Rodgers opens up on Leicester City transfer struggles but 'won't go to war' with club

[Aus Fox]

29 minutes ago, Bptiger said:

I hope I am wrong but I see us losing WES , YOURI  and Maddison , right at the end of the window with no time to get players in , HOW the hell has it come to this , claiming to want to be a top four team , to maybe fighting to avoid relegation. These rich clubs can sit back and wait to the last minute then throw u can’t refuse price and ur season is finished before it starts it wrong . 

There is no way in the world we let all three go this summer. Not in a million years! 
Maddison will not go to Newcastle, they simply can’t afford to pay what our valuation is and they aren’t big enough for him to ruin his reputation by forcing a move through. 
Youri will remain up in the air right to the last minute and with his contact situation, any late bids at the right price may see him leave. 
With Chelsea already having spent quite a bit this summer, I really can’t see them coming up with the money for Fofana. That said, I think if he has a decent season, he will be off to a major club next summer.

[Aus Fox]

17 minutes ago, Ricey said:

What really worries me is that most of our squad are either wanting a move away, being touted around as unwanted players or being linked to other clubs.

 

I can only think of Evans, Ricardo, Ndidi, Dewsbury-Hall, Albrighton and Iheanacho who don’t fall into any of those categories (but it wouldn’t surprise me if we are also trying to offload the latter).

 

Hardly the makings of a tight, motivated squad.

Has anyone actually come out and said they want a move away? There’s a lot of speculation, but it’s not like the Mahrez situation where he really tried to push through a move.

I think there are a few players we’d like to move on, and we have some top level players who will always attract big bids. I wouldn’t worry to much.

[Bptiger]

23 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

There is no way in the world we let all three go this summer. Not in a million years! 
Maddison will not go to Newcastle, they simply can’t afford to pay what our valuation is and they aren’t big enough for him to ruin his reputation by forcing a move through. 
Youri will remain up in the air right to the last minute and with his contact situation, any late bids at the right price may see him leave. 
With Chelsea already having spent quite a bit this summer, I really can’t see them coming up with the money for Fofana. That said, I think if he has a decent season, he will be off to a major club next summer.

What u have said is right, but if these rich clubs do come in with massive offers I can’t see us saying no , that’s what worries me . 

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, Bptiger said:

What u have said is right, but if these rich clubs do come in with massive offers I can’t see us saying no , that’s what worries me . 

Top has to say no.  If not then we are flirting with relegstion.

[Tom12345]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62378757.amp

 

Here he goes again managing expectations and dumping down our mentality. Rather than believe he is saying we are going to be shit.

 

This squad is full of players and has more than a full squad because he wasted a lot of money signing players that he very quickly does not use. Come on Rodgers - own up to problems you create yourself. Not saying not to solve it by selling, but stop moaning please.

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, Tom12345 said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62378757.amp

 

Here he goes again managing expectations and dumping down our mentality. Rather than believe he is saying we are going to be shit.

 

This squad is full of players and has more than a full squad because he wasted a lot of money signing players that he very quickly does not use. Come on Rodgers - own up to problems you create yourself. Not saying not to solve it by selling, but stop moaning please.

If you are finding fault in that particular interview, I would kindly suggest you actually have a perception problem of your own.

[John12345]

I'm a bit anxious about the new season. Rodgers is no miracle worker and despite the little run at the end last year that got us 8th, you can see there are real issues, kasper off, league has got more competitive,  no new players, others likely to go. Might do well just to survive. Oh well guess need some perspective. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

8 hours ago, Bptiger said:

I hope I am wrong but I see us losing WES , YOURI  and Maddison , right at the end of the window with no time to get players in , HOW the hell has it come to this , claiming to want to be a top four team , to maybe fighting to avoid relegation. These rich clubs can sit back and wait to the last minute then throw u can’t refuse price and ur season is finished before it starts it wrong . 

Nah. This won’t happen

 

Maddison won’t go for £50m

 

Can see Youri leaving at the last minute.

 

And if we were to get £80m+ (Cash) for Fofana we can’t turn that down 

Edited 3 August 2022 by The Year Of The Fox

[LcFc_Smiv]

6 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62378757.amp

 

Here he goes again managing expectations and dumping down our mentality. Rather than believe he is saying we are going to be shit.

 

This squad is full of players and has more than a full squad because he wasted a lot of money signing players that he very quickly does not use. Come on Rodgers - own up to problems you create yourself. Not saying not to solve it by selling, but stop moaning please.

Im quick to beat Rodgers with a stick but even I don't see anything wrong here. He's fully aware we live within our means and the board won't jeopardise that by spending money we don't have. I take his comments to be about us struggling for success in this coming season to be an acknowledgement that we won't be strong contenders for top 6. I guess the only issue is, the longer we have without European football the harder it becomes to challenge again.

[Happy Fox]

I don’t see Brendan lasting the season tbh, the players will probably boot him out.

[oxtonfox]

I think we’ll turn down all offers for our key players. One who will probably go is Kasper. His Dad went to Sporting Lisbon late in his career so I can see Kasper doing the same at Nice. 

[wattolcfc]

I’d like to think Rodgers realises he should never have come out with the rebuild comment. What worries me the most is the fact that for the last 12 months, he seems to have put a negative spin on things.

This obviously was highlighted by lambasting the players post Forest. The comments that we are over-achieving irked me last season, the fact we had two 5th place finishes and won the FA Cup, shows we have a great core of a first team and that the squad effectively wasn’t strong enough to cope with injuries. The negative mindset will eventually (if it hasn’t already) rub off on the players and if we get off to a bad start, could be potentially catastrophic, especially with rumours around our players leaving. 

At the end of the day, Rodgers will live and die by his own actions but recent negativity, coupled with the denial for so long that we were bad at set pieces and not forgetting some of the poor signings he has made, could see him gone by May.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

7 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

If you are finding fault in that particular interview, I would kindly suggest you actually have a perception problem of your own.

I found the interview refreshingly honest. I understand Rodgers is frustrated, and I am sure a whole bunch of people at the club are frustrated about the finances, and it is good to hear they are willing to say it out loud. I can't believe there are people speaking about him "lowering expectations": He said we probably won't be "challenging for silverware" but are still targeting European places! I think given our transfer window, that is still ambitious. I will say that if we make the quarterfinals in either of the cups, no one will mention that first point again, though.

[Collymore]

I'm not sure if it is a Rodgers thing or just the way the game has gone in general but it seems increasingly more acceptable for players to nonchalantly let everyone know they want out of the club. 

 

In troubled times like this I ask "What would Nigel do?"

 

I think Youri and Wes would be playing in the U23s sporting fresh headbutt marks. Maddison would sign a new contract not wanting to go down that route. 

 

You'd have 11 players on the pitch all 100% focused on Leicester that's for sure under Nige. Anything less you'd be on the scrap heap. 

 

 

Edited 3 August 2022 by Collymore

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

28 minutes ago, wattolcfc said:

I’d like to think Rodgers realises he should never have come out with the rebuild comment. What worries me the most is the fact that for the last 12 months, he seems to have put a negative spin on things.

This obviously was highlighted by lambasting the players post Forest. The comments that we are over-achieving irked me last season, the fact we had two 5th place finishes and won the FA Cup, shows we have a great core of a first team and that the squad effectively wasn’t strong enough to cope with injuries. The negative mindset will eventually (if it hasn’t already) rub off on the players and if we get off to a bad start, could be potentially catastrophic, especially with rumours around our players leaving. 

At the end of the day, Rodgers will live and die by his own actions but recent negativity, coupled with the denial for so long that we were bad at set pieces and not forgetting some of the poor signings he has made, could see him gone by May.

The players deserved to be lambasted after Forest, since they had their petards handed to them by a Championship club. Several of the players said so themselves.

 

He never said the club was "overachieving" -- what he said was that the fact we had two fifth place finishes didn't mean we suddenly had the same financial weight as the Top 6, and that fans needed to understand that we couldn't do the same things in the transfer market as them. He is correct.

[wattolcfc]

1 minute ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

The players deserved to be lambasted after Forest, since they had their petards handed to them by a Championship club. Several of the players said so themselves.

 

He never said the club was "overachieving" -- what he said was that the fact we had two fifth place finishes didn't mean we suddenly had the same financial weight as the Top 6, and that fans needed to understand that we couldn't do the same things in the transfer market as them. He is correct.

I never said they shouldn’t have been lambasted.

He may have not used the word “overachieving” - although I’d have to re-watch interviews, but he definitely suggested that we, as fans essentially were lucky to be so fortunate.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

3 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

 

And if we were to get £80m+ (Cash) for Fofana we can’t turn that down 

Depends on when that offer is made. It isn't profitable if after paying off St. Etienne, we end up spending 50 million on a replacement. Five years or four years left on a contract, the club controls the narrative, and selling him next year just makes much better sense, and we will get the same amount of money unless he pulls a Youri.

[Twitcher]

12 hours ago, Bptiger said:

I hope I am wrong but I see us losing WES , YOURI  and Maddison , right at the end of the window with no time to get players in , HOW the hell has it come to this , claiming to want to be a top four team , to maybe fighting to avoid relegation. These rich clubs can sit back and wait to the last minute then throw u can’t refuse price and ur season is finished before it starts it wrong . 

And yet some guy started a thread the other day about the club being in a bit of a crisis, and he got pelters from everyone.

It must be unsettling for the club as a whole, players, owner, manager, and definitely the fans.

The BBC today has Fofana, Vardy, Maddison, and Barnes all being linked with other clubs monitoring/offering for them. And of course there's Schmeichel as well.

I think it's time the club made a rallying statement of some sort. Not easy to make the no-one's going anywhere statement in case silly money comes in for someone, and then you can't backtrack. However it needs something, or we just look like skint muppets.

Edit: Forgot Tielemans as well as part of the merry-go-round.

Edited 3 August 2022 by Twitcher

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

1 minute ago, wattolcfc said:

I never said they shouldn’t have been lambasted.

He may have not used the word “overachieving” - although I’d have to re-watch interviews, but he definitely suggested that we, as fans essentially were lucky to be so fortunate.

Here is the full quote, and there is nothing about "overachieving" but a mention that we are club "who can hopefully challenge towards the top of the league" and the only "confusion" is people thinking we are a club "that can spend endless pots of money."

 

I seriously don't see how people twisted this quote around to mean he was saying we were "lucky" and "overachieving."

 

“We have ambitions here and it was the reason I came to Leicester City. I didn’t come to just go through the motions, I came here to work with a squad of players who can hopefully challenge towards the top of the league. That was the big reason I came. But it’s all about the timing. If the opportunity isn’t there and availability and affordability of a player isn’t there, we are not a club that can spend endless pots of money. Where the confusion comes is that because of where we’ve been challenging in these last few seasons, it’s been deemed that maybe we are one of those clubs. Our ambition is to be there but it’s always going to be a challenge for us. We need to have our best players available, and if they’re not, it’s difficult for us, and that’s been this season.”

[Collymore]

2 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

The players deserved to be lambasted after Forest, since they had their petards handed to them by a Championship club. Several of the players said so themselves

The problem was the way Rodgers did it just looked liked he wanted to save himself and it was all about protecting his image. 

 

I don't apologise for bringing the lord (NFP) on two consecutive posts - what did he do when the players put in a shit show like that? He'd protect them and savage them at the same time - a glare at the reporter, a short pause and "Don't you worry about that!" 

 

You knew heads had rolled, headbutts had been thrown but he had a amazing way of still protecting his players. 

 

He'd then turn on the reporter for good measure. 

[Ric Flair]

22 minutes ago, Collymore said:

I'm not sure if it is a Rodgers thing or just the way the game has gone in general but it seems increasingly more acceptable for players to nonchalantly let everyone know they want out of the club. 

 

In troubled times like this I ask "What would Nigel do?"

 

I think Youri and Wes would be playing in the U23s sporting fresh headbutt marks. Maddison would sign a new contract not wanting to go down that route. 

 

You'd have 11 players on the pitch all 100% focused on Leicester that's for sure under Nige. Anything less you'd be on the scrap heap. 

 

 

Pearson was very fortunate that he wasn't really in the situation where his players wanted out because big money was on the table for them.

[Stinkenzo]

Bit of a side note... Of course there are benefits to our new training ground that maybe we won't see for a good few years yet and it's definitely something to be proud of, but does no one else think we've gone a bit over the top with it all? I know it's not really the direct cause of our issues at the minute but with these supposed wantaway players, it's all good and well using it to attract players but I don't think it will ever be enough to stop our best talent having their heads turned by the "big six" 

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

2 minutes ago, Stinky said:

Bit of a side note... Of course there are benefits to our new training ground that maybe we won't see for a good few years yet and it's definitely something to be proud of, but does no one else think we've gone a bit over the top with it all? I know it's not really the direct cause of our issues at the minute but with these supposed wantaway players, it's all good and well using it to attract players but I don't think it will ever be enough to stop our best talent having their heads turned by the "big six" 

Given the amount of money spent on it, I can understand going a bit over the top over it. It is also a lot better than the facilities of some of our more direct competitors outside the Big 6.

 

I don't think there will be a time where we can avoid heads being turned (barring a revolution in football governance, or an unimaginable run of form), but look at Youri, Fofana, and Maddison. Let's say we lose them all in the next 12 months. What did they get at Leicester? Really nice facilities, European football, an FA Cup and a Community Shield. If you are a player looking for a stepping stone to the Big Boys, Leicester seems like a pretty good option compared to Everton or Wolves (or Newcastle).

[CosbehFox]

12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Pearson was very fortunate that he wasn't really in the situation where his players wanted out because big money was on the table for them.

Joe Mattock - now that was fun with Nige 🤣

[Stinkenzo]

15 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Given the amount of money spent on it, I can understand going a bit over the top over it. It is also a lot better than the facilities of some of our more direct competitors outside the Big 6.

 

I don't think there will be a time where we can avoid heads being turned (barring a revolution in football governance, or an unimaginable run of form), but look at Youri, Fofana, and Maddison. Let's say we lose them all in the next 12 months. What did they get at Leicester? Really nice facilities, European football, an FA Cup and a Community Shield. If you are a player looking for a stepping stone to the Big Boys, Leicester seems like a pretty good option compared to Everton or Wolves (or Newcastle).

I agree but with the amount of money spent on the training ground, is our ambition really just to be best of the rest and a stepping stone to better things? I'm sure with the owners it's not but as you say I can't ever see us being any bigger than we are now