Eric Cantona - That Kick

[Trav Le Bleu]

Just been watching BBC's Fever Pitch documentary on the history of the Premier League and they're discussing the drop kick Cantina did on a Palace fan in the third season of the EPL and the outrage.

 

I've always felt the Palace fan (Matthew Simmonds) got what he had coming. At the time Cantona was vilified by the press, but I'm wondering how it would have played out in our taking the knee generation.

 

Obviously, Cantona shouldn't have, but entirely understandable.

Edited 13 September 2021 by Trav Le Bleu

[Vlad the Fox]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Just been watching BBC's Fever Pitch documentary on the history of the Premier League and they're discussing the drop kick Cantina did on a Palace fan in the third season of the EPL and the outrage.

 

I've always felt the Palace fan (Matthew Simmonds) got what he had coming. At the time Cantona was vilified by the press, but I'm wondering how it would have played out in our taking the knee generation.

 

Obviously, Cantona shouldn't have, but entirely understandable.

I think the punishment would be similar now, he overstepped the line massively. However I thoroughly enjoyed watching the vile racist gobshite getting a size ten studded boot planted into his fizzogg. 

[Sly]

1 hour ago, Vlad the Fox said:

I think the punishment would be similar now, he overstepped the line massively. However I thoroughly enjoyed watching the vile racist gobshite getting a size ten studded boot planted into his fizzogg. 

What did Dier get recently? 
 

I think the punishment would be far more lenient now. Especially as the clubs have more power. 

[Izzy]

When Cantona is asked "Do you regret what happened?" He replies "Yeah, I wish I'd kicked him harder" 

 

 

[Vlad the Fox]

6 hours ago, Sly said:

What did Dier get recently? 
 

I think the punishment would be far more lenient now. Especially as the clubs have more power. 

I don’t think he got much more than a telling off. However cantona jumped into the opposition fans and physically assaulted him (though from what I can remember the fans around him said he was vile). It’ll be more likely now that the fan would be able to sue him for thousands in compensation, claiming for all kinds of psychological and physical injuries.   

[Izzy]

BTW if you think what Cantona did was bad, check out the 'Malice at the Palace' documentary on Netflix.

 

The Indiana Pacers basketball team at Detroit in '06 and it kicks off big time. Players fighting with fans in the stands like I've never seen in sport before.

 

Great stuff... 

[Webbo]

Are people seriously defending assault? 

[The Horse's Mouth]

18 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Are people seriously defending assault? 

If you can't take the heat get out the kitchen webbo

[suffolk fox]

Did Eric DIER actually get anything?  Cant recall if he did.

[Milo]

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

Are people seriously defending assault? 

Not sure it’s quite as binary as that, mate.  
 

If I verbally abuse someone and they twat me, I can’t really complain. (And yes, speaking from experience)! 

[purpleronnie]

Sticks and stones may break my bones.....

[David Hankey]

Professionals should rise above, however, I don't think is Gaelic influence helped but that is no excuse.

[Webbo]

1 hour ago, Milo said:

Not sure it’s quite as binary as that, mate.  
 

If I verbally abuse someone and they twat me, I can’t really complain. (And yes, speaking from experience)! 

Legally yes you can. 

[RonnieTodger]

Fans think the safety of an advertising hoarding gives them immunity to say what they want without repercussions. Legally, Cantona was wrong but morally, players are well within their writes to lash out at some of the shit they receive. 

[MPH]

cantona is such a muppet. 

[Suzie the Fox]

Probably one for the unpopular opinions thread, but i loved Cantona (one of a very few non LCFC players i enjoyed watching) 

[The Horse's Mouth]

8 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Probably one for the unpopular opinions thread, but i loved Cantona (one of a very few non LCFC players i enjoyed watching) 

yeah really unpopular to like one of the most iconic players of English football 

[Suzie the Fox]

1 minute ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

yeah really unpopular to like one of the most iconic players of English football 

Well it more the fact he played for Man Utd, but yes i get your point  

[Fox92]

14 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Probably one for the unpopular opinions thread, but i loved Cantona (one of a very few non LCFC players i enjoyed watching) 

Even though I was only about 6 or 7 when he left (I think), I remember him being the first player I really liked.

[Super_horns]

10 hours ago, Izzy said:

When Cantona is asked "Do you regret what happened?" He replies "Yeah, I wish I'd kicked him harder" 

 

 

Don’t blame him hearing about the fan !

 

Sounded like a right old thug.

 

Obviously Cantona was wrong to react but certainly there were 2 at fault there .

 

Was Les Ferdinand right to say a black player would have got a jail term ?

 

 

Edited 14 September 2021 by Super_horns

[The Horse's Mouth]

9 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Don’t blame him hearing about the fan !

 

Sounded like a right old thug.

 

Obviously Cantona was wrong to react but certainly there were 2 at fault there .

 

Was Les Ferdinand right to say a black player would have got a jail term ?

 

 

That is an interesting comment, although I reckon if it was a black man with the name of cantona he'd have probably got off

[marbles]

9 hours ago, Webbo said:

Are people seriously defending assault? 

Yes.

This world has gotten to a place where people now feel they can say and do whatever they want to others, and then scream “I’ll sue” if they don’t like the response.

There needs to be accountability. You cross the line, you just may deserve a punch in the mouth.

 

At least here in the states, maybe allowing an outlet early on would curb some of the bottled up anger that results in school/work place violence.

 

[Bats8711]

9 hours ago, Izzy said:

BTW if you think what Cantona did was bad, check out the 'Malice at the Palace' documentary on Netflix.

 

The Indiana Pacers basketball team at Detroit in '06 and it kicks off big time. Players fighting with fans in the stands like I've never seen in sport before.

 

Great stuff... 

 

[Webbo]

3 minutes ago, marbles said:

Yes.

This world has gotten to a place where people now feel they can say and do whatever they want to others, and then scream “I’ll sue” if they don’t like the response.

There needs to be accountability. You cross the line, you just may deserve a punch in the mouth.

 

At least here in the states, maybe allowing an outlet early on would curb some of the bottled up anger that results in school/work place violence.

 

You should be allowed to hit people who say things you don't like? Seems a bit of a slippery slope, should someone be allowed to hit you if they don't like you? What about if the person doing the calling is bigger than you, are insults allowed then? 

[marbles]

7 minutes ago, Webbo said:

You should be allowed to hit people who say things you don't like? Seems a bit of a slippery slope, should someone be allowed to hit you if they don't like you? What about if the person doing the calling is bigger than you, are insults allowed then? 

Where is the line drawn?

Was it ok for people to tell parents of school shooting victims, that they were participating in a lie?  What about the ones who did it outside the funerals?

 

Kids used to be told to stand up for themselves.  Some did, some didn’t.

Now they are told to suppress it and forget it.  It’s not forgotten.  It festers and boils, until it explodes.  Shootings, stabbings, abuse, suicide.  These people hit a point where they feel no other way out.

 

In your perfect world, there are no antagonists.

In the real world, they are out there using their perceived immunity to find new ways to bully others.

 

 

 

 

Edited 14 September 2021 by marbles