James Justin

[Richmondfox]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

I feel like I am talking to a toddler who hasnt fully developed, do I really need to spell things out for people, jesus, here we go, one attempt at it, stay focused.  If you dont understand any of my points please let me know.

So the highlights for the second goal starts with a stray pass going to JJ, (this someone explained in the replies, it took a long time to get there, but we got there in the end).

 

JJ seemed a bit indecisive, but ends up passing to our number 10, who isnt alert to it and the posession is lost.

At this point JJ is isolated with no one close to him, he correctly targets the number 22 whilst our number 10 is passive.

Sadly he is unable to get to the ball, and I think the only way he prevents the play progressing would be to foul their player, e.g. holding them back.

The player does a low paced cross into the box, two of our defenders dont react to it quick enough and goalie dives the wrong way,

 

So if you want my opinion, JJ could have done better but the same for 3 other of our players as well, as I said its a team game.

 

Yes he could have booted it out when he had the ball, I assume he didnt due to coaching instructions.

Someone has polished off the Christmas port. 

[adam]

1 minute ago, Chrysalis said:

I feel like I am talking to a toddler who hasnt fully developed, do I really need to spell things out for people, jesus, here we go, one attempt at it, stay focused.  If you dont understand any of my points please let me know.

So the highlights for the second goal starts with a stray pass going to JJ, (this someone explained in the replies, it took a long time to get there, but we got there in the end).

 

JJ seemed a bit indecisive, but ends up passing to our number 10, who isnt alert to it and the posession is lost.

At this point JJ is isolated with no one close to him, he correctly targets the number 22 whilst our number 10 is passive.

Sadly he is unable to get to the ball, and I think the only way he prevents the play progressing would be to foul their player, e.g. holding them back.

The player does a low paced cross into the box, two of our defenders dont react to it quick enough and goalie dives the wrong way,

 

So if you want my opinion, JJ could have done better but the same for 3 other of our players as well, as I said its a team game.

 

Yes he could have booted it out when he had the ball, I assume he didnt due to coaching instructions.

You're on the wind up now. No chance can you watch that and come out with that nonsense.

[dillonpanthers87]

3 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

I feel like I am talking to a toddler who hasnt fully developed, do I really need to spell things out for people, jesus, here we go, one attempt at it, stay focused.  If you dont understand any of my points please let me know.

So the highlights for the second goal starts with a stray pass going to JJ, (this someone explained in the replies, it took a long time to get there, but we got there in the end).

 

JJ seemed a bit indecisive, but ends up passing to our number 10, who isnt alert to it and the possession is lost.  At this point one of our players should have closed up to give support.

At this point JJ is isolated with no one close to him, he correctly targets the number 22 whilst our number 10 is passive.

Sadly he is unable to get to the ball, and I think the only way he prevents the play progressing would be to foul their player, e.g. holding them back.

The player does a low paced cross into the box, two of our defenders dont react to it quick enough and goalie dives the wrong way,

 

So if you want my opinion, JJ could have done better but the same for 3 other of our players as well, as I said its a team game.

 

Yes he could have booted it out when he had the ball, I assume he didnt due to coaching instructions.

 

It still hasnt been explained how villa were so far forward up the pitch.  I expect all you guys think thats not relevant to the play.

Either trolling or something else.

 

He had 10 seconds on the ball and multiple options. You could see it in real time developing.

[Chrysalis]

5 minutes ago, adam said:

You're on the wind up now. No chance can you watch that and come out with that nonsense.

Well here is the thing, I am looking at the footage from a rationale non biased view point, the way a manager would look at, the over strategical part of the play.

 

Whilst you guys are looking at it like a prosecutor in a court would looking to blame an individual, so we are looking it in different ways and coming up with different interpretations.

 

I am not trolling people, and I never troll on forums, thats childish.

The thing of itnerest as well, you feel so strongly about this one player, you just wont let this go, I bet if I was to carry on replying with arguments, we would still be here at 6am.  The fact this bothers you so much kind of proves my point.

 

So yeah I have made my point, and will end it here, there may be more replies calling me names and what not, but thank you to the person who explained how the ball got to JJ's feet, and we will never know I guess how villa got up the pitch unless someone checks a recording of the game or remembers what happened.

 

For what its worth I do think JJ should be LB not RB, and has confidence issues right now, where I disagree with you guys, is putting sole responsibility on to him for goals conceded.

Edited 5 January by Chrysalis

[adam]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

Well here is the thing, I am looking at the footage from a rationale non biased view point, the way a manager would look at, the over strategical part of the play.

 

Whilst you guys are looking at it like a prosecutor in a court would looking to blame an individual, so we are looking it in different whats and coming up with different interpretations.

 

I am not trolling people, and I never troll on forums, thats childish.

The thing of itnerest as well, you feel so strongly about this one player, you just wont let this go, I bet if I was to carry on replying with arguments, we would still be here at 6am.  The fact this bothers you so much kind of proves my point.

You must have the wrong game on. .

[dillonpanthers87]

3 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Well here is the thing, I am looking at the footage from a rationale non biased view point, the way a manager would look at, the over strategical part of the play.

 

Whilst you guys are looking at it like a prosecutor in a court would looking to blame an individual, so we are looking it in different ways and coming up with different interpretations.

 

I am not trolling people, and I never troll on forums, thats childish.

The thing of itnerest as well, you feel so strongly about this one player, you just wont let this go, I bet if I was to carry on replying with arguments, we would still be here at 6am.  The fact this bothers you so much kind of proves my point.

 

So yeah I have made my point, and will end it here, there may be more replies calling me names and what not, but thank you to the person who explained how the ball got to JJ's feet, and we will never know I guess how villa got up the pitch unless someone checks a recording of the game or remembers what happened.

 

For what its worth I do think JJ should be LB not RB, and has confidence issues right now, where I disagree with you guys, is putting sole responsibility on to him for goals conceded.

Without only looking at your 30 sec highlights - you will see he has been arguably (putting Ward aside) the lowest performing player of the 11. That is putting it kindly. The lad looks lost. Positionally, mentally, he doesn't look fit. Today is just another example of that. Yes the team has a responsibility to defend as a team - but compare him to VK - Victor, while I like him, is a decent/good LB at best. Their performance levels are worlds apart this season. I would take a high performing L1 right back over JJ right now. Justin needs looking after as a human too. Nothing personal against him, he seems an honest lad, just run down. 

[Finnegan]

47 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Tbf you’ve just described his form as hideous so if he reads that it’s not going to help his state of mind! 
 

The fact is he needs a rest from the 1st team. His mistakes have been critical and have undoubtedly cost us points. Hamza playing out of position is not going to be any worse than Justin playing in his natural position whilst he is in this ‘hideous’ form.
 

Keeping him in the first team when he’s in this cycle of form is not helping him. RVN giving him a rest (and he CAN swap with Hamza) will help him far more than people not posting criticism on this or any other forum for fear of JJ doom scrolling through here.

 

It’s up to RVN and his coaching staff to do the right thing - they’ve done it with Ward, they HAVE to do it with JJ if we are to have any chance of survival. It’s as critical as that. 
 

 

 

 

 

But we don't pick the team, pal. 

 

We can't control who Ruud picks. 

 

What we can control is how we, as fans, treat the players that play for our club. 

 

My point is just that, however poor his form might be at the moment, we don't need to cross a line. 

 

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

Says a lot about his complete lack of understanding of the game that he didn't even have the intelligence/ability to commit a cynical fail to get us out of the trouble he caused. 

 

He's been exposed most of the season by having nothing in front of him helping him, but don't recall Mahrez defending much to help Danny Simpson out and he did okay. If you're in the team as a right back just be good at defending when you're battling the drop. Thomas proved today that someone of limited ability if they just stuck to their task as a defender can be effective.

[Fazzer 7]

The more you look at villa's 2nd the worse it is. I never want to see bloody Justin in this side again. If he is questions must be asked about RVN's judgement. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I completely understand the frustrations but with Ricardo injured I am not sure what other options he has available to him other than Hamza who is a utility player not good enough to be a championship regular starter, or promote an academy prospect who may not be ready and risk ruining them before there career has barely stated. This is down to our poor recruitment. 

[marcymarc666]

I've just looked at this goal for the first time. I don't think it's Justin's fault. The ball has enough pace on it to reach Ayew if he keeps running towards it, but he stops in order to faint ( dummy) the Villa player, who carries on running and gets it.

Ayew is to blame here.

[Dickov22]

Terrible from JJ but Ayew does absolutely nothing to help him either. Very poor from both players. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

15 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

The more you look at villa's 2nd the worse it is. I never want to see bloody Justin in this side again. If he is questions must be asked about RVN's judgement. 

I 100% agree, but there is literally no one else available. Maybe an academy kid, but that comes with risk in a team who are struggling. However, I think we’re now at the point - like Ward - where a change is needed even if it’s an unproven kid.

 

I’ve just seen this, and while 3 or 4 are harsh to lay at JJs door the rest aren’t. It’s quite unbelievable really. I really do think we’d be mid table with a competent right back. What on earth has happened to him.

 

 

[alanf0x]

A right back should be a priority this week. Get them in for QPR ready to attack the x2 home league games.

 

Im sure Rudkin has all under control though 

[volpeazzurro]

7 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Well here is the thing, I am looking at the footage from a rationale non biased view point, the way a manager would look at, the over strategical part of the play.

 

Whilst you guys are looking at it like a prosecutor in a court would looking to blame an individual, so we are looking it in different ways and coming up with different interpretations.

 

I am not trolling people, and I never troll on forums, thats childish.

The thing of itnerest as well, you feel so strongly about this one player, you just wont let this go, I bet if I was to carry on replying with arguments, we would still be here at 6am.  The fact this bothers you so much kind of proves my point.

 

So yeah I have made my point, and will end it here, there may be more replies calling me names and what not, but thank you to the person who explained how the ball got to JJ's feet, and we will never know I guess how villa got up the pitch unless someone checks a recording of the game or remembers what happened.

 

For what its worth I do think JJ should be LB not RB, and has confidence issues right now, where I disagree with you guys, is putting sole responsibility on to him for goals conceded.

It was quite reasonable until you said he should be at left back because he's even worse there, a complete liability! Not only is he persistently out of position looking confused as if he's in a dream, when he does try to move up the pitch, he constantly has to move inside which Premier League defenders recognise almost instantly. Yet, there was a time a few years ago before his terrible injuries that I too thought he was very decent on the left and he was on the cusp of being picked for England.  However, those days are well gone and sadly we are left with a shell of a player.

 

He's supposedly a very genuine professional and by all accounts, a very decent and dedicated individual which, compared to perhaps some other players we've had, makes it quite tragic. Undoubtedly injuries have sadly taken their toll but I believe the main effect has been in his head. To me he's a player who's confidence is shot and he needs help. He plays in fear. Had Ruud got an alternative right back he needs a spell out of the limelight. I don't pretend to know understand the work of a sports psychologist and how successful they can be but poor JJ is crying out for one just imo.

[adejo92]

7 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

But we don't pick the team, pal. 

 

We can't control who Ruud picks. 

 

What we can control is how we, as fans, treat the players that play for our club. 

 

My point is just that, however poor his form might be at the moment, we don't need to cross a line. 

 

To be fair, this is a fan base that claps you off for the worst performances known to man.

 

A fan base that will clap you off after a disgraceful relegation. 

 

If its at a stage where fans of this club boo or abuse you, it's probably time to hang up your boots / gloves.

 

JJ is single handedly relegating us, in fact, we'll probably find that the damages is already done when you look at the points he's cost us. 

 

Now I'm not one for 'bullying' but let's not pretend JJ's up against Italian or South American Ultras.

 

RVN needs to take him out of the team, Choudhury genuinely can't not be any worse. Even if he's just as bad, take JJ out for his own good, confidence is none existant,  he must dread match days.

[Claridge]

8 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

You havent said what those options are, I am still waiting.  Thank you for confirming you relying on MOTD highlights.  In my opinion you cant judge these things without full coverage, as there is a bigger picture.

 

How did the ball even get to Justin's area in the first place?

are you James Justin?

[Happy Fox]

Play someone like Jayden Joseph honestly he cannot be any worse , it’s crazy that’s he still being selected he’s crap at this level.

[Matt]

11 hours ago, Scoop Dog said:

Understood. I didn't get chance to watch the entire game. Could they have been told to not hoof it and play out the back. 

Not my team.

 

If you want that ruffian type of play get down Welford Road! 

[Fazzer 7]

36 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I 100% agree, but there is literally no one else available. Maybe an academy kid, but that comes with risk in a team who are struggling. However, I think we’re now at the point - like Ward - where a change is needed even if it’s an unproven kid.

 

I’ve just seen this, and while 3 or 4 are harsh to lay at JJs door the rest aren’t. It’s quite unbelievable really. I really do think we’d be mid table with a competent right back. What on earth has happened to him.

 

 

I'd rather see Hamza in there tbh. Impossible to do any worse. 

[adejo92]

14 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

I'd rather see Hamza in there tbh. Impossible to do any worse. 

I'd actually rather the club run a competition, or pick someone from fan cam than stick with JJ.

 

I'd argue that Filbert would probably be an improvement. 

 

But yeah, I'm with you on Hamza. I'm not saying he's an improvement,  but he can't be any worse and it might give the other players some confidence knowing he's behind them rather than JJ (and that's saying something!)

Edited 5 January by adejo92

[FrankieADZ]

thing with JJ, his confidence is massively shot, i dont think hes awful, i dont think hes amazing either

injuries have defo set him back massively

think just for him as a person he needs some time on the bench, 

[VLC86]

6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

thing with JJ, his confidence is massively shot, i dont think hes awful, i dont think hes amazing either

injuries have defo set him back massively

think just for him as a person he needs some time on the bench, 

At another club.

[Leicester_Loyal]

52 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

To be fair, this is a fan base that claps you off for the worst performances known to man.

 

A fan base that will clap you off after a disgraceful relegation. 

 

If its at a stage where fans of this club boo or abuse you, it's probably time to hang up your boots / gloves.

 

JJ is single handedly relegating us, in fact, we'll probably find that the damages is already done when you look at the points he's cost us. 

 

Now I'm not one for 'bullying' but let's not pretend JJ's up against Italian or South American Ultras.

 

RVN needs to take him out of the team, Choudhury genuinely can't not be any worse. Even if he's just as bad, take JJ out for his own good, confidence is none existant,  he must dread match days.

Spot on this. We’re far too nice as a fanbase and have been for years. The sad reality is it took us about 3 years and 1 relegation to even start to get on Wards back. Now the same will happen with Justin. 
 

We’ve got to sign a RB before the next PL game, the damage being done is almost fatal in our quest to stay up. 

[FrankieADZ]

11 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

At another club.

tbf i do think he'll be gone in the summer