LCFC Fans Consultative Committee Meeting 06/09/23 Minutes

[HitchinFox]

Mildred: What is that?
Union FS dude: Yeah what do you think? It's a feken tifo
Mildred: No it's not, it's a feken bunch of bedsheets sewn together. What are you, Joe Lycett? What are you doing with that? Gonna slide it in front of me? Sing me a song whilst I try and watch the walkout?
[Punches hole in the tifo and rips it]  I come here, right, for a feken walkout. A proper walkout with some proper men. Like Wortho and Birch. Like gladiators, like Conor McGregor or even the Bee Gees on the Clive Anderson show. You ever heard of them? No. Cause you're too busy fannying about with a sewing machines and feken bedsheets weren't ya?
[Turns to husband Reggie]: Reg. This lot are feken nonces to a man, they're feken nonces. Get this thing out of me feken way, go on, get it out, go on, fek off. Call yourself a feken fan.
[Turns angrily at Union FS bloke in a rage, spit everywhere while she talks]:  A WALKOUT, RIGHT, IS A FEKEN WALKOUT! Like a western.
[Sticks head back outside the peephole. muttering]: Feken embarrassing, waste of my time. FEKEN waste of my time!

[lfu]

12 hours ago, Stadt said:

On one of the BMA Facebook groups years ago somebody was complaining about a tifo, “My favourite bit of the game is when the players run out.” Not scoring, not celebrating, not the final whistle after a win - when the players run out.

Personally I watch the players walk out onto the pitch (my favourite part of every match 🤩🤩🤩), then when the ref blows his whistle to start the match I immediately walk out of my seat, down the steps and back into the concourse so I can spend the next 45 minutes buying overpriced Chang beer at the kiosks. Then I go back to my seat to watch the players walk out for the second half (my second favourite part of every match 🤩🤩🤩). When the second half kicks off, that's my cue to leave the ground nice and early so I can beat the traffic 

[smallpauldj]

That's it I've had enough, I'm putting in a complaint. Those bloody honesty flags keep blocking my view of a guy blowing a trumpet. 

[lcfc278]

Funny that the Champions League is referenced in the TIFO bit where people say they've 'missed out'. Our last game in the CL was nearly 6.5 years ago. Pathetic. Love the TIFO's, when we have one they whip the atmosphere up before the game, so sorry Mildred misses out on 2 minutes of the lads standing in a line and clapping/shaking hands.

 

Like someone said above you've got a very small group here, some are clearly family members, I have zero trust or confidence they are representing our whole fanbase and or have the correct priorities in what needs to be discussed in these very limited opportunities to sit down with the club.

[SemperEadem]

I do have some sympathy with those on first three or so rows however they are given the heads up every match day that their view will be blocked and for how long etc. They could if so wish stand in the aisle further up for the 1 minute or so to see the players lining up. Or perhaps more positively offer their help and assistance where by they could be still in a position to see and be creating something positive for the players and thousands of others.

 

We are also talking at max three games a season too.

Edited 17 October 2023 by SemperEadem

[Unabomber]

So who actually made that comment about missing players walk out? Someone at the meeting? It is staggering that that has been mentioned.

[Poznan34]

Wet Wipe FC

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, RoboFox said:

Was anyone from UFS there?

Yes, always present at FCC and similar meetings. 

[StanSP]

8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Yes, always present at FCC and similar meetings. 

What was the response to the person that mentioned the tifo 'issue'? Or non-issue! 

[SemperEadem]

Also not to do with the rights or wrongs of those with issues regarding the tifos the thing that got to me is taking it to this event.

There is a lot of Leicester fans I think are aware of UFS and how specifically at times they can be disagreements between them and the club. The club need no extra ammo to clamp down on UFS, especially around tifos.  We know this for sure as already this comment has seen the club knock back a proposed tifo and further create questions on materials used (wanting transparent materials ffs). Taking this issue to an occasion like the FCC on the clubs turf which is their meeting by rights just seems the wrong way to go about. 
 

Would it not have been better going to UFS directly and keeping the club out of it, supporter to supporter. 
Its clear where they are in the ground, they openly put of their contact details online and frankly the matchday stall would have been a great place for both parties to mediate.

But no the stall was culled by the club in wing clamping excerise.

 

Edited 17 October 2023 by SemperEadem

[CosbehFox]

Funny really if only they’d allowed UFS to have the pulley system they used for the champions league. They’d answer the issue of translucent materials there and then. 

[lcfc278]

11 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Also not to do with the rights or wrongs of those with issues regarding the tifos the thing that got to me is taking it to this event.

The a lot of Leicester fans I think are aware of UFS and how specifically at times they can be disagreements between them and the club. The club need no extra ammo to clamp down on UFS, especially around tifos.  We know this for sure as already this comment has seen the club knock back a proposed tifo and further create questions on materials used (wanting transparent materials ffs). Taking this issue to an occasion like the FCC on he clubs turf which is their meeting by rights just seems the wrong way to go about. 
 

Would it not have been better going to UFS directly and keeping the club out of it, supporter to supporter. 
Its clear where they are in the ground, they openly put of their contact details online and frankly the matchday stall would have been a great place for both parties to mediate.

But no the stall was culled by the club in wing clamping excerise.

 

I mean this genuinely, I do not know how you guys find the time or the strength to deal with the club for things like this - it is a good job you guys are all passionate about the club because with all the hoops and hurdles and jobsworth fans complaining about trivial things, I'd have jacked it in ages ago.

 

In my mind of recent years some of the big games, the big occasions, TIFO's and displays are what are dotted in my mind with the memories. It feels like it's something the club should want, they should be crying out for passionate fans but it seems the hierarchy at LCFC and some of the older-school fans don't want it. 

[Jackubu]

21 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Also not to do with the rights or wrongs of those with issues regarding the tifos the thing that got to me is taking it to this event.

There is a lot of Leicester fans I think are aware of UFS and how specifically at times they can be disagreements between them and the club. The club need no extra ammo to clamp down on UFS, especially around tifos.  We know this for sure as already this comment has seen the club knock back a proposed tifo and further create questions on materials used (wanting transparent materials ffs). Taking this issue to an occasion like the FCC on the clubs turf which is their meeting by rights just seems the wrong way to go about. 
 

Would it not have been better going to UFS directly and keeping the club out of it, supporter to supporter. 
Its clear where they are in the ground, they openly put of their contact details online and frankly the matchday stall would have been a great place for both parties to mediate.

But no the stall was culled by the club in wing clamping excerise.

 

For me it's a fan going proactively out of their way to make it more difficult for a group trying to make a positive difference. Mind blowing 

[FLAN]

17 hours ago, filbertway said:

 

Unironically not realising that by being part of the TIFO they're actually participating in an occasion.

 

Players walking out of the tunnel is not an occasion

 

Do the Tifo at the end of the games. Will mostly have left by then 

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, FLAN said:

Do the Tifo at the end of the games. Will mostly have left by then 

This is the kind of thinking that'd get you a quickly promoted within the King Power ranks

 

[jammie82uk]

3 hours ago, Craig said:

I also like how it states that it'll take no more than two weeks to distribute the minutes  

That’s the club distribution to people attending,  it means that foxes trust received them around a month ago 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

15 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

That’s the club distribution to people attending,  it means that foxes trust received them around a month ago 

No they were emailed last night, two weeks late.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

What was the response to the person that mentioned the tifo 'issue'? Or non-issue! 

I'm not sure, I didn't attend myself.

[iancognito]

5 hours ago, guest123 said:

I just find it baffling and amazing that on here there is practically no acceptance that not everyone wants to do the same thing. Far too many people on here, and in reality are a really small proportion of the match going fans simply think what they want is the only way people should watch football. I don't mind the tifo's as I don't often sit anywhere where it would be above my head but I can understand that some people may have had the same seat since we moved grounds and don't want them blocking their view. those people are neither right nor wrong, nor are the people who want them displayed. I just wish people would accept other people want to do things differently, and not get "annoyed" that we all don't do the same.

Most Tifos involve people holding up some coloured plastic or card, the general view isn't blocked, the blocking comes from the banner held up on the front concourse which is up for barely 1-2 mins. It's something that happens 3 or 4 times per season and livens up one of the most passive, quiet, featureless stadiums in the country for a total of 8-10 minutes a year.

 

I look back at the 90s/00s with balloons, tickertape and crowd noise and wonder when our fanbase became so dull that Tifos are a source of annoyance.

[Aus Fox]

Reading this minutes makes me think the whole meeting plays out like an episode of Phoenix Nights.

 

[jammie82uk]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

No they were emailed last night, two weeks late.

Not to split hairs but The meeting was the 6th of September, 2 weeks takes you to 20th September, last night was the 16th of October, nearly 4 weeks difference 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Just now, jammie82uk said:

Not to split hairs but The meeting was the 6th of September, 2 weeks takes you to 20th September, last night was the 16th of October, nearly 4 weeks difference 

Ok cool, 4 weeks late then.

[CrazyKopCorner]

1 hour ago, iancognito said:

Most Tifos involve people holding up some coloured plastic or card, the general view isn't blocked, the blocking comes from the banner held up on the front concourse which is up for barely 1-2 mins. It's something that happens 3 or 4 times per season and livens up one of the most passive, quiet, featureless stadiums in the country for a total of 8-10 minutes a year.

 

I look back at the 90s/00s with balloons, tickertape and crowd noise and wonder when our fanbase became so dull that Tifos are a source of annoyance.

Yes the sound of the kop at Filbert Street when you came down Brazil Street at times just before kick off was absolutely deafening - When you see some of the lukewarm, half arsed people that now sit in the kop it's an absolute lifetime apart 

[Nalis]

5 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

I am mates with a lad who was involved at a recent fan consultation at a scottish club.  The difference is staggering.  The club were totally on board with the supporters group, were all for safe standing to be introduced for the group, megaphones, drums and displays all green lit...in fact 90% of the meeting was about how the club could accomodate them.  Very very little opposition at all to anything the fans wanted.

 

More evidence on why the scottish scene is growing so much and why they are attracting a huge amount of younger fans to games.

For the supporter numbers they get the Scottish scene is excellent

[Corky]

I enjoy being part of the Tifos in the Kop but I would genuinely suggest, if you can, doing one in the Family Stand. I bet the kids would love to be involved in it.

 

Nothing on safe standing again. Absolute joke.