Champions League 2021/22

[Leeds Fox]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

It's not really a shit rule though is it? If a player plays a through ball to an offside player and it takes a nick off a defender on the way, you can't give the goal surely

That’s not what happened though is it?

 

It wasn’t a deflection.

 

The ‘deliberately playing the ball’ guff from Peter Walton was a load of rubbish too. Making a tackle constitutes playing the ball, it doesn’t have to be a pass. He was making the laws suit the situation on the spot there. 

[tom27111]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

It is, but it would be the same reason. You could argue it was a deliberate play by Fabinho but saying the rule is stupid is a bit weird imo

Fabinho has gone to play the ball. 

 

He's played the ball.

 

It's onside.

 

Genuinely don't know how it could be interpreted as offside.

[foxile5]

Just now, kingkisnorbo said:

Probably a stupid question but can someone tell me why in that context Robertson wouldn’t be playing Benzema on? Sorry for being a Luddite. 

Needs to be two players between the scorer and goalline. 

 

99% of the time is the keeper but Alison was more advanced so only Robertson as van Djik playing him off.

[Bert]

17 minutes ago, bovril said:

Looked to me like the Real player did touch it forward when he was off, the fact it then subsequently comes off the Liverpool player would then be irrelevant. 

But the ball then hits Konate, changes direction then comes off Fabinho?

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I think Konate sliding in made the contact by Fabinho accidental. It’s a crap rule, we should just accept the outcome of the many players coming together.

But is Konate's slide in, and touch on the ball, deliberate? Therefore making anything after that a moot point? 

[bovril]

Just now, Bert said:

But the ball then hits Konate, changes direction then comes off Fabinho?

I don't know honestly. I just think if someone is in an offside position when an attacking player plays it forward it should be given as offside. I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle to be honest  

[Wolfox]

He’s sliding in from distance…. He’s not playing a controlled pass…

[foxile5]

Just now, Wolfox said:

He’s sliding in from distance…. He’s not playing a controlled pass…

The argument would be that there is intention to play the ball regardless. 

[UniFox21]

Lot of stewards in that Liverpool end 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

But is Konate's slide in, and touch on the ball, deliberate? Therefore making anything after that a moot point? 

I have no idea, it’s ridiculous, but I assume that had something to do with the contact being deemed accidental. 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Really don't know what the offside rule is in instances like that. 

[tom27111]

Just now, Wolfox said:

He’s sliding in from distance…. He’s not playing a controlled pass…

But he's gone to play the ball.

 

If Fabinho and Konate don't make that challenge, who's to say a Real Madrid attacker doesn't sweep that in to the back of the net?

 

Terrible officiating. 

[Guest Lako42]

1 minute ago, UniFox21 said:

Lot of stewards in that Liverpool end 

Could be because they have been acting up all afternoon? 

[mad biker]

It`s an awful lot of heads to bang together I know but stop arguing about a dubious VAR decision and get on with hating Liverpool and cheering on Real !

[Nalis]

This match needs a different talking point now

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

What about Konate sliding in and touching the ball? 

This is the thing 

konate goes to play the ball but valverde gets there first and shoots towards goal.  Konate then makes contact with the ball from he shot and plays it against Fabinho - but neither contact is deliberate because of the play by valverde.  Walton says it’s simple but it isn’t. You could have gone either way on it.  Given that the lino gave offside, it seems reasonable to stick wit( the on field call . 

[tom27111]

Just now, Nalis said:

This match needs a different talking point now

Shall we go back to what scum Liverpool 'fans' are? 

[Foxdiamond]

15 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Not sure what's been worse tonight...

 

 

The match being delayed because of the scousers

 

The americanised pre match show

 

The game itself

 

The offside decision

 

Or the Katy Perry just eat advert

The pre match stuff was awful imo. 

[Zear0]

This the ref trying to even it up by giving that to Madrid? 

[tom27111]

What we really need is a 40 man brawl.

[Sly]

When are players going to get booked for having a go at the ref? 

[Foxdiamond]

Are Liverpool going to win another cup final without scoring a goal (pens)

[Arkie Bennett]

Just now, Sly said:

When are players going to get booked for having a go at the ref? 

But Respect...

[sishades]

Yawn........

[Guest ttfn]

Just now, st albans fox said:

This is the thing 

konate goes to play the ball but valverde gets there first and shoots towards goal.  Konate then makes contact with the ball from he shot and plays it against Fabinho - but neither contact is deliberate because of the play by valverde.  Walton says it’s simple but it isn’t. You could have gone either way on it.  Given that the lino gave offside, it seems reasonable to stick wit( the on field call . 

But the Lino gave it offside because he was offering an opinion on Benzema’s position relative to the defenders, not who the ball came off. He can’t see who it comes off from where he is. If the linesman puts his flag up the referee is going to go with him every time, just sticking with the onfield decision because there’s no clear and obvious error in this instance is stupid (although for my money this is a very clear error).

 

Its like our second disallowed goal v Brighton - the linesman is right to put his flag up to alert the ref to the fact that there is a player in an offside position but the VAR can see that the decision is not an objective offside one and that better and more pertinent information is available to the referee than whether there is a player in an offside position.