Stevosevic Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 5 hours ago, Lambert09 said: I think it’s worth noting that he was clearly playing in what brendan sees at the starting 11. Surely that means Brendan’s thinking about keeping him? Agreed. The second half team definitely looked like the 11 for Brentford to me. 1
Ric Flair Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Soumare just needs to learn to track players and positionally be stronger which is bizarre for a player who's strengths have appeared to be in a deep lying midfield role rather than going forward where my Nan has got more goals and assists in top level football. If he's going to put the work in to do the hard yards for the team then he will become an absolute beast. He's off though. 3
jv1 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 51 minutes ago, Shane said: Well thats just absolutely ridiculous- looks like blooming prime Gerrard- who is that lad because he isnt the same player I saw every time he played last year- I know the oppo were absolutely pants but still thats a very decent display from the lad- he obviously can play- if that was a youtube real for Sangare we would be all waxing lyrical and saying get him in asap- what a strange situation- looked like a park player all year at best and then rocks up in pre season looking about 2 stone lighter and covering the pitch like that- absolutely mental 2
SafewayFox Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 27 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Soumare just needs to learn to track players and positionally be stronger which is bizarre for a player who's strengths have appeared to be in a deep lying midfield role rather than going forward where my Nan has got more goals and assists in top level football. If he's going to put the work in to do the hard yards for the team then he will become an absolute beast. He's off though. 100% this. However, I would stress that a lot on here appear to have glossed over 1) quality of the opposition 2) pre-season matches are NOT the same intensity. I still can’t get over the volume of PL CM’s ghosting past him with zero tracking back and until that hideous trait is eradicated from his game, it’s a no from me. 1
scinnell Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Cut our losses. He did not show this enough last season. Get our money back while we can and start again. 2
Sly Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 1 minute ago, scinnell said: Cut our losses. He did not show this enough last season. Get our money back while we can and start again. Imagine if we’d taken this approach with raw players like Mahrez and Vardy. Sometimes, people need time. 1
taupe Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sly said: Imagine if we’d taken this approach with raw players like Mahrez and Vardy. Sometimes, people need time. Indeed. But in our current situation, do we have time to give him? Edit: my point is; if there is an offer on the table, and the club want to get things moving on the 'squad refresh' transfer front, do you turn that offer down? Yes, Soumare may come good, settle in and starting playing - and maybe he won't. Do we have the luxury of waiting to find out? Edited 21 July 2022 by taupe 2
mozartfox Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Personally, he is not at the front of my tree felling list. I do believe there is a good player in there. Mendy and Hamza should be shipped out first in the dream window scenario. 1
scinnell Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 3 minutes ago, Sly said: Imagine if we’d taken this approach with raw players like Mahrez and Vardy. Sometimes, people need time. We are in a position where we do not have the finances to give players the time. The squad needs trimming and we can get £15+ million- no brainer. A pre season game against Hull will not sway my decision.
taupe Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 2 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Personally, he is not at the front of my tree felling list. I get that. Mine neither. Probably not the club's either. We are were we are and maybe tough calls need to be made. 1
SafewayFox Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 3 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Personally, he is not at the front of my tree felling list. I do believe there is a good player in there. Mendy and Hamza should be shipped out first in the dream window scenario. Mendy before Soumare? I’m not Mendy’s biggest fan but he came into the PL starting 11 end of last season and our results were positive. Soumare showed NUMEROUS times that when he plays that our midfield offer ZERO protection to our back 4. Hamza, however, I totally agree with. 1 1
VLC86 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 3 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: I watched the highlights of the Hull game and Soumare looked a lot leaner than last season, and perhaps more effective as a result. I really think we should give him another go, if he wants to stay of course (which he reportedly doesn’t). It’s all the press ups he’s been doing. 1
VLC86 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 17 minutes ago, Sly said: Imagine if we’d taken this approach with raw players like Mahrez and Vardy. Sometimes, people need time. Depends on their attitude/desire doesn’t it. Vardy and Mahrez stayed because they demonstrated they wanted it and worked hard for it. If Brendan hasn’t identified this and is just getting rid based on nothing at all then we have bigger problems than just shit recruitment. I don’t believe that’s the case and would trust Brendan has made this assessment before giving in, his ego wouldn’t allow that. 1
StinckleyFox Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 1 hour ago, Shane said: Get serious pogba vibes from this video, just from the way he moves, passes etc. maybe that's also where his lack of effort comes from!
Tanya Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: Depends on their attitude/desire doesn’t it. Vardy and Mahrez stayed because they demonstrated they wanted it and worked hard for it. If Brendan hasn’t identified this and is just getting rid based on nothing at all then we have bigger problems than just shit recruitment. I don’t believe that’s the case and would trust Brendan has made this assessment before giving in, his ego wouldn’t allow that. I agree. I think attitude and applications comes into the club's evaluation as well. Bouba doesn't seem to be learning from mistakes, nor does he get determined to make a point when he comes back into the side after being left out. I also struggle to see what he really does for the team besides let runners go past him into dangerous positions in our box. It's the laziness that drives me up the wall. I can't forgive that. We have KDH who provides a similar role. He's suited to the French leagues, he can start again, we get our money back, everyone wins.
taupe Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Just watching his shot again, the technique is there and excellent. It wasn't easy, a half chance from an awkward ball. He did really well to get a controlled effort on target and made the keeper save. Many other players would have put that in row Z. 2
Claridge Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 He doesnt have a man anywhere near him most of the time, it was a pre season game. Sell
VLC86 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 13 minutes ago, Tanya said: I agree. I think attitude and applications comes into the club's evaluation as well. Bouba doesn't seem to be learning from mistakes, nor does he get determined to make a point when he comes back into the side after being left out. I also struggle to see what he really does for the team besides let runners go past him into dangerous positions in our box. It's the laziness that drives me up the wall. I can't forgive that. We have KDH who provides a similar role. He's suited to the French leagues, he can start again, we get our money back, everyone wins. Agree with all of the above. We/the club have seen enough already and if it’s not up to our standard and we can get rid we need to before this becomes a £40m write off.
Kuredufox Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 15 minutes ago, Tanya said: I agree. I think attitude and applications comes into the club's evaluation as well. Bouba doesn't seem to be learning from mistakes, nor does he get determined to make a point when he comes back into the side after being left out. I also struggle to see what he really does for the team besides let runners go past him into dangerous positions in our box. It's the laziness that drives me up the wall. I can't forgive that. We have KDH who provides a similar role. He's suited to the French leagues, he can start again, we get our money back, everyone wins. I thought he put in alit of effort last night one particular chase back and tackle on the by line was just what has been asked. I believe we wol regret seeing in thd long run.
Popular Post kingkisnorbo Posted 21 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 21 July 2022 The U-turn on here because the kid had a decent half an hour against a probably relegated championship side in a friendly 4 6
VLC86 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 6 minutes ago, Kuredufox said: I thought he put in alit of effort last night one particular chase back and tackle on the by line was just what has been asked. I believe we wol regret seeing in thd long run. 1 half of football against lower end Championship opposition while in talks about returning to his home country doesn’t represent a fair basis to form an opinion.
VLC86 Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 (edited) Just now, kingkisnorbo said: The U-turn on here because the kid had a decent half an hour against a probably relegated championship side in a friendly Exactly, blows my mind. I’d rather we get our money back and regret selling than not get our money back and regret losing £40m. Edited 21 July 2022 by Costock_Fox
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Last night I felt as if we got a glimpse of the old Bouba we know and love 1
woznotwos Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Anyone else see when he shared a couple of neat passes had acres to run into for the return and didn’t? Just me? 1
FoxinNotts Posted 21 July 2022 Posted 21 July 2022 Just now, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Last night I felt as if we got a glimpse of the old Bouba we know and love TBH, I've never really been impressed by him. If we get anything near £15m offered for him, we should sell. same Theroy goes for Hamza, Perez, Vestegaard. if we can get anything semi decent in terms of offers, we should just sell. Getting them four off the age bill, for me, would be massive, allowing us to bring in two more of our own.
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