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Championship - 2021/2022

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Fox92

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No, it's never nice to see any club in that mess, already being discussed in Championship thread.

 

Big clubs got away with it. Pure corruption. 

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FoxInTheBirstallBox

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Derby flounted the rules and bragged about it. They openly fiddled the books, and the fans lapped it up claiming Mel to be a mastermind sticking the V's up to the EFL

 

They had this coming and I definitely don't feel sorry for them lol they laughed when Birmingham were in the same situation, and cov, and us

Fox92

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All owners will be dodgy and do what they need to get the club at the best level. Unfortunately there's not much fans can do. Seeing a club go is horrific, not just for the fan base but the community too. That's without even considering non footballing people who'll lose their jobs. Not nice to see.

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Aus Fox

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Had anyone thought of the fans? Why are they being punished for the owners mistakes?

Or do we only care about fans of the big money six?

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coolhandfox

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Anyone enjoying the demise of Derby isn't a football fan.

 

Laughing at their failure on the pitch is one thing, but taking pleasure on people losing their jobs, watching a institution of 137 years and a founder members of the Football League go bust is another. 

 

We could have gone the way of Bury in the 00s 

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FoxInTheBirstallBox

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Just now, coolhandfox said:

Any enjoying the demise of Derby isn't a football fan.

 

Laughing at their failure on the pitch is one thing, but taking pleasure on people losing their jobs, watching a institution of 137 years and a founder members of the Football League go bust is another. 

 

We could have gone the way of Bury in the 00s 

If it was just because it was financial struggles then yeah okay.

 

But they actively fiddled the books, bragged about it (selling ground to themselves for inflated prices, fake proposed buyers, 32red deals with staff to avoid ffp)

 

They brought this on themselves, even the club statement blamed everyone else but themselves! lol

 

 

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Langston

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10 minutes ago, Farrington fox said:

Same at Forest, I would love them to get back to somewhere near their former glory days. Leicester v Forest used to be one of the best fixtures on the list for me. Sadly I can't see it happening, probably ever.

 

Piss off.

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coolhandfox

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2 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

If it was just because it was financial struggles then yeah okay.

 

But they actively fiddled the books, bragged about it (selling ground to themselves for inflated prices, fake proposed buyers, 32red deals with staff to avoid ffp)

 

They brought this on themselves, even the club statement blamed everyone else but themselves! lol

 

 

I don't care about the ownership, the fans didn't fiddle the books did they. 

 

Owners come and go, fans don't

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Cincinnati Fox

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Mel Morris is a conman! The statement blaming it all on covid is laughable. The points deduction and relegation was happening anyway for all the financial irregularities during his ownership. So taking the administration to wipe the debts is just another part of his scam.

Football as a business is ridiculous and until astrometric wages top down are stopped these things will keep happening.

 

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12 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

All owners will be dodgy and do what they need to get the club at the best level. Unfortunately there's not much fans can do. Seeing a club go is horrific, not just for the fan base but the community too. That's without even considering non footballing people who'll lose their jobs. Not nice to see.

That's the problem. Fans should have a say because it's not their fault that some idiots have bought their club. Fans need a voice and this government won't do anything (not a surprise lol, just as Jow the premier league won't ban man city or Chelsea for dodgy dealings To say the least lol) 

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hackenbacker

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14 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

No, it's never nice to see any club in that mess, already being discussed in Championship thread.

 

Big clubs got away with it. Pure corruption. 

Didn't we get away with it?

Fox92

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10 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

Derby flounted the rules and bragged about it. They openly fiddled the books, and the fans lapped it up claiming Mel to be a mastermind sticking the V's up to the EFL

 

They had this coming and I definitely don't feel sorry for them lol they laughed when Birmingham were in the same situation, and cov, and us

All clubs do that. Our fans back anything our ownership does and some of the stuff has been dodgy. Thankfully we got promoted but do not forget we made a 20m+ loss 

 

Fans have no control over what owners do.

Fox92

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Didn't we get away with it?

I was referring to super league but we settled with football league, as I've just posted, yeah.

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4 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

If it was just because it was financial struggles then yeah okay.

 

But they actively fiddled the books, bragged about it (selling ground to themselves for inflated prices, fake proposed buyers, 32red deals with staff to avoid ffp)

 

They brought this on themselves, even the club statement blamed everyone else but themselves! lol

 

 


theres possibly 5-6 people max who made all those decisions and it’s certainly not those that cool hand fox is feeling sorry for. the club was there before them and they’ve  brought it all to its knees and put hundreds of non complicit peoples Jobs on the line… we could have the most corrupt owner in the world but if our club went down like this my  8 year old son would be devastated. So would I in fact. That’s all he’s talking about.

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The big clubs get away with everything, no punishments whatsoever. Fuck the rest is the feeling I get from authorities

 

Disgraceful.

 

I'm in two minds really because on one hand i'm sick of the Man City's consistently breaking FFP and the punishment is simply paying it off, that isn't a punishment, before Derby went into adminstration they were looking at a -9 (-3 the following season) for breaking FFP, how can you do that when Man City get nothing?

 

To add to all that 6 English clubs tried to break the English league pyramid last season - no punishment at all, infact media, fans and authorities pedelled the opinion "You can't dock the points, that's punishing the fans who had no part of it all", isn't that the case with this? They set a precedent last season and how they can turn round now and give heavy handed punishments out to anyone but the 'elite' is disgusting.

 

Surely you should be helping clubs who are in such a mess regards adminstration - I don't see how it's any form of cheating or rules breaking - certainly when you look at how Man City break rules.

 

However, on the other hand, when we went into administration, each club was given a vote about points deductions for clubs going into administration, correct? I believe only we voted against a point deduction (Possibly one or two others - Bradford seem to stick in my mind? :dunno:), I assume Derby voted for points deductions for clubs going into adminstration so what goes around comes around really.

 

I just wish there was far more transparency and rules were enforced evenly, across the board and the big teams got punished but nah, the big teams can break as many rules as they want and get away without any repercussions.

 

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Spudulike

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30 minutes ago, Farrington fox said:

Same at Forest, I would love them to get back to somewhere near their former glory days. Leicester v Forest used to be one of the best fixtures on the list for me. Sadly I can't see it happening, probably ever.

:fishing:

Babylon

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35 minutes ago, oxford fox said:

The last point is that it’s still baffles me how those so called big six still got away with trying to ruin football and did not get any points deduction 

Simple, there was no rule stating what would happen if they did what they did. So any punishment would be argued in the courts forever by several billionaires.

fox_up_north

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It's one thing to see them relegated to League 2 for hilarity but that's people's club and team. Doesn't matter what team it is - they're important to people and communities. 

 

I'd hope they would be reborn as a Phoenix club if they did go. 

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