Voter Photo ID

[Bellend Sebastian]

Hello my sweet princes (and princesses, both of you)

 

A lot of you will know about this already but data says not all of you will.

 

Going forward you're going to need to present photo ID when voting in UK elections.

 

Details of the requirements are here:

 

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/voter-id?gclsrc=aw.ds

 

If you don't have what's needed, you've got until April 25th to apply for a voter ID certificate, if you want to vote in the May local elections.

 

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/voter-id/applying-a-voter-authority-certificate

 

I think this is very important and would urge anyone who thinks it's important to exercise your democratic right to raise this with people you know and make sure as many people as possible are aware of this.

 

I hope the mods agree this is worth having up, but I'm mindful of the rules about avoiding political discussion on here, so please don't increase the risk of it getting taken down by voicing your opinions on this which I'm sure some of you will have (I know I do)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[fox_favourite]

Rodgers out!

 

To be fair, I didn’t know this, so is useful info. Thanks 

Edited 18 April 2023 by fox_favourite

[Parafox]

Another politics thread is going to emerge from this.

 

Thank you and goodbye 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, fox_favourite said:

Rodgers out!

 

To be fair, I didn’t know this, so is useful info. Thanks 

I assume you got a letter along with your voting card, explaining the new process? Or did you just chuck it in the recycling bin?

[Mike Oxlong]

Surely a bum wipe on the ballot paper would suffice as genetic profiling could match it to the individual - more reliable than photo id too 

[foxy boxing]

Why not ask for fingerprints and a dna swab as well!. 

[The boy Linacre]

Maybe I can pick up my Newcastle A ticket as well or Fulham, 2 or 3 for the price of 1 photo ID??

[HighPeakFox]

The obligation to have photo ID is on the voting card.

 

it is a total disgrace, there is no need for it, but that should come as no surprise.

[stripeyfox]

seems a strange one. presumably to counter voter fraud, but is there any evidence of that happening on a large scale? I thought the postal voting was much more prone to abuse in any case?

[Lionator]

1 minute ago, stripeyfox said:

seems a strange one. presumably to counter voter fraud, but is there any evidence of that happening on a large scale? I thought the postal voting was much more prone to abuse in any case?

There's pretty much no history of voter fraud in the UK, especially on a scale that would impact an election. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to work out why the government have decided to do this.

[Raj]

If I was being sceptical of this Hovernment I would say they are trying to phase out the younger population who probably dont yet have a driving license and some not having a passport either.

These would probably be more likely NOT to vote tories so helping them deduct a whole portion of the voting public for Labour.

Aunty Doris and Uncle Pete who voted Brexit and will vote Tory will have a driving license and a passport for their annual pilgrimage to Benidorm!!

 

That's if I was being sceptical of this Government,  which obviously  I'm not!

[Trav Le Bleu]

21 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

seems a strange one. presumably to counter voter fraud, but is there any evidence of that happening on a large scale? I thought the postal voting was much more prone to abuse in any case?

This exactly. Why photo id when there are other forms with no way of knowing who actual cast the vote.

Just accept that 99% of people will be honest and that there has always been a small element of voting fraud, but which rarely has made any impact, in this country at least.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 minute ago, Raj said:

If I was being sceptical of this Hovernment I would say they are trying to phase out the younger population who probably dont yet have a driving license and some not having a passport either.

These would probably be more likely NOT to vote tories so helping them deduct a whole portion of the voting public for Labour.

Aunty Doris and Uncle Pete who voted Brexit and will vote Tory will have a driving license and a passport for their annual pilgrimage to Benidorm!!

 

That's if I was being sceptical of this Government,  which obviously  I'm not!

If you take the letters of Raj, add some letters in, mix them round a little and then take some out, you get the word "sceptic".

 

Fact!

[Jattdogg]

4 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Why not ask for fingerprints and a dna swab as well!. 

From your sausage wallet? Lol 

 

 

[Voll Blau]

9 hours ago, Lionator said:

There's pretty much no history of voter fraud in the UK, especially on a scale that would impact an election. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to work out why the government have decided to do this.

It's bare-faced gerrymandering. Older people's travelcards are accepted but younger people's aren't.

 

They're not even trying to hide what they're doing.

[Footballwipe]

Respect to anyone working a polling station on 04 May. There will be grumpy people everywhere and arguments ensuing throughout the day almost everywhere because of this.

 

It's ridiculous and unnecessary and I find it bewildering how many people on the internet seem to agree with this because "everyone (aka me and everyone I know rather than the real world) has SOME form of ID" and "rigged elections" as if we're under a military junta.

 

I hope to god any new government scraps this nonsense.

[Foxdiamond]

Agree this is a disgrace and no evidence that voter fraud anywhere near needing photo ID

[RoboFox]

The most disproportionate reaction to non-existent election fraud. And they're doing their best not to widely publicise it. 

 

It's blatant voter suppression, plain and simple. Third world corruption in the UK in 2023.

 

Believe it or not, we have a near impeccable record in this country of fair and accepted elections. Doesn't surprise anyone that these cvnts would be the ones to shit all over that too. 

 

Edited 19 April 2023 by RoboFox

[leicsmac]

Yeah, would agree with the general sentiment here that this is needless at best and blatant malicious voter suppression by a government knowing they're going to otherwise get tonked in the next election at worst.

[HighPeakFox]

Always accuse (or suggest, imply) your opponents of the crime of which you are yourself guilty. 

 

Case closed, ipso facto. 

[orangecity23]

It's not just going to affect younger voters though, there will be a subset of older voters still using paper driving licenses and without passports. We had similar trouble sorting out my dad when the club wanted to see photo Id for the Tottenham game in the COVID season, had to email them to ask if an expired passport from the 1980s would be an acceptable form of id 😄

[BKLFox]

& they say the OLD (over 50's) don't like change

I love how mocking questions were asked on here why the UK didn't have a national warning system (the 1 being rolled out sunday) in place already as they are pretty standard place in other areas around the world despite not really needing 1, we don't get tsunami's, hurricane's, cyclones, typhoons, tornado's like in other parts of the world it's called a strong wind here, we don't sit on a fault line or have an active volcano, and none of our immediate neighbours want to bomb the fec out of us on a daily bases but we move with the times as climate change is affecting our weather systems coupled with other world potential events, no biggy.

Yet now being asked to prove who you are prior to voting causes up roar although this AGAIN is common place around the EU/World prior to casting a vote, again no biggy is it

[Foxdiamond]

22 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

& they say the OLD (over 50's) don't like change

I love how mocking questions were asked on here why the UK didn't have a national warning system (the 1 being rolled out sunday) in place already as they are pretty standard place in other areas around the world despite not really needing 1, we don't get tsunami's, hurricane's, cyclones, typhoons, tornado's like in other parts of the world it's called a strong wind here, we don't sit on a fault line or have an active volcano, and none of our immediate neighbours want to bomb the fec out of us on a daily bases but we move with the times as climate change is affecting our weather systems coupled with other world potential events, no biggy.

Yet now being asked to prove who you are prior to voting causes up roar although this AGAIN is common place around the EU/World prior to casting a vote, again no biggy is it

Shame there was not the same attitude to changing the first past the post system. Probably hinders our democracy more than voter fraud.

[Voll Blau]

53 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

& they say the OLD (over 50's) don't like change

I love how mocking questions were asked on here why the UK didn't have a national warning system (the 1 being rolled out sunday) in place already as they are pretty standard place in other areas around the world despite not really needing 1, we don't get tsunami's, hurricane's, cyclones, typhoons, tornado's like in other parts of the world it's called a strong wind here, we don't sit on a fault line or have an active volcano, and none of our immediate neighbours want to bomb the fec out of us on a daily bases but we move with the times as climate change is affecting our weather systems coupled with other world potential events, no biggy.

Yet now being asked to prove who you are prior to voting causes up roar although this AGAIN is common place around the EU/World prior to casting a vote, again no biggy is it

It is a "biggy" if the system deliberately discriminates against certain demographics of voters, such as the travelcard example.

[marbles]

46 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

It is a "biggy" if the system deliberately discriminates against certain demographics of voters, such as the travelcard example.

Sorry, I don’t know what travelcard is - are people with those not allowed to get a picture ID?

Edited 19 April 2023 by marbles