Premier League Thread 2023/2024

[Koke]

5 hours ago, The Bear said:

Quick quiz. How many people can spot the foul in the build-up, that VAR decided was a clear and obvious error to disallow this goal? 

 

 

 

 

Is VAR a Bournemouth fan?

[Koke]

Everton first goal is the most Sean Dyche goal ever.

[StanSP]

Nothing wrong with that Wolves goal. 

[Super_horns]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Nothing wrong with that Wolves goal. 

No was harsh and quite a long way before the goal 

 

Particularly when Atwell was involved considering what went on at the weekend.

 

Mind you on MOTD they thought it was the right decision and the red card was harsh so they what do we know ..

Edited 25 April by Super_horns

[surrifox]

12 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

It is. Year after year he is consistently the second worst player in the Premier League for matching their xG. Neal Maupay is the only top flight striker who consistently wastes more chances.

 

Well if we are promoted it’ll be Patson “hold my beer” Daka they’ll all be chasing 

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, surrifox said:

Well if we are promoted it’ll be Patson “hold my beer” Daka they’ll all be chasing 

 

In the two years Patson Daka played Premier League football he was the only Leicester City striker to match or better his expected goals across both seasons. 

 

I cannot defend some of his misses recently, he went from being absolutely superb when Enzo brought him back in to the team to really seeming to lose confidence completely since that miss at Leeds which was genuinely hideous and some of those since then. 

 

But he's still the victim of significant confirmation bias from a section of the fanbase who have been convinced he's shit since day one and are abjectly blind to anything good he does. 

 

I'd take Daka over Calvert Lewin every single day of the week, it isn't close. Daka is an objectively better footballer by basically every metric other than heading. 

 

[Super_horns]

I see Forest don't want Neville and Carragher at their game v Man City on Sunday.

 

Sky should just send Micah Richards there just to wind them up!

 

Has any Sky pundit actually agreed with their stance?

 

I think they would have got more support by saying in their view the decisions were wrong rather than going on about bias etc.

[Fox92]

14 hours ago, Izzy said:

I know Klopp can be an arse and many will be glad to see the back of him, but I heard a story about him this week which changed my mind on him a bit.

 

A client of mine is a senior director of a big corporate and a Liverpool STH and he lives near Klopp. Apparently on some Sundays when Liverpool aren't playing, Klopp walks his dog around the local parks and watches the kids football matches. It's an unwritten rule that the locals leave him be and then often at the end of games he'll go over and speak to the players, coaches, and parents about what he's seen.

 

Everyone has to put their phones in a pile on the ground so not to record him and then he spends 10-15 minutes giving his observations, tips and pointers on how they can improve.

 

As a coach of my own son's U10's team a few years back, I think that's pretty cool of him tbh.

 

I like him and he's always seemed to take in the history and connect with Liverpool people (fans) and / or the area. From an outside view that's how I've always viewed him.

 

 

The moaning is annoying but he's not alone in that. Guardiola is as bad.

 

He's one of those that comes across as great to meet in a pub.

[surrifox]

5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

In the two years Patson Daka played Premier League football he was the only Leicester City striker to match or better his expected goals across both seasons. 

 

I cannot defend some of his misses recently, he went from being absolutely superb when Enzo brought him back in to the team to really seeming to lose confidence completely since that miss at Leeds which was genuinely hideous and some of those since then. 

 

But he's still the victim of significant confirmation bias from a section of the fanbase who have been convinced he's shit since day one and are abjectly blind to anything good he does. 

 

I'd take Daka over Calvert Lewin every single day of the week, it isn't close. Daka is an objectively better footballer by basically every metric other than heading. 

 

I am genuinely surprised by the stats and notwithstanding that these ratings are a somewhat spurious metric they are presumably applied consistently in assessing players . 
Since they were set in the EPL and he has latterly played in the championship and has frankly looked poor one league lower I’m not sure what conclusion can be drawn other than I agree he’s better than DCL 

[Finnegan]

41 minutes ago, surrifox said:

I am genuinely surprised by the stats and notwithstanding that these ratings are a somewhat spurious metric they are presumably applied consistently in assessing players . 
Since they were set in the EPL and he has latterly played in the championship and has frankly looked poor one league lower I’m not sure what conclusion can be drawn other than I agree he’s better than DCL 

 

It's just objectively false that he's looked poor at this level. He is, comfortably, our best striker at linking up and complimenting play.

 

He's looked after the ball well, held it up well despite previous accusations of being weak, he's contributed well defensively, he presses well, his passing has been decent, his movement has been good dropping in and then turning to run vertically. 

 

He was comfortably the first striker to really obviously "get" Enzo's system despite all of the pre season assumptions that Iheanacho would be well suited to Enzoball. 

 

The only thing Daka has done particularly wrong this season is that from Elland Road til now he has gone on a run of missing some absolutely horrible chances, particularly at a time when Vardy has really gone up a gear and started to thrive. And that's a very big thing for a striker to get wrong, regardless of how impressive his G+A/90 had been up til that point. 

 

And, for the record, Vardy has the best G+A/90 in the whole squad this year with 1 whole goal contribution per game equivalent. You know who is second with 0.99? Patson Daka. 

 

On current form he's justifiably playing second fiddle to Vards now and, as I've said, I absolutely can't defend some of his recent misses - they could have been (and maybe still could be) extremely costly, although then so could the hattrick Vardy left out on the pitch a few weeks ago when we lost. 

 

But everyone's forgotten that just as quickly as they've forgotten the goals Daka's scored. Probably the same 75% of foxestalkers that thought Maresca should be sacked a few weeks ago. ****ing mouth breathers. 

 

 

Edited 25 April by Finnegan

[winteriscoming]

Very disrespectful for Slot to come out and say he wants to join Liverpool while still at Feyenord. Wait until the season has finished and talk about it once it’s announced. 

[Md9]

Great header to be fair 1-0 Man City 

[PhillippaT]

KDB can score headers, now, too? Is there anything he can't do? I bet he'd stop everything in goal, too, right?  /s

[Md9]

Game over 

[MarshallForEngland]

Was hoping this would be a bit more of a game but I can’t see Brighton getting anything now.

[PhillippaT]

27 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Very disrespectful for Slot to come out and say he wants to join Liverpool while still at Feyenord. Wait until the season has finished and talk about it once it’s announced. 

Are you saying he's a bit of a Slot?  

[filbertway]

Noncing around at the back, classic.

[Md9]

This could get messy Brighton all over the place 

[CheeseHead]

1 minute ago, PhillippaT said:

Are you saying he's a bit of a Slot?  

My Feyenoord mate tell me he's a real machine

[MarshallForEngland]

Absolutely mad from Brighton, what are they thinking trying to play out from the back like that inside their own penalty area. 

[filbertway]

Just now, MarshallForEngland said:

Absolutely mad from Brighton, what are they thinking trying to play out from the back like that inside their own penalty area. 

That is where the overcoaching is so much that it just completely kills any individuality or common sense. Absolutely mad that they were playing that way with 5 or 6 man City players in and around their box 

[lcfcsnow]

Di zerbi overrated for me, Brighton gradually getting worse the longer he’s there

[Wymsey]

7 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

Di zerbi overrated for me, Brighton gradually getting worse the longer he’s there

Reckon there has already been an agreement between him and another club in place.

[Super_horns]

36 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

Di zerbi overrated for me, Brighton gradually getting worse the longer he’s there

They have had an on the beach feel to them for a while and obviously Man City have been ruthless.

[OntarioFox]

8 hours ago, Super_horns said:

I see Forest don't want Neville and Carragher at their game v Man City on Sunday.

 

Sky should just send Micah Richards there just to wind them up!

 

Has any Sky pundit actually agreed with their stance?

 

I think they would have got more support by saying in their view the decisions were wrong rather than going on about bias etc.

The funniest outcome would be that they refuse them entry, then it turns out that there are clauses in the TV Money deal. Forest's income is slashed for preventing Sky doing their thing and they breach FFP again. 

Edited 25 April by OntarioFox