 March 2022 by coolhandfox

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Does an innocent life taken in Ukraine mean more than the one taken in Saudi Arabia?

 

It is not really what the overall conversation is about. It is about whether the PL or the UK government should allow individuals with solid links to autocratic governments with appalling human rights records to own PL teams.

 

It is sports washing which is effectively reputation management through sport.

I agree with you there, and yes the PL should step up and not allow these dodging owners who are very much involved with governments that have such records. Didn’t agree with the Newcastle takeover and never agreed with the Chelsea one all those years ago either 

[Suzie the Fox]

5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Does an innocent life taken in Ukraine mean more than the one taken in Saudi Arabia?

 

It is not really what the overall conversation is about. It is about whether the PL or the UK government should allow individuals with solid links to autocratic governments with appalling human rights records to own PL teams.

 

It is sports washing which is effectively reputation management through sport. It nothing new in 1936 the Berlin Olympics was used by Hitler to promote his ideas. 

I love your posts and very much agree with most. This one 100%. Life is life regardless of place or country 

[He aint bald]

5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I do wonder what owners would be left in the PL if a thorough investigation was done in to their past. Suppose it depends what the threshold is for what society would deem unsuitable. 

 

The more prosperous a society, the more potential to address the sliding scale of bad stuff 

Most individuals start with that what affects or interests them most. 

Even well intentioned people will be a hypocrite to somebody.

Chelsea, Newcastle and King Power owners all got into bed with the ruling classes to develop or be given their businesses;

 

Obviously, I find the Russian and Saudi situations worse

[mozartfox]

Everton seem very upset with Wolves antics at the moment.  They do not like it up’em.

[The Bear]

3 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Everton seem very upset with Wolves antics at the moment.  They do not like it up’em.

Meh. Hwang got injured. Tried to run it off but couldn't. Screw em. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Hernandez scores for Watford against Southampton, pretty good player 

[filbertway]

Wolves players cheating and basically doing anything but trying to play football. Thats a surprise

 

 

[mozartfox]

I thought 3 had suspended their sponsorship of Chelski?? 

[Cincinnati Fox]

8 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Wolves players cheating and basically doing anything but trying to play football. Thats a surprise

 

 

We could learn a thing or 2 from them

[Cincinnati Fox]

1 minute ago, mozartfox said:

I thought 3 had suspended their sponsorship of Chelski?? 

Yes but Chelsea can’t buy any gaffer tape to cover the logo up. Was talk they would have to play skins

Edited 13 March 2022 by Peckfortonfox

[kyleolly]

Just now, mozartfox said:

I thought 3 had suspended their sponsorship of Chelski?? 

They have but chelsea can't pay out to get some sponsorless shirts made up

[Tinman]

If Newcastle had gotten a point for each head their owners cut off yesterday, they'd be 12 points clear at the top.