The Elephant in the room...

[Captain...]

Just now, dmayne7 said:

Perhaps they or perhaps they aren't? Unfortunately you'll always have people who would boo whatever the action taken but don't dismiss the fact there is that link for some people. Especially when we're in a situation when some 'tenuous' link to slavery 300 years ago is causing a rewrite of history or a sudden admission of guilt. You can't have it both ways.

 

I'm proud of the fact that we're the only club who has 2 players feature in the anti-discrimination video played before matches. Equally not proud of fans booing before games.

 

What we should actually be doing is engaging with all players and the authorities to understand what they believe an effective message would be as it's clearly not taking the knee anymore.

I think taking the knee is even more important now than at any point as fans are coming back, and it needs to carry on so full stadiums can show their support and bigots can be exposed.

 

It would make sense at some point to dial it back to have an anti racism round of fixtures, like the pride fixtures or make it mean something, every second they spend taking the knee represents a racist message received by a player on either team since the last game.

 

I was stunned and appalled by the message that was sent to Ian Wright. I think in my head I assumed most of it was calling someone a black **** rather than just a **** but this is vile.

 

"Ian Wright and Alan Shearer discuss the impact of racist online abuse - BBC Sport" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56949358

[Duncan_K]

Most people where i was (including me) were clapping. There definitely were some boos from within the Leicester sections but i thought the louder boos were from the Chelsea end, was about the only time i heard them all match. 

[Vacamion]

 

When I heard it on the telly I assumed it was Chelsea, given the form of some of their fans.

 

Really disappointing to hear it was City fans.

 

 

[Bert]

Don’t support the booing. But also think the sentiment has run its course. I firmly believe this won’t happen when the new season starts. 

[Captain...]

3 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I'll never understand why people boo it.

You might not agree with the message or any political element to it but to actually boo it... beyond words.

To disagree with the message (racism is wrong) is to be a racist, you might as well embrace it and let everyone know by booing.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

What kind of threat do people perceive there to be on footballers taking a stand against racism?  Absolutely baffling and neanderthal behaviour.

[Voll Blau]

I can't believe there are people out there dense enough to believe that 22 multi-millionaires are kneeling down because they're part of a Marxist conspiracy, rather than just human beings.

[dmayne7]

3 minutes ago, Captain... said:

I think taking the knee is even more important now than at any point as fans are coming back, and it needs to carry on so full stadiums can show their support and bigots can be exposed.

 

It would make sense at some point to dial it back to have an anti racism round of fixtures, like the pride fixtures or make it mean something, every second they spend taking the knee represents a racist message received by a player on either team since the last game.

 

I was stunned and appalled by the message that was sent to Ian Wright. I think in my head I assumed most of it was calling someone a black **** rather than just a **** but this is vile.

 

"Ian Wright and Alan Shearer discuss the impact of racist online abuse - BBC Sport" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56949358

It is important but I'd be surprised if you don't get a big backlash with fans back in the stadiums. Sadly there's going to be those people who will just boo and not just through ignorance but as you say, bigotry. And those people will never change, whatever message they hear/see.

 

Again, sadly I'm not surprised by people sending messages like that (and to somebody like Wrighty who I've heard from people who know him, as a top as bloke as he comes across on TV). I don't see how education stops those people because they're far too thick to get it.

[HighPeakFox]

As I said elsewhere, there will always be a percentage of people that are hateful dicks. And if they're booing this, made of emotional biscuits too.

Edited 17 May 2021 by HighPeakFox

[Captain...]

1 minute ago, dmayne7 said:

It is important but I'd be surprised if you don't get a big backlash with fans back in the stadiums. Sadly there's going to be those people who will just boo and not just through ignorance but as you say, bigotry. And those people will never change, whatever message they hear/see.

 

Again, sadly I'm not surprised by people sending messages like that (and to somebody like Wrighty who I've heard from people who know him, as a top as bloke as he comes across on TV). I don't see how education stops those people because they're far too thick to get it.

Then football clubs should identify them and ban them.

[KFS]

People booing need to realise that it doesn’t come across that they are booing the so called politicised nature of the BLM movement, but it comes across as racist sympathy. 
 

Booing is such that it cannot be explained at the time of the action so people need to knock it off and take action by other means if the taking of the knee offends you.

Edited 17 May 2021 by KFS

[Raj]

I'd just like to ask them 

"Why are you booing the players for taking the knee?"

 

I'm genuinely  interested to hear from the Booers.

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

25 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

The clowns in the stands thankfully got overshadowed by Hamza and Fofana who showed what Leicester City is really about. Must be embarrassing for Dave, Keith and Gary that they are getting showed up by footballers three times less their age.

What would your view been had it been a Israel flag ? I’m sorry but this isn’t what Leicester city are about. If you seen the amount of vile abuse the Jewish community had been getting this weekend then you would think again. Its made more for a awkward situation then anything. 

Edited 17 May 2021 by TrickyTrev Benjamin

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Champion of free speech Laurence Fox, is absolutely fuming two of our players used their right to free speech to hold up a flag. These people are literally beyond parody.

 

Laurence Fox ✌🏼🇬🇧✌🏼 (@LozzaFox) Tweeted: Hound these twats out aswell. Or give the ball chasing woke babies an atlas and ask them to pinpoint Palestine on a map. https://t.co/8LEiRIoHL7 https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1393936520864804865?s=20

Edited 17 May 2021 by Chocolate Teapot

[ian__marshall]

Felt embarrassed to hear our fans boo this. Wasn't even a few either. For a City as diverse as ours I expected better. 

[GingerrrFox]

I would rather our government pulled its finger out in relation to Palestine than worry about some of our no brains booing the players kneeling. You are always gonna have people who can barely string a coherent sentence together boo things they don’t understand, it’s impossible to change that. 

[ARM1968]

Unfortunately I think the BLM movement has just been appropriated for political gain now. Racism is a thorny subject and it occurs across the globe and is aimed at almost everyone. Obviously the racism we have seen is predominantly against black people - although they’re not black. People of colour?  We’re all people of colour. 
 

I think taking the knee is now so perfunctory it is meaningless and should stop. 
 

Quite what the answer is I don’t know. Personally I don’t see colour I just see people - it would be simple if everyone saw things the same. 
 

 

[Captain...]

29 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

What would your view been had it been a Israel flag ? I’m sorry but this isn’t what Leicester city are about. If you seen the amount of vile abuse the Jewish community had been getting this weekend then you would think again. Its made more for a awkward situation then anything. 

I would see it as players showing solidarity with those on the Israeli side that have lost their lives. There is always tragedy on both sides of a conflict, you can show compassion and solidarity for one without necessarily demonizing the other. The difference between a positive message, displaying a flag, making a gesture of something you care about, and a negative message, like booing an anti racism gesture, is huge.

Edited 17 May 2021 by Captain...

[Captain...]

3 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Unfortunately I think the BLM movement has just been appropriated for political gain now.

Why do you think that?

[STUHILL]

6 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

What would your view been had it been a Israel flag ? I’m sorry but this isn’t what Leicester city are about. If you seen the amount of vile abuse the Jewish community had been getting this weekend then you would think again. Its made more for a awkward situation then anything. 

We should never tie an extreme action of a few to a genuine peaceful action by others. This is the same for kneeling to show unity against racism. Those players kneeling should not be tied to the extreme actions of a few BLM activists who cross the line. 

[Number 6]

Genuinely found this pretty depressing and upsetting to be amongst. My wife and I sort of didn't talk about it for a good 24 hours, probably due to the euphoria of the game, but mentioned how we both were kind of hurt by it to be honest. 

 

As a straight, white guy I am privileged enough to not have to suffer discrimination. But I went to school in Leicester, through the 90s and early 00s, as many on here must have, and saw and heard the racism many of my friends suffered (some who I know attended on Saturday). I kind of thought we'd know better as a fan base, but apparently not.

 

I think saying you are booing the political aspect is a crutch being used to liberate some pretty horrible opinions.

 

It shows that we still have much to do but I do think Zaha is right in that it has become an empty gesture. And Bamford called this out recently about people being more affronted by affects on the wallet rather than racism. 

 

I think it should probably end this season but that may be because I'm dreading the reactions to it this week. It needs channelling into proper action now.

[coolhandfox]

Just shows for me, that it need to continue.....

[Pliskin]

Quite a few boo’d where I was sat. 

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

2 minutes ago, Captain... said:

I would see it as players showing solidarity with those on the Israeli side that have lost their lives. There is always tragedy on both sides of a conflict, you can show compassion and solidarity for one without necessarily demonizing the other. The difference between a positive message, displaying a flag, making a gesture of something you care about, and a negative message, booing an anti racism gesture is huge.

So what’s hamza and Wes connection to Palestine ? Only thing, I can genuinely think of is religion. It has no place on a football pitch and I don’t want this to turn into a Israel vs Palestine thing but at the moment  it’s turning very anti Semitic and this weekend you had both leaders of both parties condemning it. 

[Jimmy]

I do wonder how many players actually want to do this compared to how many feel they HAVE to do this, if there was a secret ballot I wonder what the outcome would be