Popular Post fazzyfox Posted 14 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 14 June 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 18:06, Sol thewall Bamba said: The fact that ANY of our multiple shite loses/draws would have saved us if we turned them into a win. Brentford (H) Southampton (H) Chelsea (A) Bournemouth (A) Palace (H) Liverpool (A) Southampton (A) Bournemouth (H) Leeds (A) Everton (H) Thank you so much James Maddison. If we could have just turned ONE of them into a win we would have survived. Brentford at home on a boiling hot opening day, clinging on to a lead, oh if only we had more substitutions remaining to freshen the legs as our opponents did that day.....oh hang on 6 3
Popular Post OntarioFox Posted 14 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 14 June 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fazzyfox said: Brentford at home on a boiling hot opening day, clinging on to a lead, oh if only we had more substitutions remaining to freshen the legs as our opponents did that day.....oh hang on This is it, isn't it? We can point to tactical faux pas' in the other games mentioned, or individual mistakes blowing three points, but the two dropped against Brentford were sheer, petty negligence from Rodgers to presumably make a point about not being backed in the summer. We would not have dropped those points if not for his shitty little protest leaving us running on empty by the 70 minute mark. The moron should have been sacked there and then, but the board were too scared to. At this point, I blame both in equal measure before the players. Edited 14 June 2023 by OntarioFox 9 1
SheppyFox Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 Top has the ultimate power, failure (and success) hinges on his decisions. His old man would have sacked Rodgers faster, we wouldn’t be relegated. Top is weak and feeble, has a tendency to suffer sycophants and is far too indecisive for my liking.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 It has to be Rodgers and the players. Rodgers clearly did not want to be there and his demeanor and words said as much. The quality of the squad SHOULD have seen us mid-table at worst. Too many downed tools and had no stomach for a fight. Good riddance to most of them that go.
Tuna Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 The players always seem to get a pass from a lot on here - me included - they were capable of getting us out of the mess and failed. Still can't see past Top for ultimate responsibility for the relegation. 1
The boy Linacre Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 40 minutes ago, fazzyfox said: Brentford at home on a boiling hot opening day, clinging on to a lead, oh if only we had more substitutions remaining to freshen the legs as our opponents did that day.....oh hang on Bodgers wanted to prove the point we needed the team/squad freshening up, and we had nothing on the bench, Frank made 5 changes, 2 pts lost. Child. 4
The Doctor Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 1 hour ago, OntarioFox said: This is it, isn't it? We can point to tactical faux pas' in the other games mentioned, or individual mistakes blowing three points, but the two dropped against Brentford were sheer, petty negligence from Rodgers to presumably make a point about not being backed in the summer. We would not have dropped those points if not for his shitty little protest leaving us running on empty by the 70 minute mark. The moron should have been sacked there and then, but the board were too scared to. At this point, I blame both in equal measure before the players. I've said before but I don't see the difference between what Rodgers did then and Parkers comments a couple of weeks later. Arguably it's even worse as Parkers comments were a post match interview, Rodgers actions deliberately sabotaged an on pitch performance. 1
Buzzell Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 1 hour ago, Tuna said: The players always seem to get a pass from a lot on here - me included - they were capable of getting us out of the mess and failed. Still can't see past Top for ultimate responsibility for the relegation. True, the players should take a certain responsibility but it didn’t help with Rodgers’s shite tactics and lineups.
Gerard Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 2 hours ago, Fox92 said: No desire from the players. Rodgers. Top. The apathy and lethargy of the players is Rodgers fault, he set the tone for the whole club. Bad boss, bad workers. 1
Dames Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 Its all on the board now. Rodgers was awful but he was left in post far too long and it seems the inability to make a decision is carrying on. King Power need to sell us before their antics drag us even further downwards. 1
LCFCJohn Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 Rodgers and the players as this season gone, despite the issues and lack of investment last summer, this squad should not have gone down. That was on Rodgers and the players downing tools. Top and the board for not dealing with the above quickly enough. Even Dean Smith improved the PPG and nearly stayed up. Even after that Brentford game with the international break, we may have attracted a better candidate and had 3 further winnable games. Now though, Top and the Board. Even now, with the sellable assets, we have a golden opportunity to rebuild and I just don’t think they have a clue to manage it!
Gamble92 Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 3 hours ago, fazzyfox said: Brentford at home on a boiling hot opening day, clinging on to a lead, oh if only we had more substitutions remaining to freshen the legs as our opponents did that day.....oh hang on It's hard to defend isn't it? You think surely a manager wouldn't genuinely risk a result to prove a point, then you get Brendan Rodgers. 2
OntarioFox Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 1 hour ago, The Doctor said: I've said before but I don't see the difference between what Rodgers did then and Parkers comments a couple of weeks later. Arguably it's even worse as Parkers comments were a post match interview, Rodgers actions deliberately sabotaged an on pitch performance. Rodgers was worse because of what you've said. He just used enough weasel words to tiptoe around directly attacking the board, but then went and did something linked to his discontent which cost us what proved to be two vital points - and set the tone for the entire season. Parker would probably have lasted longer if the Bournemouth board were as spineless as ours, mind. He didn't say anything that wasn't blatantly implied by Rodgers - his mistake was being too on the nose about it. I don't want him here for footballing reasons, but I'd at least appreciate a bit of honesty from the dugout if it ends up being so.
lcfceed Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 5 hours ago, los dedos said: You blame the section of fans that wanted Rodgers out but also blame Rodgers 🤔 The fans who boored contributed to unrest and anxiety within the footballing camp. Rodgers made some shocking signings that did likewise.
Foxxed Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 28 minutes ago, TeamRocket said: Everyone even the tea lady Also, the grounds people aren't getting enough hate in my opinion.
filbertway Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 At first it was Brendan as he was clearly the problem, then Rudkin kept letting the guy fail and take us further backwards. At some point, if you don't take the toddler out of the drivers seat, you have to take responsibility for it.
Happy Fox Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 53 minutes ago, filbertway said: At first it was Brendan as he was clearly the problem, then Rudkin kept letting the guy fail and take us further backwards. At some point, if you don't take the toddler out of the drivers seat, you have to take responsibility for it. Common denominator is Top. 1
smudgerfox Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 I don’t know how many people watched the Conference semi away leg on TV but you may remember a little pre match film BT did about the closeness and (ahem) mutual admiration of Mourinho and Brendan (from Chelsea days apparently) . TBH just watching Brendan suck up to that dickhead was bad enough but Ive thought about it a lot since as BR’s behaviour has been classic Jose. Set fire to the house, tell everyone it’s not your fault while standing with a can of paraffin in hand, and being paid handsomely to leave the scene of your own crime…
los dedos Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 1 hour ago, lcfceed said: The fans who boored contributed to unrest and anxiety within the footballing camp. Rodgers made some shocking signings that did likewise. Jeez hope any of our players don't ever play in Italy, bless them 🙄 Oh and fans not booing contributed to Rodgers staying too long and ultimately relegation.
ian__marshall Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ric Flair said: The sympathy being given to Top is simply astonishing. What a lot of fans are failing to consider is the outcome of relegation isn't the definitive barometer of failure for us, we've been in freefall in more ways than just the results on the field. Even if we'd somehow stayed up, do you think Top has grasped what's gone wrong and corrective action to give us the best possible opportunity to compete as a top 10 PL club to match the clubs confusing strategy? The answer to that appears to be a hard NO. If it's something else then there's scant evidence, nothing looks to be changing. We are potentially in a period of waiting for further decline and maybe action is finally taken or more likely, his family are forced to sell up. I hope I'm wrong but the club has done itself no favours in the way they conduct themselves. I agree with this wholeheartedly Ric. I've tried not to judge Top too harshly as I think he's been through a heck of a lot since his father tragically lost his life, and given the circumstances I actually think he's done relatively well to hold it all together as in reality I don't think he's ever really had a chance to grieve and reflect. That said (and truth be told I wonder whether he himself recognises the need) I do think he's culpable for not bringing in and delegating the duties of the club to a vastly experienced football CEO (I.e. Not Rudkin) to buy him some time with his family to re-evaluate priorities. Unfortunately for us as supporters, it very much feels like a lot of the blatantly obvious concerns are passing by unrecognised which is worrying to say the least. Consequently I am getting to the point where I'm having to question his leadership as he's the one person within the club who can effect change. Listening to the BSLB podcast yesterday I think you made a really valid suggestion with regards to Top bringing in a top tier DoF and promoting Rudkin to Director Dogsbody for King Power. As much as I feel Rudkin is out of his depth as DoF, putting my bias to the side as a fan of the club and trying to view his performance objectively (albeit through the eyes of someone needing an urgent visit to Specsavers) there is an argument that when you take everything into account over the course of his tenure he has done an average/acceptable job (I must stress that this isn't my opinion, he's far from done a good job, and if he worked for me I'd have replaced him a long while ago). I watched a fascinating Podcast on BT Sport the other week with the Brighton CEO Paul Barber where he outlines how they've adapted their approach to managing the club and it's truly light years ahead of where we are currently. I'd strongly advise Top and Suzie to sit down together and watch the interview as it'd give them some real food for thought. Link to the podcast is here for those who haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/lsehfEYzj9U Edited 14 June 2023 by ian__marshall 1
lcfceed Posted 14 June 2023 Posted 14 June 2023 4 hours ago, los dedos said: Jeez hope any of our players don't ever play in Italy, bless them 🙄 Oh and fans not booing contributed to Rodgers staying too long and ultimately relegation. This is where Top made an horrendous error. In January, he should have made it clear to Rodgers that he would never see the £10M sacking fee, and if relegated, he would be still manager. Rodgers wouldn't want that, and avoid relegation. Rodgers orchestrated the sacking-fee clause, Top is a shit poker player.
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