Tactics Under Maresca

[An Sionnach]

I love all these managers with their charts and analysis , big white boards and profound tactical insight. They usually end up sacked and talking bollocks in after match discussions on Sky Sports. The game nearly always laughs at their presumption.

Edited 26 July 2023 by An Sionnach

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, An Sionnach said:

I love all these managers with their charts and analysis , big white boards and profound tactical insight. They usually end up sacked and talking bollocks in after match discussions on Sky Sports. The game nearly always laughs at their presumption.

Yeah cop a load of this guy, who does he think he is!?

 

 

 

Edited 26 July 2023 by StriderHiryu

[Lillehamring]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

It seems to me as if most LCFC see Rudkin as a dim person when they probably don't even know him.

And also believe he is part of the scouting set up, apparently 

[An Sionnach]

With Pep , he has always had the best players and the most money. When he applies his advanced tactics to Grimsby and wins the CL , I will be impressed but of course they would still get their arse kicked . If you haven't got quality players no tactic works in the end. .

[Big_Nige]

1 minute ago, An Sionnach said:

With Pep , he has always had the best players and the most money. When he applies his advanced tactics to Grimsby and wins the CL , I will be impressed but of course they would still get their arse kicked . If you haven't got quality players no tactic works in the end. .

Of course Money helps, but the guy is a genius. Constantly redeveloping his tactics, refreshing his first XI, improving players and coming up with new ways to solve the same problems. He’s rightly one of the all time greats. Coaches up and down the world copy him. He’s redefined the way football is played from grass roots to the champions league and has had the same cultural effect on football tactics and playing style as Cruyff

The fact he wouldn’t take Grimsby from league 2 to world domination in 3 years only on free transfers is a bit of weird argument 

 

[Rhysm]

22 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

With Pep , he has always had the best players and the most money. When he applies his advanced tactics to Grimsby and wins the CL , I will be impressed but of course they would still get their arse kicked . If you haven't got quality players no tactic works in the end. .

If the only way a manager can impress you is to win CL with Grimsby I think you need to find another sport. 

[An Sionnach]

7 minutes ago, Big_Nige said:

Of course Money helps, but the guy is a genius. Constantly redeveloping his tactics, refreshing his first XI, improving players and coming up with new ways to solve the same problems. He’s rightly one of the all time greats. Coaches up and down the world copy him. He’s redefined the way football is played from grass roots to the champions league and has had the same cultural effect on football tactics and playing style as Cruyff

The fact he wouldn’t take Grimsby from league 2 to world domination in 3 years only on free transfers is a bit of weird argument 

 

Thing is BR was one of those coaches who copied him and look what happened. Fergie took a bunch of kids , a cheap Russian winger and an unmanageable Frenchman to dominance . I was impressed with that.

[JimmyC74]

2 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Thing is BR was one of those coaches who copied him and look what happened. Fergie took a bunch of kids , a cheap Russian winger and an unmanageable Frenchman to dominance . I was impressed with that.

That Fergie team had a load of investment- likes of Pallister, Ince, etc….has always been the case that success often is based on money and tactics.

[Big_Nige]

3 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Thing is BR was one of those coaches who copied him and look what happened. Fergie took a bunch of kids , a cheap Russian winger and an unmanageable Frenchman to dominance . I was impressed with that.

Fergie was also a genius. Especially how he’d constantly refresh his team, brave in trusting Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Butt etc when it would have been easier to buy ready made players. But didn’t Man U also have the most money at that time? Andy Cole / Dwight Yorke / Jaap Stam etc etc.  They spent nearly £30m over 20 years ago on Veron. 
 

And Rodgers, a student of maybe, but he was and is tactically rigid. Nothing like Pep at all in reality. Rodgers is good at galvanising a club, he was great here for 2 years regardless of what anyone says, but the 2 years after he stunk the place out. Over his career he’s shown he can’t evolve teams and leaves them in a worse place

[HankMarvin]

Leicester City midfielder Harry Winks has revealed that manager Enzo Maresca will change his style of play depending on the opposition this season.

Winks has gone in-depth about the manager's tactical philosophies in a recent interview while on tour with the squad in Thailand. When asking about Maresca's tactics, the former Tottenham man revealed that City will be open to playing with many different styles, dependent on how the opposition are lining up on the day. 

"His style changes all the time, depending on the opposition," Winks told BBC Radio Leicester's When You're Smiling podcast. "The whole team, from when we've spoken with the manager so far, is to be fluid and open to different styles, different aspects of formation and how we move and play.

 

The main impetus is on playing and keeping the ball. And when we lose the ball, to be aggressive on the opposition and to be pressing high. His style is perfect for the lads here, everybody's enjoying it so far and everybody's really buying into it, which is good. There's definitely a nice quality feel in the club and everybody's on the same page."

Winks has been playing alongside Ricardo Pereira in the build-up phase this summer, with the Portuguese star coming in from right-back to provide support in midfield as Leicester progress up the pitch. While not something Winks is used to, it's something he is enjoying. He had plenty of praise for his "brilliant" new teammate, too.

"First of all, Ricardo's a top player," Winks said. "Since I've come here, (I've realised) Ricardo can play anywhere. He's technically really, really good. Intelligent player as well. The fact he's a right-back (coming inside) doesn't make any difference because he can play anywhere.

[copunk]

The pressing from the games we have been able to watch so far, is what has caught my eye 

It's clear Enzo wants us to win the ball back as soon as possible

Whilst it's a risk v reward type of set up, and no doubt we will concede a fair few goals from it and need to be fit for the full 90, it's sure going to be exciting to watch 

[Grebfromgrebland]

Be interesting to see if we have the quality of player to actually implement his tactics effectively. It normally took Pep a season in integrate a world class player into his teams.

 

Maresca has to teach lesser skilled and intelligent (football wise) players in the matter of weeks and some of those players will be gone and replaced by others by September.

 

Teams playing us for the first 10 games should be licking their lips while us fans will have to be unusually patient and be prepared to see some shocking performances.

Edited 28 July 2023 by Grebfromgrebland

[Dan]

Rodgers thinks he's like Pep but he really isn't.

[messerschmitt]

8 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Be interesting to see if we have the quality of player to actually implement his tactics effectively. It normally took Pep a season in integrate a world class player into his teams.

 

Maresca has to teach lesser skilled and intelligent (football wise) players in the matter of weeks and done if that players will be gone and replaced by others by September.

 

Teams playing us for the first 10 games should be licking their lips while us fans will have to be unusually patient and be prepared to see some shocking performances.

Yeah I think it will be, luckily for us Pep had to do it against Premier league teams. The Premier league is very unforgiving, make a mistake and your a goal down, you get away with more in the Championship, I remember the Blackburn game last season, we should have been 5 down at half time but only lost 2.1

[Les-TA-Jon]

On 26/07/2023 at 23:00, An Sionnach said:

I love all these managers with their charts and analysis , big white boards and profound tactical insight. They usually end up sacked and talking bollocks in after match discussions on Sky Sports. The game nearly always laughs at their presumption.

Tell me you're a reductionist dinosaur without telling me you're a reductionist dinosaur...

[fox_up_north]

I like Winks' comments about Maresca adapting to opposition. It seems so simple but my word we've been crying out for it.

[StriderHiryu]

18 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Be interesting to see if we have the quality of player to actually implement his tactics effectively. It normally took Pep a season in integrate a world class player into his teams.

 

Maresca has to teach lesser skilled and intelligent (football wise) players in the matter of weeks and done if that players will be gone and replaced by others by September.

 

Teams playing us for the first 10 games should be licking their lips while us fans will have to be unusually patient and be prepared to see some shocking performances.

 

I agree, I think the first 10 games could be pretty rough. Not only has the jolly to Thailand been less than ideal preparation, I don't think we've got the attacking players we need in fast enough. I'm very surprised at least one attacking player was not prioritised given how many players left over the summer.

 

I think we will have a good squad once deadline day is over, but expect us to have dropped points before then and might drop some more after as it takes time for the squad to gel.

[An Sionnach]

28 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Tell me you're a reductionist dinosaur without telling me you're a reductionist dinosaur...

The older I get , the more cynical I get. Wading through the bullshit gets more difficult by the day. I will not attack Maresca even if we struggle , he has been dealt a poor hand . Many on here will though , they can't help themselves.

[Rigga]

On 27/07/2023 at 08:15, An Sionnach said:

With Pep , he has always had the best players and the most money. When he applies his advanced tactics to Grimsby and wins the CL , I will be impressed but of course they would still get their arse kicked . If you haven't got quality players no tactic works in the end. .

It helps, but there’s no guarantee that spending big wins you trophies..

Plenty of clubs have spent way over the odds on

players and they have turned out to be duds..

 

Pep is a genius whether you take his achievements on board or not 

 

[sacreblueits442]

21 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

I agree, I think the first 10 games could be pretty rough. Not only has the jolly to Thailand been less than ideal preparation, I don't think we've got the attacking players we need in fast enough. I'm very surprised at least one attacking player was not prioritised given how many players left over the summer.

 

I think we will have a good squad once deadline day is over, but expect us to have dropped points before then and might drop some more after as it takes time for the squad to gel.

...I feel the system of play does take away the lack of attacking players we have failed to bring in!!!

Without being flippant, we are playing by numbers, it is a well-orchestrated and well-oiled machine but in effect, we do certain things to achieve results. We drop individuality for consistency, we strive for a coherent team that tries to be one step ahead of our opponents, by playing chess. At any given moment each player knows where he should be and what he is required to do in that instance.

 I still have worries about our defence, the transition from a 3 to a back 4 and the stretching of our back three when in possession and a breakdown in the middle and a quick ball by our opponents, played into the half-spaces

  Looking forward to the Liverpool game, to see perhaps the first eleven as that could well be a pointer to the team for the opening league game.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Is Enzo pouting next to Big Willy?

 

[sacreblueits442]

33 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

The older I get , the more cynical I get. Wading through the bullshit gets more difficult by the day. I will not attack Maresca even if we struggle , he has been dealt a poor hand . Many on here will though , they can't help themselves.

...how has he been dealt a poor hand!!!

There was a job offer, he sat down and discussed the details, he would have been made aware of our financial structure and offered the role. Unless the club has recently reneged on some kind of agreement, how has he been dealt a poor hand?

[sacreblueits442]

6 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Is Enzo pouting next to Big Willy?

 

...probably saw Wilf slide tackling Ricardo and watching all the hours put in training going down the pan!!!

I must admit, seeing this picture, it appears that Pep has cloned a few people and unlike the "Boys from Brazil", he has put things in place for total domination. Maresca was very much a reflection of Pep at Man. City, it is really strange that his assistant is a replica of himself.

[An Sionnach]

41 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...how has he been dealt a poor hand!!!

There was a job offer, he sat down and discussed the details, he would have been made aware of our financial structure and offered the role. Unless the club has recently reneged on some kind of agreement, how has he been dealt a poor hand?

When you are starting in management you discount the risk. I am sure he is well aware of the task.

Edited 28 July 2023 by An Sionnach

[Bilo]

On 27/07/2023 at 08:15, An Sionnach said:

With Pep , he has always had the best players and the most money. When he applies his advanced tactics to Grimsby and wins the CL , I will be impressed but of course they would still get their arse kicked . If you haven't got quality players no tactic works in the end. .

Sorry, but this is just a daft argument.

 

Pep gets jobs with the biggest and best clubs in the world for the same reason that players like Ronaldo and Messi have played for Real Madrid, Barcelona and PSG instead of Wigan, Scunthorpe and Benidorm.