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Development/Youth Squads 2023/2024 Thread - U18/U21

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1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

Wonder why Alves is away on the first team celebration. Can only imagine it's to get him to commit to staying 

Hes been been part of the first team squad this year, he was on the bench at Watford. Its clear Enzo rates him and sees him as part of the future. Rodgers did the same with KDH when he had him with the team after the FA cup win. Players that have featured like Raikhy probably dont have a future here and were used to fill in

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13 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Because hes been part of the first team squad this year? He was on the bench at Watford

To be harsh, he's not impacted anything on the pitch at all. 

He may have been great in training, but for me he's not a first team player until he's actually played regularly. 

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1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

To be harsh, he's not impacted anything on the pitch at all. 

He may have been great in training, but for me he's not a first team player until he's actually played regularly. 

Circumstances very much prevented him from playing with injuries and then us stumbling across the line for promotion.

 

That said he should have been on the bench vs Blackburn. 

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18 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Circumstances very much prevented him from playing with injuries and then us stumbling across the line for promotion.

 

That said he should have been on the bench vs Blackburn. 

yeah Praet could have been left out and Daka could have made room for Braybrooke

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https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/enzo-maresca-keeps-alves-close-9272361

 

Enzo Maresca keeps Will Alves close as important Leicester City decision beckons
The teenage attacking midfielder joined the club on their champions getaway to Monte Carlo despite not making a first-team appearance during the Championship campaign


ByJordan Blackwell
17:49, 8 MAY 2024


On the same night Leicester City sealed promotion to the Premier League, their under-21s earned perhaps their best win of the season.

Because attention was naturally focused on events at Loftus Road and how Leeds would fare at QPR, the development squad’s 3-1 success at West Ham was somewhat overlooked. But it was a very good way for them to wrap up their campaign.

City were already confirmed to finish outside the top 16 and therefore miss out on the play-offs in the new Premier League 2 format, so there was little riding on the fixture. But against the Hammers, sitting second and having only lost three of their previous 19 games, City grabbed the victory.

 

 

 

Take a closer look at the team sheets and maybe it’s understandable. City had Ben Nelson and Wanya Marcal in the side, the pair promoted to the first team this season, and they had Will Alves and Sammy Braybrooke in the team too.

The latter pair, two of the club’s most promising talents, had been missing for the majority of the season as they recovered from ACL tears suffered the previous winter. Alves made a quicker recovery, but picked up muscle injuries here and there to stop him putting a run of games together. Braybrooke took longer to return, but was able to finish the campaign with a consistent run of games.

In all, there were just three matches where both Alves and Braybrooke were on the pitch at the same time. The first was against Manchester City, and Leicester were drawing 1-1 when Alves went off at the interval. They eventually lost 3-1. Then there were the final two games, a 3-0 victory over Stoke before the win at West Ham.

The duo were at the heart of those successes, particularly Alves. Against Stoke, he set up the first by weaving around defenders to get into the box and to the byline before cutting back to Oli Ewing. Then he made a run into the box to receive Silko Thomas’s pass and cross for Ewing to score again.

Against West Ham, he did it all himself. Receiving the ball midway inside West Ham’s half, he carried the ball around one man, jinked inside another and then fired in from the edge of the box. It’s what Alves is all about: dribbling with speed and close control and then making it count in the final third.

The next morning, he was celebrating with the first-team squad at Seagrave, and it wasn’t a one-off. Alves’s proximity to the senior team over the final week of the campaign suggests Enzo Maresca sees him as part of the group, even if he did not manage to get a game this term. Alves walked out with the squad to receive a medal against Blackburn, and then jetted off to Monte Carlo with the rest of the first-teamers for a short victory holiday courtesy of the chairman.

 


It didn’t take long for Maresca to spot Alves’s talent. Back in October, when Alves first started training again, the manager had a knowing smile on his face as he said the teenager had “something special”.

The question now is when he’s going to show it for a senior team, and for which team that will be. Alves’s lack of senior exposure so far means it’s unknown what his level is.

Maresca clearly feels he has potential, but does he have the ability to make appearances as in the Premier League next season? It feels extremely unlikely that he’s going to be a prominent player in the top flight.

Then the decision has to be whether his development is best served making the odd appearance here and there and learning directly from Maresca, or by spending a season out on loan and getting more senior game-time. It’s a tricky decision, made more difficult by not knowing quite where Alves is at.

With very little first-team experience, it’s difficult to place his ability in a senior context. If City are going to loan him out, they don’t want to send him to a club where he’s not going to play every week, but equally they’ll want him to be challenged so that he progresses more quickly.

City’s academy is doing great work right now. To have so many local lads contribute to their Championship title success, including the star of the team in Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, should not be taken for granted. But the right decisions have to be taken along the way so that their talent can be nurtured. If City get those calls right, they can make Alves a star of the team too.

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2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Unless we are confident of giving Alves and Braybrooke decent game time next season I'd go down the route we did with KDH a good loan at League 1 level and then Championship

 

If they go anywhere it needs to be a top 8 championship team with appearance obligations. They are too good to go to league 1. 

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20 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Looking forward to seeing where he goes on loan. 
 

You’d imagine the club will want him playing similar football. 

It should 1000% be Bristol City imo. 

 

Their manager implemented a similar style to us at Oxford and there was even rumours we were keeping an eye on him, 

 

The fact that Bristol need improvement means it would be a perfect location to play decent football but not be kept out the side by bigger names.  He could make quite the name for himself at a club like that. 

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3 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

It should 1000% be Bristol City imo. 

 

Their manager implemented a similar style to us at Oxford and there was even rumours we were keeping an eye on him, 

 

The fact that Bristol need improvement means it would be a perfect location to play decent football but not be kept out the side by bigger names.  He could make quite the name for himself at a club like that. 

Good shout. If they stay down West Brom would be good too. Barnes MK 2 ;) 

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Would be looking at getting a few out on Championship loans next year. Wanya, Alves, Braybrooke, Nelson. Will be great for their development. Absolutley pointless having them in the development squad now. Zach Booth, Ewing, Brad Young, Thomas etc need loans as well

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21 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

If they go anywhere it needs to be a top 8 championship team with appearance obligations. They are too good to go to league 1. 

I think you have blue tinted glasses on.

 

Both have came back from a ACL injuries and only managed 400 minutes this season in the tank.

 

Braybrooke has 16 senior minutes and Alves has 15 in their career.

 

They will do well to get any championship club.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

I think you have blue tinted glasses on.

 

Both have came back from a ACL injuries and only managed 400 minutes this season in the tank.

 

Braybrooke has 16 senior minutes and Alves has 15 in their career.

 

They will do well to get any championship club.

 

Their minutes have been managed this year for sure, but these 2 are wasted in League 1. If we can be convinced to take a 20 year old Casadei (yes i know he had a short spell at Reading), then a mid table Championship club should lap these 2 up.

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5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Their minutes have been managed this year for sure, but these 2 are wasted in League 1. If we can be convinced to take a 20 year old Casadei (yes i know he had a short spell at Reading), then a mid table Championship club should lap these 2 up.

Brushing over the fact his won the Golden Ball and the Golden Boot awards, as the most valuable player and the top scorer with 7 goals in the U20 WC during that summer.

 

Also how many minutes did he get for us?

 

Rather have the playing regularly in L1 then having another loan to a championship club second half of the season or next.

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18 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Brushing over the fact his won the Golden Ball and the Golden Boot awards, as the most valuable player and the top scorer with 7 goals in the U20 WC during that summer.

 

Also how many minutes did he get for us?

 

Rather have the playing regularly in L1 then having another loan to a championship club second half of the season or next.

Only because there is no tournament this year. If there was Alves would be golden boot and Sammy would be heart throb of the tournament. 
 

ok, you are probably right. Whatever happens it has to be the best loan for them. I do feel with the high ceiling these 2 should have though we should be quite demanding. 

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4 minutes ago, MalletFox said:

And what the hell does that say? 🤣

Two of the champions go with England U15

Hugo de Lisle and Jeremy Monga, champions of the PL Cup U16, will compete in the Vlatko Markovic Youth Tournament with their national team

Well-deserved award for two great talents

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