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Kdh

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Finnegan

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2 hours ago, Koke said:

I don't rate this guy. And it's not like he's 21 with huge potential. Sell him and move on. He's nit technically efficient enough.

 

If we get back to the Premier League and near immediately get back to targeting the top six then I'd agree with you. 

 

But as a Championship club about to lose Tielemans and Maddison this is actual lunacy. 

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Fox1norfolk

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9 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I don’t know, his form for pretty much 12+ months has been horrendous.

 

He genuinely struggles with simple passes and his first touch at times is Sunday League level.

 

Will he even be technically gifted enough to play Enzo football?

 

I hope that I’m wrong as after his first season was a big fan but so many flaws are in his game that just by dropping a level will gloss over.

 

10 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I don’t know, his form for pretty much 12+ months has been horrendous.

 

He genuinely struggles with simple passes and his first touch at times is Sunday League level.

 

Will he even be technically gifted enough to play Enzo football?

 

I hope that I’m wrong as after his first season was a big fan but so many flaws are in his game that just by dropping a level will gloss over.

The big question is how many of the existing squad are technically gifted for Enzo, bearing in mind the players he worked with at MC ?

SafewayFox

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5 minutes ago, Fox1norfolk said:

 

The big question is how many of the existing squad are technically gifted for Enzo, bearing in mind the players he worked with at MC ?

Totally get that but from last seasons CM, I know Youri and Mendy have already left but sadly KDH is technically the least gifted of them all.

 

I want to be wrong and agree with Ric on KDH but don’t know if his work rate, which I don’t think was a evident this season compared to his first would be enough for a team with serious considerations of “out playing” other teams aka like Burnley did last season etc 

GingerrrFox

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If his previous teams are anything to go by, he likes to have a deep lying playmaker flanked by 2 out and out runners in a 4-3-3.
 

Braybrooke as the playmaker

KDH on one side and then Hamza/new CM looks logical to me. 

LCFCJohn

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1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

I don’t know, his form for pretty much 12+ months has been horrendous.

 

He genuinely struggles with simple passes and his first touch at times is Sunday League level.

 

Will he even be technically gifted enough to play Enzo football?

 

I hope that I’m wrong as after his first season was a big fan but so many flaws are in his game that just by dropping a level will gloss over.

As you say in the bolded bit, he showed good signs when first in the team.

 

For this reason and that we are down a league ourselves, surely we need to give him the chance to show whether his stagnation is a symptom of confidence, poor coaching and being part of a deteriorating team or whether he is genuinely not gong to improve.

 

If the former, new coach, being in the Championship and having a squad clear out gives him the chance to go again. If he doesn’t excel at this level, then we know.

Clever Fox

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

If we get back to the Premier League and near immediately get back to targeting the top six then I'd agree with you. 

 

But as a Championship club about to lose Tielemans and Maddison this is actual lunacy. 

No it isn't lunacy. He can't control the Ball never mind the Game. He can't dictate play like Maddison or Tielemans.

All he has is a good engine and effort. We need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Yes I know the standard will be coming back down to his level but we need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Unless Enzo has some master plan for him I'd take the money.

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Finnegan

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31 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

No it isn't lunacy. He can't control the Ball never mind the Game. He can't dictate play like Maddison or Tielemans.

All he has is a good engine and effort. We need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Yes I know the standard will be coming back down to his level but we need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Unless Enzo has some master plan for him I'd take the money.

 

He was one of the best midfielders in the league last time he was in the Championship and we need to rebuild half the squad. Getting rid of players who can actually do a job at this level is lunacy. 

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Fosse93

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2 hours ago, GingerrrFox said:

If his previous teams are anything to go by, he likes to have a deep lying playmaker flanked by 2 out and out runners in a 4-3-3.
 

Braybrooke as the playmaker

KDH on one side and then Hamza/new CM looks logical to me. 

Is there any timescale on when Braybrooke will be back?

 

Think Maresca would've really took a liking to him and Alves, so would be a shame if they're unable to participate for a good while yet.

weller54

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3 hours ago, Fox1norfolk said:

 

The big question is how many of the existing squad are technically gifted for Enzo, bearing in mind the players he worked with at MC ?

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Clever Fox

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49 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

He was one of the best midfielders in the league last time he was in the Championship and we need to rebuild half the squad. Getting rid of players who can actually do a job at this level is lunacy. 

I don't think so, He just looked good in a poor team.

You can't have attacks break down because he fumbles the Ball or misplaces a simple pass.

As I said the Championship is about his level so I expect him to look and do better. 

 

Remember Enzo is coming from Man City he's used to players who can keep the Ball and dictate play.

If we're serious about going straight back up we need better.

 

But it's all about opinions.

 

 

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Babylon

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1 hour ago, Clever Fox said:

No it isn't lunacy. He can't control the Ball never mind the Game. He can't dictate play like Maddison or Tielemans.

All he has is a good engine and effort. We need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Yes I know the standard will be coming back down to his level but we need more than that if we are to get out of this division quickly.

 

Unless Enzo has some master plan for him I'd take the money.

Even if he’s not 100% what the manager wants, we already need to buy numerous midfielders (let alone the rest). The last thing we need to do is have to buy more of them. 


He’s perfectly good enough to be one of the better midfielders in the league. 

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Babylon

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14 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I don't think so, He just looked good in a poor team.

You can't have attacks break down because he fumbles the Ball or misplaces a simple pass.

As I said the Championship is about his level so I expect him to look and do better. 

 

Remember Enzo is coming from Man City he's used to players who can keep the Ball and dictate play.

If we're serious about going straight back up we need better.

 

But it's all about opinions.

 

 

The manager is going to have to adjust his style for a while. We aren’t going to be able to swap the whole team out for his style straight away. 

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LCFCJohn

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26 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I don't think so, He just looked good in a poor team.

You can't have attacks break down because he fumbles the Ball or misplaces a simple pass.

As I said the Championship is about his level so I expect him to look and do better. 

 

Remember Enzo is coming from Man City he's used to players who can keep the Ball and dictate play.

If we're serious about going straight back up we need better.

 

But it's all about opinions.

 

 

If Enzo is a good as coach (emphasise on this not manager) as his reputation and working under Pep etc, I’d like to think he could bring on players like KDH, Thomas etc and build on their weaknesses. 
 

These are young lads who since coming into the first team fold for us have been poorly coached. Much more senior players have looked really poor and regressed over the past 18 months/2 years. 
 

Personally I think we need a clean slate situation with whichever players we do end up retaining and see what they can offer under a new coach, with a new system and importantly new teammates as things have clearly been very stale (not helped by the none existent window last summer).

 

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ScrumpyJack

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6 hours ago, Koke said:

I don't rate this guy. And it's not like he's 21 with huge potential. Sell him and move on. He's nit technically efficient enough.

Do you got to many matches, or watch more on TV? Have been really impressed with him, he’s got a decent game when it comes to tackles and interceptions, he’s one of the few to press constantly and has got a decent dribble on him. If he can improve his passing he’ll be a decent player.

 

Didn’t have the best season last year, but as unit that’s a burden they should all share. Also, Rodgers demonstrated he’s not a manager that can improve players with ~95% of the talent coming through or into the squad barely progressing under him. 

 

Excited to see him hopefully get a fresh start under Maresca and get moving.

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KFS

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Enzo needs a couple of runners and he certainly is that. Need him to bring that hunger he brought back in his first pre-season with us. Topped all the running charts 

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fkas

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If another club comes in with a big offer then fine but otherwise I'd hope we keep hold of KDH. He had injury issues last season and will be easily good enough to dominate in the Championship. 

 

We want to be concentrating on bringing in a few quality additions not having to spend the whole summer buying a new squad.

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Lambert09

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If I see anyone suggesting cairney will be good but also suggesting we should sell kdh you get an instant block. 

 

Our fans are just desperate to hound our own out. KDH would be first on the team sheet for me in the championship. Absolutely bossed it the last time he was here 

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Whilst not technically brilliant, think KDH will do well with Maresca next year. MacAllister without the same technical ability and should be more than good enough in the left half space at Championship level

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