turtmcfly Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 2 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Anyone else just think what's the point anymore You get someone good, someone will poach them soon enough. you get someone shit, you can't get rid of them. This isn't fun anymore. This caught me by surprise too.
Beechey Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ronnup said: 50 million doesn't get you 2 first team acquisitions, it gets you 2 more squad fillers It could get one 1st team replacement. Fofana cost us £30m Tielemans cost us £32m Justin cost us £8m Evans cost us £3m Castagne cost us £21m Soyuncu cost us £19m Ricardo cost us £18m Ndidi cost us £15m Maddison cost us £25m I'd consider all of them first team acquisitions, and could can easily mix/match a few of them to get to £50m. You can argue we do our best business in the £20m-£30m range. Edited 5 August 2022 by Beechey 3
foxinsocks Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 (edited) So... if we find a great player they get poached ( but for a lot of money) ...but.... if we buy dross then we cant get rid and the squad gets bloated and the wage bill spirals. This shows that we must take much more care in who we bring in. Puchase in haste.... The idea of a panic cb buy (repeating the vesty lesson) or even a goalie or maddison replacement fills me with dred. Edited 5 August 2022 by foxinsocks 1
AjcW Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 11 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ....first, it is not the same recruiting team in place!!! Second, Cags problems are all in his head, he has looked a lot more positive in pre-season, he has all the tools he needs to be a top-class CB, and he needs to not be afraid of taking on responsibility. Third, With the money in our coffers, are you suggesting we pay off their contracts because there are no other ways of guarantying them going out the door? On the third. If we GENUINELY cannot flog them in some way or another, why are we determined to be so nice and keep them as part of a squad? What happened to the days where people who hadn't performed and couldn't be sold had to play with the U21's? I'm sick of us being so nicey nice to everyone, every player, every club we deal with.
Number 6 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 (edited) My main issue with the transfer is that if we did it now we'd be short on time and it would be well known we just got a wad of cash. Negotiation would be difficult. If we have the transfers lined up then fair enough, but if we're going to be had on value on them all or panic buy like late last season then I'd be worried. I would have been more ok with it if the Kasper and Fofana moves had happened early on - as that would have at least given me confidence that there was a bit of a plan in place whereas now feels like trying to win a poker hand with a pair of twos. Edited 5 August 2022 by Number 6
SafewayFox Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Isn’t it scary and funny how this thread has got to 103 pages without any real changes? I’m genuinely gutted at the thought of not seeing Little Wes staying but as others have said if we can get £80m+, it only adds to our list of players who have used us as a stepping stone for other upcoming and exciting prospects! Please, please….recruitment team/Rudders, do not spunk a single £ on any PL dross particularly from the south coast.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 2 hours ago, An Sionnach said: So many on here trying to talk our best players out of the door. If we start the season badly ,where are they going to put the blame? The blame game is starting early this year but predictably the screaming for Rodgers's head will be centre stage - again. I will be quite happy now for our current squad to give us another season , they are more experienced and easily capable of a decent season. I think you'll find the forum has no influence and it's the players and or their agents doing the talking.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 If Lil Wes goes, Cags will come in and be phenomenal again. Tellin yoh 1
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 5 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 5 August 2022 If he goes for a record we are going to have sold 2 centre backs for £170m+... Absolutely mental 11
Blue ROI Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Would be a setback selling him now. I'd like if he stayed until January at least. We were a mess without him last season and the same could happen again. He'll be gone by next season though. An unbelievable talent.
bovril Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Will be gutted if he goes. Great player to watch, head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch at times. Such an absurd aspect of professional football that the best players are hoovered up by 10-12 European clubs and fans from all the other thousands of teams round the world need to be content with being a 'stepping stone'.
ARM1968 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 He only goes for £100 million. We will just have to deal with that unfortunately. THAT would be too much to turn down.
Beechey Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 1 minute ago, ARM1968 said: He only goes for £100 million. We will just have to deal with that unfortunately. THAT would be too much to turn down. I reckon we'll accept if we get £80m-£85m. 1
Bert Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Just now, Beechey said: I reckon we'll accept if we get £80m-£85m. We’d accept £85m. We must also remember that then brings the fee down to £68m. 2
Collymore Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 (edited) Thinking back to the Sevilla I got in a bottle neck in the East Stand when leaving so was forced to stay for 10 - 15 mins after the game. Wes came out and took a shirt or something across to someone at the bottom of the stand. Now at the time I didn't think too much of it but reflecting on it his whole demeanour and body language looked a little like that was the last time he was going to be on that pitch. Did anyone else see this? Edited 5 August 2022 by Collymore
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Bert said: We’d accept £85m. We must also remember that then brings the fee down to £68m. If that’s the case what is wrong with us at the minute; surely someone must be lined up as a replacement
ARM1968 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 1 minute ago, Bert said: We’d accept £85m. We must also remember that then brings the fee down to £68m. I don’t think we will accept £85 million. It isn’t enough frankly when everything is considered. We should hold out for £100 million. IF they really want him they will pay. 1
jv1 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 21 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: If Lil Wes goes, Cags will come in and be phenomenal again. Tellin yoh I actually dont completely disagree with that- will probably get pelters but when cags had a run of games with evans he was very very decent- up until that bournemouth meltdown which he has never recovered from- anyway I think it would be decent enough- would need a 3rd cb in though for competition even on loan
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 What doesn’t add up to me from Chelsea’s side is, if our interest was genuine for Colwill why have they gone and sent him on loan when they could have used him to reduce the fee?
Bert Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Just now, ARM1968 said: I don’t think we will accept £85 million. It isn’t enough frankly when everything is considered. We should hold out for £100 million. IF they really want him they will pay. Not that easy or simple when it’s that amount of money along with a players head that’s been turned.
moore_94 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bert said: We’d accept £85m. We must also remember that then brings the fee down to £68m. Surely it is 20% of profit rather than 20% of the whole fee to Saint-Etienne? So would be £75m I don't think you ever see the latter Edited 5 August 2022 by moore_94 3
coolhandfox Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 So with Cucurella (62m) that take Chelsea spending to 160m odd. Be surprised to see the spending another 85m, that's would be a whopping 245m in one window excluding other targets they have been linked with.
jv1 Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 6 minutes ago, Bert said: We’d accept £85m. We must also remember that then brings the fee down to £68m. Does it? I thought it was 20% of the profit- so 50m profit and 10 goes to st etienne- so we clear 75m
coolhandfox Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 Just now, moore_94 said: Surely it is 20% of profit rather than 20% of the whole fee to Saint-Etienne? I don't think you ever see the latter I'd have thought the same.
Fox1norfolk Posted 5 August 2022 Posted 5 August 2022 1 hour ago, Torten said: I’d just take the £70m The unfairness of the Premier League has now become a joke. The top 6 think nothing of spending around £200 million on players they can poach from the likes of LCFC etc. and it simply makes them stronger and the competition eager. Surely it’s time to install some control on transfers and spending, otherwise this uneven playing field will never change. Eventually the £billions of income the PL earns from around the world will start to disappear as the boredom factor will set in and any chance of upsets are completely eliminated. There is no competion anymore unless changes are made. 1
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