Stadium Expansion update August 2021 - Public Consultation Closed

[coolhandfox]

3 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

They will, they won’t be interested in the day to day running of the places, it will be something like Hilton @ Kingpower as long as they get the rent and the name broadcasted I’m sure they will be happy, same with the residential building they will get a Management company in to deal with the day to day stuff but will pick up the rental money 

Well they don't for their existing hotels.

 

It will be king power running the show separate from the football operations 

Edited 15 August 2021 by coolhandfox

[jammie82uk]

46 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Well they don't for their existing hotels.

 

It will be king power running the show separate from the football operations 

I’m sure Accorhotels won’t agree with you on that with the Pullman Bangkok King Power hotel

[Webbo]

Isn't it a bit silly to argue about what definitely will happen or what definitely won't happen when none of us actually know?

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

Isn't it a bit silly to argue about what definitely will happen or what definitely won't happen when none of us actually know?

Hardly arguing, its called having a discussion on a Sunday night with little else to do!

[Webbo]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

Hardly arguing, its called having a discussion on a Sunday night with little else to do!

You said there was "no chance" of something happening. If you'd said "I think" fair enough, don't know how anyone can talk in certainties unless they have inside knowledge.

[Paninistickers]

3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

The one thing to consider about the other buildings is that LCFC will look for a partner on them to share some of the costs. For example, getting a Hilton or similar on board for the hotel. They are arena operators as well. They will go in collab with a private residential developer on the apartments too probably (like what happened with the development opposite the Novotel) 

Agree about a partner but I don't think the partner share costs.

 

I think novotel or holiday Inn or whoever avoid wrapping up cash in capital outlay. They let a developer stump up readies for the build and then agree to a (often off plan) a 99 year lease

[coolhandfox]

15 minutes ago, Webbo said:

You said there was "no chance" of something happening. If you'd said "I think" fair enough, don't know how anyone can talk in certainties unless they have inside knowledge.

Maybe I do.......

[Lineker's Lugs]

The FAQs on the club website concerning the development refer to 'interdependencies between the buildings from an economic perspective' and say a lack of support from the council (which I take to mean approval for the hybrid planning application rather than financial assistance) would 'compromise the overall development'.

 

And later it says 'the financial viability of the masterplan elements work together to achieve financial viability for the stadium expansion,' which sounds like if the other buildings don't happen the stand doesn't happen.

 

Presumably the club has been working closely enough with the council to be confident in the success of the application before going public with all the plans.  I hope!

 

 

[CosbehFox]

42 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Agree about a partner but I don't think the partner share costs.

 

I think novotel or holiday Inn or whoever avoid wrapping up cash in capital outlay. They let a developer stump up readies for the build and then agree to a (often off plan) a 99 year lease

Agreed. 

[leicesterseddon]

22 hours ago, Lineker's Lugs said:

The FAQs on the club website concerning the development refer to 'interdependencies between the buildings from an economic perspective' and say a lack of support from the council (which I take to mean approval for the hybrid planning application rather than financial assistance) would 'compromise the overall development'.

 

And later it says 'the financial viability of the masterplan elements work together to achieve financial viability for the stadium expansion,' which sounds like if the other buildings don't happen the stand doesn't happen.

 

Presumably the club has been working closely enough with the council to be confident in the success of the application before going public with all the plans.  I hope!

 

 

Interesting. Yes I think you’re right - there might have to be tweaks, but I think the council will be supportive overall 

 

I do find it odd that the club have not specified even a rough figure for the overall cost, or explained how they plan to finance this 

 

It would also be helpful, for the sake of transparency, to specify who will be operating the different parts of the site 

 

Also - will these be assets of the club or assets of King Power International? I know it doesn’t much matter at the moment, but it might one day 

[SemperEadem]

55 minutes ago, leicesterseddon said:

Interesting. Yes I think you’re right - there might have to be tweaks, but I think the council will be supportive overall 

 

I do find it odd that the club have not specified even a rough figure for the overall cost, or explained how they plan to finance this 

 

It would also be helpful, for the sake of transparency, to specify who will be operating the different parts of the site 

 

Also - will these be assets of the club or assets of King Power International? I know it doesn’t much matter at the moment, but it might one day 

This is hugely important 

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, leicesterseddon said:

Interesting. Yes I think you’re right - there might have to be tweaks, but I think the council will be supportive overall 

 

I do find it odd that the club have not specified even a rough figure for the overall cost, or explained how they plan to finance this 

 

It would also be helpful, for the sake of transparency, to specify who will be operating the different parts of the site 

 

Also - will these be assets of the club or assets of King Power International? I know it doesn’t much matter at the moment, but it might one day 

 

6 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

This is hugely important 

The stadium isn't a club asset, is it? Purchased by K Power Holdings Ltd. So I guess the stand upgrade and other development probably won't be either. Same with Seagrave most probably. 

[Spudulike]

Less than two weeks to the end of the public consultation and I haven't heard of any objections, the formation of a protest group or MP's sticking their oars in. In the normal way of planning applications I suppose that any formal objections will be made public during the full application stage. However, you'd think the media would've cottoned on to any anti's by now (if there are any). 

 

Is it too much to hope that no one objects?

[sacreblueits442]

10 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Less than two weeks to the end of the public consultation and I haven't heard of any objections, the formation of a protest group or MP's sticking their oars in. In the normal way of planning applications I suppose that any formal objections will be made public during the full application stage. However, you'd think the media would've cottoned on to any anti's by now (if there are any). 

 

Is it too much to hope that no one objects?

....they are probably thinking, lets get on with it!!!

 

[Zear0]

20 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Less than two weeks to the end of the public consultation and I haven't heard of any objections, the formation of a protest group or MP's sticking their oars in. In the normal way of planning applications I suppose that any formal objections will be made public during the full application stage. However, you'd think the media would've cottoned on to any anti's by now (if there are any). 

 

Is it too much to hope that no one objects?

I can say with complete confidence that someone will object.

[PhillippaT]

59 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

I can say with complete confidence that someone will object.

"Won't someone think of the foxes?" No, wait....

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Less than two weeks to the end of the public consultation and I haven't heard of any objections, the formation of a protest group or MP's sticking their oars in. In the normal way of planning applications I suppose that any formal objections will be made public during the full application stage. However, you'd think the media would've cottoned on to any anti's by now (if there are any). 

 

Is it too much to hope that no one objects?

I think it harder to have objections to a development for a successful organisation that shows Leicester in a very positive light and puts it on the map International. 

 

All of the build is on brown land. 

 

Not really in a massive residential area etc 

[SpacedX]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Is it too much to hope that no one objects?

It's ultimately what scotched the Bede Island development as I recall. But this is different being an expansion to an existing stadium and more removed from the surrounding residential area. 

[Paninistickers]

1 minute ago, Line-X said:

It's ultimately what scotched the Bede Island development as I recall. But this is different being an expansion to an existing stadium and more removed from the surrounding residential area. 

Yes, there was a woman Councillor who appeared to make it her personal mission to block bede Island. She lobbied local residents to register protest against something the majority were ambivalent to.

[davieG]

When the Council put it out for consultation is when your likely to get any serious organised objection. That's also when all the individual members of the public will send in their  objections. 

[Spudulike]

9 minutes ago, davieG said:

When the Council put it out for consultation is when your likely to get any serious organised objection. That's also when all the individual members of the public will send in their  objections. 

And that will presumably happen once the application for full planning approval has been submitted? 

 

I think it was said that approval for the East Stand expansion would be sought first, separately from the other 7(?) buildings which will form subsequent applications. Not quite sure how this sequence will work relating to dependances. 

 

The nightmare scenario will be significant objections meaning the application(s) get called in by the Secretary of State to make the decision. I'd rather not think about that possibility. 

[GloverFox]

Wow, vision, ambition and the future …. Fantastic.  When I read this thread and an opening saying this is not the Leicester City i grew up with my first thoughts were me neither, thank goodness for that! ….. walking past the buzzing power sub-station and the old Victorian terraces! Thank goodness we’ve lived beyond those decaying old relics of the past! …. Loved it all at the time, but times and thankfully the Club have all moved forward as well.

From where we have come from at Filbert Street to today is simply awesome, the future looks simply staggering and beyond my wildest dreams as a kid who adored Filbert Street, the Club, the players and the fans of the Club.  I can’t wait to see it materialise…. Fingers crossed …. Good times, positive times …. Simply awesome times ahead!

[iancognito]

7 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Yes, there was a woman Councillor who appeared to make it her personal mission to block bede Island. She lobbied local residents to register protest against something the majority were ambivalent to.

Maggie Bodell-Stagg. Absolute battleaxe.

[iancognito]

On 16/08/2021 at 21:09, leicesterseddon said:

Interesting. Yes I think you’re right - there might have to be tweaks, but I think the council will be supportive overall 

 

I do find it odd that the club have not specified even a rough figure for the overall cost, or explained how they plan to finance this 

 

It would also be helpful, for the sake of transparency, to specify who will be operating the different parts of the site 

 

Also - will these be assets of the club or assets of King Power International? I know it doesn’t much matter at the moment, but it might one day 

The club took out two loans early in 2020 to cover Seagrave and the potential stadium expansion. Repayments being based on future TV revenues.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-bank-loans-training-2475803

[coolhandfox]

Club is running a Q&A  webinar

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/2224092/stadium-development-webinar-registration-now-open