Happy Fox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Just now, ARTY_FOX said: I am surprised nobody has mentioned (as far as I'm aware) tuchel. Wasn't he quoted as wanting a club outside of the traditional bigger ones for his next job? A project. One where the media intensity isn't quite so high. Maybe even one they'd believe everything he says even if the stats don't add up... Tuchel is at Bayern! 2
Dahnsouff Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 2 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said: Touch uncalled for. If I remember correctly, your argument regarding Poch previously is he isn’t any good because he didn’t win anything. It just isn’t true, is it? He’s a terrific manager who can build a massive project. I’d argue he’d be perfect for us, he just wouldn’t come. Certainly was not intending to be abusive, so my apologies. I just don’t buy the bit in bold, he had that at Spurs and cocked it up. This is just my opinion, but I agree he would not come.
BenTheFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 For those stating that he failed to keep Newcastle up, this is true. However, it was 3 from Villa, Newcastle, Norwich and Sunderland that were going to go down when he took, there are 7 or 8 teams in it at the moment. Sunderland under Allardyce picked up 12 points from their last 6 games, which is a huge return when it really matters. Benitez picked up 12 points from his 10 games at Newcastle that season. If he repeats that here, we will finish on 37 points which *might* just be enough. 2
Fox92 Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Just now, BenTheFox said: For those stating that he failed to keep Newcastle up, this is true. However, it was 3 from Villa, Newcastle, Norwich and Sunderland that were going to go down when he took, there are 7 or 8 teams in it at the moment. Sunderland under Allardyce picked up 12 points from their last 6 games, which is a huge return when it really matters. Benitez picked up 12 points from his 10 games at Newcastle that season. If he repeats that here, we will finish on 37 points which *might* just be enough. No however about it, he failed to keep them up. Can't go turning around facts.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 2 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: For those stating that he failed to keep Newcastle up, this is true. However, it was 3 from Villa, Newcastle, Norwich and Sunderland that were going to go down when he took, there are 7 or 8 teams in it at the moment. Sunderland under Allardyce picked up 12 points from their last 6 games, which is a huge return when it really matters. Benitez picked up 12 points from his 10 games at Newcastle that season. If he repeats that here, we will finish on 37 points which *might* just be enough. Don't want the FSW but this is a good post with important context.
CosbehFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 4 minutes ago, Sampson said: The best thing about Rafa is he’d actually organise our defence which is what we desperately need Exactly my thoughts - it's just a turn off when it comes to next summer.
Vindaloo FOX Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 2 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: For those stating that he failed to keep Newcastle up, this is true. However, it was 3 from Villa, Newcastle, Norwich and Sunderland that were going to go down when he took, there are 7 or 8 teams in it at the moment. Sunderland under Allardyce picked up 12 points from their last 6 games, which is a huge return when it really matters. Benitez picked up 12 points from his 10 games at Newcastle that season. If he repeats that here, we will finish on 37 points which *might* just be enough. Or just hire Big Sam 🤔
ClaphamFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Just now, nettle said: i reckon it might be Gerrard What possible reason would we have for thinking he could get us out of our current mess?
Guy Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 16 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I don't completely dismiss what happened at Everton, but I do think there's a need to contextualise it. Everton fans were very vocal and pro-active about not appointing him. He got off to a decent start and lost DCL to injury, who was trying to build everything around. The biggest thing though is that he was only a couple of bad results away from things turning really toxic given his history. That background doesn't exist here. I'm not excited by the prospect, but maybe just maybe he might be enough? I think that echoes the sentiments of a lot of fans here in so far as "he'll do" re Rafa on a 'short termie'....like he was at Chelsea that time. Not overly exciting but the key here is simply to avoid relegation and finally have a proper re-set and rebuild over thie summer which for whatever reason never happened as Rodgers had promised us and stressed nneded to happen last summer..... then the rest is not ours to see after this season re long term appointments - but I hope it's not Rafa for the latter!
BenTheFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Just now, Fox92 said: No however about it, he failed to keep them up. Can't go turning around facts. Context, my brother. I think it's worth pointing out that he was in a four horse race then and not a 7 or 8 horse race. He lost out to Allardyce who managed to get Sunderland firing at the right time but had also had a transfer window 7/8 months to work with them. My point is, we don't have to finish first in a four horse race fourth in a seven horse race is good enough.
nettle Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: What possible reason would we have for thinking he could get us out of our current mess? They love a name
kingkisnorbo Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: What possible reason would we have for thinking he could get us out of our current mess? The only redeeming factor is he seems to be quite passionate, vocal. Sort of what we need right now.
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 3 April 2023 Popular Post Posted 3 April 2023 (edited) Playing a fun game of Who's Out of Work, trawling Transfermarkt for available managers whose last job was in one of Europe's top (ish) leagues (or is familiar in Europe at least), ordered by recency of availability: No chance: Conte, Nagglesmann, Enrique, Poch, Zidane, Low Chance: Potter, Hutter, Rafa Outside chance/probably/certainly no chance but wouldn't be awful or might be it's hard to say: Sampaoli, Favre, Stephan, Tata Martino, Marcelino, Bielsa (wouldn't be boring at least), Fatih Terim Oh jesus no: Vieira, Parker, Bilic, Jones, Frei, Marsch, Breitenreiter, Pards, Cannavaro (yes, Fabio), Gattuso (MALAKIA!), Kolo Toure, Mel, Lampard, Dean Smith, Gio van B, Hasenhuttl, Gerrard, Bruce, Bosz, Lage, Magath, Bordalas, Mazzarri, Scheva, Puel (haha), Big Sam, De Boer If they aren't on that list they're either employed somewhere or they've been out of work so far they aren't likely to be considered. So unless we're poaching someone (and that seems unlikely at this time of year) then the name is probably on that list somewhere. Edited 3 April 2023 by Finnegan 5
ClaphamFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 (edited) Rafa is still 11/2 on betfair as our next permanent manager. Which means the bookies either aren't convinced by the Benitez rumours, or they think if he comes it will just be a temporary job... Edited 3 April 2023 by ClaphamFox
South Shire Fox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 (edited) Benitez on a deal until end of the season, give him big bonus if he keeps us up. Reassess and look for long term manager in the summer. If hes not happy with that then look elsewhere Edited 3 April 2023 by South Shire Fox
ClaphamFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 1 minute ago, kingkisnorbo said: The only redeeming factor is he seems to be quite passionate, vocal. Sort of what we need right now. I think being a football manager probably requires a bit more than that. 1
TrentFox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 9 minutes ago, nettle said: i reckon it might be Gerrard I will personally go and fetch Brendan back if that looks like being the outcome of all this 😞 2
Finnegan Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Personally I'd give it to Gattuso just to see the fear in Ian Stringer's eyes when he has to interview him. 1
The whole world smiles Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 Gerrard did fantastic at Rangers, annoys me people seem to put him in the same bracket as lampard when he's already achieved a lot more in management. I wouldn't be totally against a Gerrard Gary Mac combo. 1 1
21st Century Fox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 8 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Playing a fun game of Who's Out of Work, trawling Transfermarkt for available managers whose last job was in one of Europe's top (ish) leagues, ordered by recency of availability: No chance: Conte, Nagglesmann, Enrique, Poch, Zidane, Low Chance: Potter, Hutter, Rafa Outside chance/probably/certainly no chance but wouldn't be awful or might be it's hard to say: Sampaoli, Favre, Stephan, Tata Martino, Marcelino, Bielsa (wouldn't be boring at least), Fatih Terim Oh jesus no: Vieira, Parker, Bilic, Jones, Frei, Marsch, Breitenreiter, Pards, Cannavaro (yes, Fabio), Gattuso (MALAKIA!), Kolo Toure, Mel, Lampard, Dean Smith, Gio van B, Hasenhuttl, Gerrard, Bruce, Bosz, Lage, Magath, Bordalas, Mazzarri, Scheva, Puel (haha), Big Sam, De Boer 1
hejammy Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 10 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Playing a fun game of Who's Out of Work, trawling Transfermarkt for available managers whose last job was in one of Europe's top (ish) leagues (or is familiar in Europe at least), ordered by recency of availability: No chance: Conte, Nagglesmann, Enrique, Poch, Zidane, Low Chance: Potter, Hutter, Rafa Outside chance/probably/certainly no chance but wouldn't be awful or might be it's hard to say: Sampaoli, Favre, Stephan, Tata Martino, Marcelino, Bielsa (wouldn't be boring at least), Fatih Terim Oh jesus no: Vieira, Parker, Bilic, Jones, Frei, Marsch, Breitenreiter, Pards, Cannavaro (yes, Fabio), Gattuso (MALAKIA!), Kolo Toure, Mel, Lampard, Dean Smith, Gio van B, Hasenhuttl, Gerrard, Bruce, Bosz, Lage, Magath, Bordalas, Mazzarri, Scheva, Puel (haha), Big Sam, De Boer If they aren't on that list they're either employed somewhere or they've been out of work so far they aren't likely to be considered. So unless we're poaching someone (and that seems unlikely at this time of year) then the name is probably on that list somewhere. I'm not sure Poch belongs in that list to be honest. The others I agree with. I think if we get an interim to keep us up, then Poch can be convinced.
st albans fox Posted 3 April 2023 Posted 3 April 2023 14 minutes ago, nettle said: i reckon it might be Gerrard Oh bugger forgot about him and lampard they'd attend the opening of a bag of crisps so no danger they wouldn’t make it to our game tomorrow!
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