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Guest Col city fan
Posted
32 minutes ago, danny2997 said:

Squad isn't the problem, even if not brilliant it's a mid table or higher squad easily. The manager is the problem. 

Nope.

You are falling for that nonsense I’m afraid.

Both are culpable. Rodgers has somehow reduced once excellent players, to jelly.

But our squad is naff. Once we lose Maddison, we have nothing, or so it seems.

I wouldn’t give you tuppence for many of them. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, turlo said:

why have so many of those players massively declined over the last 12 months is the question that needs asking

I think it's because their effectiveness has been undermined by serious and/or repeated injury problems over the last year or so eg Ricardo, Evans, Justin, Ndidi, Barnes. 

Guest Mickyblueeyes
Posted (edited)

The squad is not what it was two years ago. I’ll happily admit that. I’ll also admit that the recruitment have royally ****ed up.

 

However, we have enough not to be humiliated so often. We have enough to be organised. You play a side which suits the players at your disposable. We’ve lost our full backs. We can’t expect Castagne and Thomas to do what Perreira and Justin do. We’ve got two utterly shit cbs - so stick the third in there. We have an aging legend who isn’t half the player he was two years ago - it happens. So get him some support. We have another striker void of any confidence - play two. We lack bottle in the middle - it could be confidence, so try to play with them for a while, not through them. 
 

That all falls on the manager. 

Edited by Mickyblueeyes
Guest Kopfkino
Posted

The squad just doesn’t make much sense. The profiles of the players that come in as replacements don’t match up well with who they’re replacing. I don’t expect the replacements to necessarily be as good but I would expect them to be more similar. Castagne isn’t as good technically as Ricardo but they make sense as replacements for each other. 


We lack height and physicality which means today we have to bring Ndidi in for Soumare because we’ve got big issues from set pieces if not. But Ndidi is the least press-resistant player you’ll see in a Premier League midfield against probably the best pressing midfield in the league. We need Mendy in there but then we are even more of a sitting duck at set pieces.

 

Barnes is ineffective if we can’t force overloads in his area of the pitch but as soon Dewsnury-Hall’s role changes or he doesn’t play, we can’t help him. As soon as Maddison is out, there’s nobody to find with a vertical pass who will get us going up the pitch.

 

I think we’ve got a lot of players that could complement other squads that have been built differently but that just doesn’t function well enough together.

Posted

Schmeichal Leeds Utd reject

Huth past it

fuchs who?

morgan championship at his peak!

Simpson spent a year at every club in the league

mahrez 400 grand wimp

kante no one before us

vardy 1 million pounds nutjob

albrighton villa reject

drinkwater rescued from a loan at Barnsley 

okazaki 7 million quid midget 

ulloa 9 million quid cost a Fvckin fortune


I don’t think it’s the players, it’s about buying players for a certain system  and getting them to do the job they’re employed to do. If you can’t afford the best players come up with a system that fits the ones you’ve got. We’ve got one half tidy ball playing defender, why the fvck are we even attempting to play football from the back, we’re never going to be good enough to do that, get the ball up and Get ndidi playing box to box, not just covering a shite system.  Look at nacho, he can’t play from midfield or set stuff up, he came to us from Man City on the back of being a poacher in the box, that’s his strength, why ain’t we playing to that. And if Barnes has trouble getting up on the morning, let alone up for a football match, put him on a diet of red bull and pro+.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Lee Monty said:

Ward - Nowhere near good enough

Castagne - Average

Ricardo - quality but injury prone

Justin - decent but injury prone

Thomas - league 1 level at best

Amarty- garbage

Faes- flatters to decive

Evans- past it

Vestargard- no comment

Youri - very good

Ndidi - regressing

Mendy - average

Soumare - Poor

Maddison - excellent

Albrighton - past it

Vardy - past it

Iheancho - average

Daka - not good enough

Barnes - not good enough

Praet - average

Perez - Not good enough 

KDH - Average

 

Worryingly can’t disagree much. Maybe a bit harsh on Tim and KDH

 

Posted

I think the manager is a huge problem and nearly any other manager in the top 5 leagues would do better than this clocked out fraud but I'm losing patience with some of this lot now.

Posted

We need a spine, we have lost any sort of solidity through the middle. Previously we've had

 

Schmeichel - a vocal, aggressive, leader. Not my preferred captain, but a leader nonetheless

Morgan - quiet, but when he spoke you could tell his words had weight with the players, a great captain. He also did his talking though his commitment and effort.

Huth - very very experienced, a leader, professional and uncompromising.

Kante - our engine, stopping attacks before they happen.

Shinji - energy between defence and Vardy, not terribly creative (apart when looking to score goals), but would open up space.

Vardy - pressing high up the pitch, killing attacks, scaring opposition, opening up the pitch and stretching the opposition.

 

That allows for talent like Mahrez to play on the wings, Albrighton can concentrate on getting the ball to the strikers, Fuchs and Simpson can push up and support their wingers. Drinkwater was able to support Kante and work the transition between defence and attack.

 

Right now, with Ward, Amartey and a 24 yr old Faes, that back three is not commanding enough. Vestergaard I think was brought in to play the experienced Huth role, but he's too weak for a tall man, and isn't imposing enough. Soyuncu should be playing that role, but the manager doesn't like him. I'd much rather have him than Amartey, and I like Amartey, but we need to have the rock in the back.

 

Ndidi has dropped form and can't turn the ball over like Kante, but I think he still has a role in killing attacks. Tielemans, is better than Drinkwater but when Madders isn't playing there is no outlet for him, even when Madders is playing we play too deep and slow, Madders gets quickly closed down and we turn over the play. Our attack isn't stretching the opposition and finding space. Barnes is quite able to run past players, but when he gets there he has to wait for everyone else to catch up, because we are playing too deeply and also because we look unfit. Barnes looks like he doesn't know what he is doing once he's in a good position, which there maybe some truth to, but it's largely because he has no one to pass to. KDH provides drive forward as well, but same issue if there is no movement from the attackers - but where do we play him, Tielemans, Madders and Ndidi? Too central.

 

Vardy now needs to be retired. It's sad to admit, but he does. Iheanacho can play the Shinji role, if given game time. Daka, we know he has a history of scoring in other leagues. He needs to find that form here. I think they both have inherent quality.

 

So a few things,

1. We need a new spine, especially GK and CBs, especially if BR doesn't rate Soyuncu. Between Ndidi, Mendy and maybe Soumare, we have sufficient CDM cover I think, but they need to press and have the energy needed to fulfil the role. Tielemans has sufficient quality, we are likely to lose him, I don't see Soumare taking that spot. We need a new RW (which we've all been saying forever), to help stretch the play and keep opposition guessing.

2. We need to get fitter. We look knackered, every team we play against looks faster.

3. We need to get more aggressive. We lose most of the 50:50s, if we even bother to challenge for them. We don't have a player who can disrupt the oppositions play.

4. We need to press, forget this rubbish of taking forever with the ball. Press and work hard.

5. Are we even practicing our formation and structure? The team do not look like they know their roles, or even who they are playing with.

6. Offload the dross.

7. What's happened to our sports science, including sports psychology, and scouting? We were known as one of the best in the league for both. The board needs to take a look at themselves there.

8. BR can't do any of the above. Get someone else in now.

 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Lee Monty said:

Ward - Nowhere near good enough

Castagne - Average

Ricardo - quality but injury prone

Justin - decent but injury prone

Thomas - league 1 level at best

Amarty- garbage

Faes- flatters to decive

Evans- past it

Vestargard- no comment

Youri - very good

Ndidi - regressing

Mendy - average

Soumare - Poor

Maddison - excellent

Albrighton - past it

Vardy - past it

Iheancho - average

Daka - not good enough

Barnes - not good enough

Praet - average

Perez - Not good enough 

KDH - Average

 

The only 2 I'd disagree with are Barnes and KDH. I would up rate them to: Average and good respectively. 

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