Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) This squad should be doing better than 8th, Rodgers out blah, blah, blah....... 8 weeks late this squad is going to get relegated blah, blah, blah.. Classic foxestalk. Edited 19 July 2022 by coolhandfox 8
messerschmitt Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Or that couldn’t. I get it’s frustrating to not strengthen, more for the purpose of more competition for me, but we should never put the clubs future at risk for more signings. I actually think we will get 3-4 in, but only later in the window when the dominos start to fall Good point, new signings don't always equate to strengthening. I don't think last summers signings strengthened us at all. I could argue that they weakened us in terms of filling squad places and increasing wages.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 49 minutes ago, chapero82 said: So even he is saying we are skint! I think we expected to shift tielemans and maybe 1 or 2 others by now to allow a bit of a refresh but it hasn't materialized yet so we wait and see what happens. Still plenty of time to go. 1
chapero82 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 16 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: I think we expected to shift tielemans and maybe 1 or 2 others by now to allow a bit of a refresh but it hasn't materialized yet so we wait and see what happens. Still plenty of time to go. 45 days for Rudkin to negotiate all the sales and buys? not a chance!
Popular Post Micky Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 19 July 2022 We are not skint kids... The issue is having too many players and needing to shift some first.... 4 2
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 19 July 2022 3 minutes ago, Micky said: We are not skint kids... The issue is having too many players and needing to shift some first.... I genuinely think this needs to be pinned to the top of every thread 7 5
majaco Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 Making too many signings could be a big mistake. Room needs to be left for players coming through. Long term planning is important. We want at least 6 out. Then we probably only want 3 in: cb, midfield, rw. Next summer, we will want 3or 4 as players come to the end of their contracts. If all goes well, we start the 2025 season with a squad that has 6-8 players that have come from the academy. 2
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 We need to start getting nasty with some of this deadwood. Can't we get Paul Sykes or Lenny McLean in to intimidate them and get them out? 1
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 45 minutes ago, Micky said: We are not skint kids... The issue is having too many players and needing to shift some first.... Do we have that many more players this summer than last? I get we need some gone but we always do and they don't go until later in the window but that doesn't usually stop us getting our main target/s. There is evidently financial struggles but I agree we aren't just suddenly on the breadline.
Chrysalis Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 Player budget includes transfer fees and wages, the wages are extremely high. So yes we are effectively broke until we offload players. We gambled on securing CL football and lost. 1
Chrysalis Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 On 17/07/2022 at 15:59, Ashlar86 said: Pretty sure most lcfc fans since the premier league win became delusional. From the very start vichai said the club will be ran sustainably . We are not gonna be one of these clubs who goes bust or just gets inside ffp. Also its a buissness extension of king power in essence and in football theres very little profit so i cannot blame them for not opening the cheque book untill players have gone . Didnt we also loose congerton to atalanta and we are or have recruited southamptons but he cannot start till after the transfer window We already are just inside FFP.
jayfox26 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: We need to start getting nasty with some of this deadwood. Can't we get Paul Sykes or Lenny McLean in to intimidate them and get them out? I'd like to say their agents must be shit and should be getting them moves, but their agents know they won't get paid as well as they do here and they can just run their contracts down and then move somewhere on a free and get a decent sign on fee 1
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 11 hours ago, smudgerfox said: And presumably we’re all supposed to forget that the manager himself said we needed a squad refresh and a different priofile of player to defend set pieces - that’s al history now is it? We are all intelligent enough to read between the lines that that ideal scenario may not come to fruition for good reasons. Therefore, yes allow it to be consigned to history.
Simoken Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 9 minutes ago, TaggertvsWise said: We are all intelligent enough to read between the lines that that ideal scenario may not come to fruition for good reasons. Therefore, yes allow it to be consigned to history. good one. you funny bastard
smudgerfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 42 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Do we have that many more players this summer than last? I get we need some gone but we always do and they don't go until later in the window but that doesn't usually stop us getting our main target/s. There is evidently financial struggles but I agree we aren't just suddenly on the breadline. I think the risk is they don’t go or they go on loan and you’re still paying them - in part - to be say at Torino or West Brom. Very quickly you’re into financing a group of players who can’t play - the squads too big to include them - have no future here - but won’t leave. That happened to a lesser extent last season - Praet on loan, Mendy omitted and Benkovic included, with no real hope of playing. This is why you can’t look further than last summer for the source of our problems. Five new players, no departures - three out of the five a complete waste of money but on contracts which will make them unsaleable. One part of Brendan’s sons agency and hoping to become an agent himself, another an international teammate of Kasper and part of one of the worst Prem defences ever, the other highly rated in France playing the 6 role whom BR immediately announces he’s going to make into an 8. Keystone Cops stuff - the clubs reputation for clever recruitment in tatters… 2
chapero82 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Micky said: We are not skint kids... The issue is having too many players and needing to shift some first.... BR literally says we have financial issues
chapero82 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 It shows no ambition to future prospects the way things are. Why would anybody want to come here right now?
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 15 hours ago, st albans fox said: Has anyone posted this Would be interested in seeing where that money went, the vast majority of new signings have been covered by sales/prize money and the stadium/seagrave were both funded by loans against future TV earnings.
coolhandfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 From a accounting POV transfer fees aren't a massive issue if you spend a 100m and if you give all the new players 5 years contract. The 100m is amortised as 20m a season. The issue is wages.
Chrysalis Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Would be interested in seeing where that money went, the vast majority of new signings have been covered by sales/prize money and the stadium/seagrave were both funded by loans against future TV earnings. 100m converting debt to equity when in Championship and of course loans can be considered investments.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: 100m converting debt to equity when in Championship and of course loans can be considered investments. Like I say, I wonder where it's gone seeing as we're run as "self sufficient".
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, chapero82 said: It shows no ambition to future prospects the way things are. Why would anybody want to come here right now? Great owners, great manager, great squad, recent track record of success, young international call ups, full stadium, best training ground in Europe, playing in the Premier League.
Dahnsouff Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, chapero82 said: It shows no ambition to future prospects the way things are. Why would anybody want to come here right now? Why do you think that? The training ground is fantastic for future prospects.
turlo Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 54 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: 6Like I say, I wonder where it's gone seeing as we're run as "self sufficient". Not sure but a big increase in owner funding via loans from KP & Top is showing on the last 2 years accounts. There was specific mention of working capital loans in the last two accounts, which could've been to supplement reduced revenue during covid.
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: We need to start getting nasty with some of this deadwood. Can't we get Paul Sykes or Lenny McLean in to intimidate them and get them out? Just look at Spurs and what they've done with their deadwood players. They have not taken Winks, Reguilon, Lo Celso and Ndombele with the squad for pre season training to South Korea. Reading online Conte had apparently told them they aren't in his plans for next season and to find other clubs. Think Spurs are using the hard stick and it will abit embarrassing for these players when they later they will train with the others when they come come back knowing that the manager thinks they are s*** and everyone knows they are unwanted. While our deadwood is given the soft soft treatment eg. playing water volleyball at Seagrave etc 3
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