Ashley Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 1 minute ago, Steve Earle said: Ha! I won’t keep playing but you really don’t need WBs with 3 CBs. Man C don’t. Very good piece in The Athletic on this this week. 3-box-3 is the way! Just now, ClaphamFox said: The debate over whether a back three necessitates wing backs has the potential to get really interesting... Two completely different things
StriderHiryu Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve Earle said: Ha! I won’t keep playing but you really don’t need WBs with 3 CBs. Man C don’t. Very good piece in The Athletic on this this week. 3-box-3 is the way! I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. 2
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 15 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. I’ll dip in! 1
FLAN Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 Doesn’t strike me as a player who would back himself to make the step up. He’s had a very easy ride from Rodgers regarding his overall contribution to games for the last few years and won’t get that elsewhere I hope he is asked to add more in overall contribution if he stays
CosbehFox Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 5 minutes ago, FLAN said: Doesn’t strike me as a player who would back himself to make the step up. He’s had a very easy ride from Rodgers regarding his overall contribution to games for the last few years and won’t get that elsewhere I hope he is asked to add more in overall contribution if he stays Btw his recultance to move is far more human and family reasons than ambition of his career 1
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 52 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I've put some things related to this in a Tactics thread. John Stones starts on paper at right back for Man City, but moves in field to play as a double pivot alongside Rodri. We just signed a player who started as a central midfielder, then moved back to defence and is known for having good passing and being very influential... Or we might try Ricardo in a position like that, though it takes away from his running and driving at the opposition, which i think is too good to pass up. PS - I’m not sure you can still say Stones ‘starts on paper’ at RB? We all know where he starts, it’s RH. Anyway @StriderHiryu I look forward to joining you on the tactics thread! 1
coolhandfox Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: It's kind of a given no? My comment was more personal than the actual positional i.e. the view that we need to play a traditional fullback at wide in a 3-back formation, like Thomas, Justin, Castange, Ricardo, kristiansen. Chelsea won a league with Victor Mose playing wingback, Man City just won a league with proper fullbacks. 1 hour ago, Ricey said: ...because if not then it's either a flat back 5 at all times or you play wingers and get killed on the flanks. I've only seen two LCFC managers play a good 3 back..... 1) Martin O'Neill who often used Guppy and Impey as the wide men in a 3 back who were both wingers! 2) Nigel Pearson convert to a 3 back as part of the great escape and often used Schlupp and Albrighton both wingers. Edited 5 July 2023 by coolhandfox 1
drew Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 I think we all just assume footballers are greedy mercenaries now and always looking for their next payday. Barnes doesn’t strike me as that kind of footballer. If we wants to stay for family reasons good for him. 2
hackneyfox Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 21 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I've only seen two LCFC managers play a good 3 back..... 1) Martin O'Neill who often used Guppy and Impey as the wide men in a 3 back who were both wingers! 2) Esteban Cambiasso convert to a 3 back as part of the great escape and often used Schlupp and Albrighton both wingers. Fixed for you. 3
JimJams Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, EnderbyFox said: The only issue I can see with him staying is where does he play? From the players we've been linked with so far it suggests the main system we are pushing for is 3 at the back. Does he switch to a second striker? Can't see him as a wing back? Anywhere in the front 3, be it in a 343 or a 3412. Edited 5 July 2023 by JimJams
JimJams Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 1 hour ago, CosbehFox said: Btw his recultance to move is far more human and family reasons than ambition of his career BUT CAN HE AFFORD HIS NEW MORTGAGE PAYMENTS?!?!?!
VLC86 Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 Looks quite simple with Barnes. Think if he gets a move to a team where he doesn’t need to move house he goes, so probably anyone other than Newcastle. If he stays, I’d hope we protect ourselves from a Tielemans situation.
CrazyKopCorner Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 £50m would do the trick wouldn’t it - we could bring in another 5 or 6 players with that 1
JimmyC74 Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Steve Earle said: 50m feels pretty much the max we could get and on that basis we should sell and reinvest in 2/3 players. 1
KFS Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 Cheers Barnsy, knew we’d fleece at least one club this summer. It’s what we do best
Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 5 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 July 2023 50m would be a decent deal, but we would need to scout some decent replacement. Without him and Maddison that's 23 goals last season walking out the door. 8
Popular Post weller54 Posted 5 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 July 2023 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: 50m would be a decent deal, but we would need to scout some decent replacement. Without him and Maddison that's 23 goals last season walking out the door. God yes!!.. Without them we would have had a disastrous season. 3 4
st albans fox Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 20 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said: £50m would do the trick wouldn’t it - we could bring in another 5 or 6 players with that I think we might need the money for the financial hole rather than spending it. can’t see 50m although now we have madders money in and Barnes has two years left, we should push our case and ask fir it
Steve Earle Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 Anything north of £40m with the potential to reach/exceed £50m would be great. I still feel angry about last season & while the board & the poison dwarf take most of the blame, the players must take their share. Barnes’ utter uselessness out of possession isn’t something I’ll miss. #DrainTheSwamp 2
mozartfox Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 Once done. Then Vesty (no chance) followed by the Belgian contingent and Ward. Come on Rudkin this is a frigging walk in the park…..
CrazyKopCorner Posted 5 July 2023 Posted 5 July 2023 3 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Once done. Then Vesty (no chance) followed by the Belgian contingent and Ward. Come on Rudkin this is a frigging walk in the park….. The feeling of relief if we could rid ourselves of all of the deadwood and have a tight 25/26 man squad would be great
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