Post Forest (H) Rodgers Poll

[nnfox]

He has a long way to go to win me over again.  Last night was a step in the right direction, but let's not kid ourselves - Forest were very, very poor.  If Forest don't finish bottom, I'd be very surprised.   I'd add as well that we were very good in the first half, second half not so great (might put it down to game management, but we didn't create or look like we wanted to create as much in the second half).

 

The team needs to play with the first half's style and energy over a run of 7 or 8 games, including against some top teams.

[Guest kristianity77]

I'm still out despite the win.  If he can churn out 6 wins in a row to follow the 6 defeats then I might reconsider.

 

Yesterday's result whilst nice means nothing.  A stopped clock is right twice a day.

[oadby.fox]

Like others have said, Forest were truly terrible and on a different night, they score two or three and we lose that game. 
 

Still out as a win against them doesn’t do enough to mitigate the absolute crap we have been served up for about 22 months. 
 

If he can win the next 10 in a row I’ll move back over to the fence. The bare minimum should be winning the next 3. 

[Hammo]

We win at home to the worst team in the division, are still deeply embedded in the relegation zone, and suddenly in some people's eyes he's gone from Out to In?

 

Heaven help us.

 

If we're mid-table - or approaching mid-table - by the World Cup break, then it will be time to re-assess his credentials. But for now he is definitely still living on borrowed time and extremely lucky to be in a job.

 

 

[weller54]

I don't just want him out..

I want him out out!!

[Onions]

Still in, have always been, there’s simply not a better option, and yesterday showed once again what we are capable of, it just needs to be more consistent. 

 

I’ve never understood the obsession with wanting change. 

[LCFCJohn]

8 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

The state of this poll. Even if he wins the next 5, I'd still vote out. What that run would do is make me happy to wait longer for it to happen as we'd have created a small buffer and his departure wouldn't be as desperately needed. As long as he's the manager, we'll still have all the same issues and he's shown he will never adapt to the them. 

 

I guess the gist of it is that it's not only an opinion based on the results, it's the unresolved deficiencies and general trend under his management that makes me sure removing him is the best for the future of the club.

This sums it up for me too. I will always want him gone now as I can’t stand the man he is and the behaviour he has shown. Not to mention the scarily fast decline on the pitch.

 

However, if results improve and performances to an extent, it will be a less urgent and desperate situation.

[Happy Fox]

That result was the bare minimum, let’s see if we can produce that on Saturday and go on a winning run. With the players we have we should be mid table at the bare minimum.

[dannythefox]

Let’s say we finished 10th. I still wouldn’t trust Rodger’s to spend our money come the summer I also think everyone has there time at a club and his has gone, it’s his longest time at a club that should tell you something.  
 

Also keeps playing Ward through his stubbornness and has frozen out Cags. 
 

It’s time for a change. 

[OatcakeFox]

He’s been on the ropes, has snuck a left hook which has dazed us for a bit, but unless he follows up with a flurry of telling shots, our heads will clear and he’ll be out for the count.

[adejo92]

A win against arguably the only team in the league worse than ourselves doesn't change my mind.

 

The atmosphere and Tifo had more credit for that performance than Rodgers tactics.

[taupe]

My big concern with Rodgers is his preferred style of play. I think it's high risk. He likes the high press, players committed well up the pitch. He likes to try and stop the opposition having time on the ball to build, and he likes to do that in the opposition half, almost in the final third. To me, it's sometimes an insanely high press - you can see 4 blue shirts (i.e. us) hassling their defenders towards their corner flag. 

 

Against poor sides (like Forest) it works and we look good but if a team can beat the press, or simply ping a long ball (as Forest did) and you've got us turned and running back. Then we can be scrambling. We've Evans camped in the centre circle without a chance in hell of out pacing a fleet footed attacker. Cags would be better suited but he's just as likely to concede a penalty. And when you have a keeper undecided as to whether to come or go, then it's luck of the draw. You're relying on them fluffing the chance.

 

With it being a game reliant on high energy, you're dependant on your players running themselves into the ground. (Aside: I thought Youri was looking decidedly immobile from the word go last night) You need a decent subs bench to maintain that tempo for 90 minutes - and we don't really have that.

 

No, for me, Rodgers doesn't have the squad depth for his preferred style of play and he is seemingly unwilling to cut his cloth. Personally, I think we will continue to be found out if Rodgers persists with his game. I hope I'm wrong, I want him to show me I'm wrong. I'll happily acknowledge I'm a know-nothing if he does.

 

 

 

Edited 4 October 2022 by taupe

[Beachyboy]

1 hour ago, nnfox said:

He has a long way to go to win me over again.  Last night was a step in the right direction, but let's not kid ourselves - Forest were very, very poor.  If Forest don't finish bottom, I'd be very surprised.   I'd add as well that we were very good in the first half, second half not so great (might put it down to game management, but we didn't create or look like we wanted to create as much in the second half).

 

The team needs to play with the first half's style and energy over a run of 7 or 8 games, including against some top teams.

I have seen us play like that in other games, a Brighton 3-0 win a villa 4-0 win, if the clean sheet was the priority I'm happy with that, as that will be of more importance for the season as a whole then trying to score another one or two and possibly conceeding.

[Beachyboy]

1 hour ago, kristianity77 said:

I'm still out despite the win.  If he can churn out 6 wins in a row to follow the 6 defeats then I might reconsider.

 

Yesterday's result whilst nice means nothing.  A stopped clock is right twice a day.

I'm not that harsh 4 more wins back to back with two clean sheets would have me back on side, it's clear that Top doesn't wanna sack him.

[Amin]

Would I sack him this morning? No. But if he doesn't pick up 14 points from the next 7 league games and show that he is capable of taking us back to the fringes of Europe, then I would want him gone before we resume after the World Cup.  

[Sharpe's Fox]

He should and will get the next game. The players are still playing for him and we have a reasonable set of fixtures. Having said that he's still done here and if the board aren't shortlisting managers right now then they're idiots.

[Beachyboy]

21 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Let’s say we finished 10th. I still wouldn’t trust Rodger’s to spend our money come the summer I also think everyone has there time at a club and his has gone, it’s his longest time at a club that should tell you something.  
 

Also keeps playing Ward through his stubbornness and has frozen out Cags. 
 

It’s time for a change. 

If he finished 10th I guess there's more of a chance of an offer elsewhere, an that's where we could mutually part ways without a pay off possibly?

[fuchsntf]

9 hours ago, Captain... said:

Let's just enjoy the win, one swallow doesn't make a summer, but tonight was a good start in winning fans back round. Collapse against Bournemouth though and any goodwill is out the window. Win our next 4 games however and I'm back on the Brendan bus.

I am looking for 4-5 results & performances.The climb might be a slow process...and not a big Spring into

top half...

Players shouldn't look too far ahead..

A..First get out of bottom 3.

B...Then 15-14th. If the tide is with us a

C..step into 11-8th..

But A is our first concentrated target.

B..a challenge before W.cup begins.

Edited 4 October 2022 by fuchsntf

[volpeazzurro]

All round a very decent performance tonight albeit against a very poor side.

The team selection was sensible with the exception of Ward perhaps. 

 

Most notably though was instead of the slow incessant backwards sideways pissing around at the back, we allowed our midfielders to press their defence like we used to and put them under pressure. For a change, it looked like a team trying to win rather than not lose.

 

The mindset and will to attack and press was so noticably different it was almost as if the players had told Rodgers to bollocks and play independently of him. We started this way two seasons running and amassed a load of points to get in a lofty league position only for Rodgers to put his egotistical 'I am a master tactician' head on. He really isn't, he still needs to go, don't fool yourselves, he's still a malevolent force. What it does prove though is, as we knew all along, despite Rodgers bleating about signings, we still have players that are far better than mere relegation fodder. They will have a spring in their step today and rightly so, just keep the Dark Lord locked away in a box and nowhere the players until the weekend then let him out, stick his suit on him and put a big wadge of gaffar tape over his big useless gob!

Edited 4 October 2022 by volpeazzurro

[David Hankey]

Terrific win, terrific goals but he'll have to go. Can't carry on, winning like that.

[jesterpv]

I still want him out, next week we will revert to the tipy tapy stuff that gets us beaten.

If he would look at last night and realise this is the best way for us to play maybe he would win some fans back.

But he is too stubborn and i think he has taken us as far as he can.

[Daggers]

Voted in for the first time. 
 

Do I want him in forever? No. 
Do I want him sacked? Yes. 
 

“WTF you on about then?” Easy. You don’t sack someone after a 4-0 derby win. You just don’t. 
 

He bought himself some time. Produce performances like last night consistently and I may not like him, but that would justify his pay packet. The shit needs to apologise for his blaming fans though, regardless. 

[ARM1968]

Hope this isn’t a false dawn, but fear it very much is. If we take confidence and attitude, passion and energy into the next match, then maybe we are turning a corner. Still want him out, he isn’t the answer. 

[ARTY_FOX]

1 win changes nothing. 

[fox_up_north]

A great win but he knew his neck was on the line and the axe had been raised. Our next 4 games are all very winnable and I want us to get to Man City out of the bottom 3. 

 

If we get to Leeds and haven't picked up another win, then he has to go. You can't drop points to those in the bottom half and expect to stay safe.