Enzo is everything that Brendan wasn't - summed up tonight and even in previous defeat.

[jayfox26]

4 hours ago, Golden Fox said:

I was actually making 2 points. The first was obviously that on a one-sided thread comparing Brendan & Enzo it was worth pointing out that Brendan actually has more PPG this year than Enzo.

The second was a much deeper point, but seeing as you asked...

 

I come on FoxesTalk to find out what is happening at our club (news, transfers, injuries etc) and for informed insight and have a bit of banter with other posters. I click on threads like this and see a very well constructed post about the difference in culture which is spot on and well worth a read.

 

I then see posts like yours calling Brendan a fraud saying he is vile, saying it is nearly impossible not to win the league in Scotland, and gloating at the fact he is struggling. I want to read informed opinions and it annoys me when I am just reading someone's rant. You have added nothing to the conversation, just used the thread as an excuse to pile on and call someone names. I do wonder about the motivation for this - does it make you feel better about yourself having a go at someone?? - or do you want to post something others agree with for self esteem??

 

So my point was to have a bit of fun and point out that your black and white view of the world was a bit more nuanced - and maybe to get people to think about what they post rather than just posting hate.

 

But it obviously fell on deaf ears, so I'll just wait for all the abuse I'll now get for posting this... 

You can just ignore my posts or block me if you want. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I think you'll find quite a few on here would be happy to see Brendan fail after the way he acted last season. If you like Brendan that's fine, that's your opinion but I'd imagine you're in the minority. And if you don't like seeing people like Brendan "get called names" as you put it, this may not be the forum for you, as every time his name is mentioned on here, I guarantee somebody will "call him names". 

 

As regards your ppg argument, it's not comparable as I previously said, as we are playing in a much tougher league. Other than Rangers and Celtic, every team in that league is league 1 standard or lower. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever and Brendan will not be judged on ppg, he'll be judged on whether he wins the title, which at the moment, is 50-50 whether he will or not. 

Edited 29 February 2024 by jayfox26

[Jazzy_Jeff]

Whilst the football is a joy to watch I’m more impressed with the mental strength of our players now.

 

We had a tough week with the results against boro and Leeds. Could very easily have felt sorry for ourselves.

 

but instead we went to a pl team, rested 9 players and played superbly with the same mindset and style that our first team would show in a league game. It shows the players really have brought into him and there is a common belief that this style works for us. 
 

I would love to see what he could do with 4 transfer windows in the prem with a bit of money to spend. 

[ALC Fox]

2 minutes ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

Whilst the football is a joy to watch I’m more impressed with the mental strength of our players now.

 

We had a tough week with the results against boro and Leeds. Could very easily have felt sorry for ourselves.

 

but instead we went to a pl team, rested 9 players and played superbly with the same mindset and style that our first team would show in a league game. It shows the players really have brought into him and there is a common belief that this style works for us. 
 

I would love to see what he could do with 4 transfer windows in the prem with a bit of money to spend. 

The weird thing is, I'm looking at Pep's Man City as an indicator of how this could play out.

 

Like with Man City, initially, I think any player coming in may need time to adjust to Maresca's tactics, dislodge starters in the side and perform to the maximum. If this is the case, I'd expect a few teething problems and a slow start to the season, which may feel like a big deal to fans considering the reduced number of league fixtures and the number of international breaks early on.

 

For that reason, I'd expect us to make one or more signings from Man City. Perhaps re-signing Doyle or bringing in Taylor Harwood-Bellis if Southampton fail to go up so they can't activate their obligation to buy him. McAtee will also be an option and perhaps also the loan of a youth player we haven't yet considered.

 

The more players who could come in and slot into the system easier, the more likely any early season troubles could be mitigated, which actually makes me quite excited as to which players outside of Man City we could target. Which gems from around Europe and the world are on Maresca's and the scouting team's radar (e.g. the previously little-known Hermansen)? Not to mention how happy Maresca was with how quickly we adapted to his tactics early in his reign. Yes performances weren't perfect, but perhaps Enzo's coaching will mitigate any players' unfamiliarity with the system.

 

We could be in for an exciting season, providing this one plays out as hoped.

[sylofox]

Brenda is a prize cvnt.

 

Enzo will never even match that.

[SkidsFox]

I'm still trying to see the bad side of Mr Maresca. Every manager has his favourites, but EM seems to give plenty of chances to squad players. Maybe he's not always spot on when choosing who to substitute, but there again he's privy to info (injuries, fatigue etc) that we don't have. 

We really didn't deserve such a top-rate manager after getting relegated. Recruitment has played a blinder on this.

[Collymore]

On 27/02/2024 at 22:26, foxfanazer said:

Nice thread. Good girl 

Can't believe this has more rep than my original love affair with Enzo 😂

[foxfanazer]

5 hours ago, Collymore said:

Can't believe this has more rep than my original love affair with Enzo 😂

[Mike Oxlong]

5 hours ago, Collymore said:

Can't believe this has more rep than my original love affair with Enzo 😂

Not going to rep this 

 

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

But am going to rep this  

 

 

[fuchsntf]

On 29/02/2024 at 16:56, jayfox26 said:

You can just ignore my posts or block me if you want. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I think you'll find quite a few on here would be happy to see Brendan fail after the way he acted last season. If you like Brendan that's fine, that's your opinion but I'd imagine you're in the minority. And if you don't like seeing people like Brendan "get called names" as you put it, this may not be the forum for you, as every time his name is mentioned on here, I guarantee somebody will "call him names". 

 

As regards your ppg argument, it's not comparable as I previously said, as we are playing in a much tougher league. Other than Rangers and Celtic, every team in that league is league 1 standard or lower. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever and Brendan will not be judged on ppg, he'll be judged on whether he wins the title, which at the moment, is 50-50 whether he will or not. 

Just because a Lynch mob agree with each, doesn’t mean it’s right or credible.

In sport and it’s turn around holding life long grudges on own created agendas,

because fans are not ITK to all phases,situations or the whys & therefore.

How the fans see anything,doesn’t reflect what happens internally.

 

Especially in sport,in contrast to other things in life,

holding a life long grudge,or begrudging someone’s small or large achievements

on past failures…How is your argument with Gf,Friend,relations,or your own

failure trail..( none of my business)

In life it’s all the same a nobody or one in the limelight,one expects & seeks some repentance,.& understanding There are strong characters that try all their life to create something that just fall short,others who don’t try but find it easy to play judge,instead of better sitting in the jury box.

 

Instead of chasing Rodgers,or past players around & venting all your frustration

on them,why not chase sporting positive past events.

Its a past-time,and not a life changing event,despite the extasy of history changers.

 

Life is too short to create a bad boy list in a sport that offers you more often heroes.

Just think..how would you be if you met up with Rodgers and you could ask him what you wanted then discussed the  Leicester various situations in his tenure,

 

Football is all about banter,including the knee-jerk c*nt reaction,but then you let go.

 

I don’t want to change you,

But hope just to put a little drop of empathy towards people,

No more, no less than you expect towards or even from yourself.

 

Hey-ho !! despite your Rodgers rant,I still enjoy your posts,

I hold no grudge, like you with Rodgers,I don’t know you at all

but on a football forum,I treat all like my best mates…

I can call them a twat and they can return the compliment..

 

[foxfanazer]

3 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Not going to rep this 

 

But am going to rep this  

 

 

Some people just have a natural talent for gaining rep points 

[John12345]

On 29/02/2024 at 15:56, jayfox26 said:

You can just ignore my posts or block me if you want. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I think you'll find quite a few on here would be happy to see Brendan fail after the way he acted last season. If you like Brendan that's fine, that's your opinion but I'd imagine you're in the minority. And if you don't like seeing people like Brendan "get called names" as you put it, this may not be the forum for you, as every time his name is mentioned on here, I guarantee somebody will "call him names". 

 

As regards your ppg argument, it's not comparable as I previously said, as we are playing in a much tougher league. Other than Rangers and Celtic, every team in that league is league 1 standard or lower. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever and Brendan will not be judged on ppg, he'll be judged on whether he wins the title, which at the moment, is 50-50 whether he will or not. 

Normally I'd agree with those posters who think it's time to forgive and forget Brendan.

 

I mean most football managers mess things up and get the sack eventually. 

 

But the awfulness of the man makes it hard to shrug off.

 

I think its just human nature to "detest" him and probably a healthy response to have to another human so bad.

 

As long as you don't resort to more than momentary rants etc.

[Dames]

Still have some concerns about Enzos game management in the big games but unlike Rodgers he is willing to learn so i’m hoping these issues iron themselves out in time.

 

The biggest thing he’s doing right is the man management aspect, there are some big players not getting much game time at the minute too and you’re not seeing any sorts of rumours or grumbles in the media. He’s got everyone pulling in the same direction which is arguably the hardest thing to do as a manager in this modern age. 

[Dames]

3 minutes ago, John12345 said:

Normally I'd agree with those posters who think it's time to forgive and forget Brendan.

 

I mean most football managers mess things up and get the sack eventually. 

 

But the awfulness of the man makes it hard to shrug off.

 

I think its just human nature to "detest" him and probably a healthy response to have to another human so bad.

 

As long as you don't resort to more than momentary rants etc.

Never forgive and never forget. He is alongside Peter Taylor for me. 

[J. James]

On 28/02/2024 at 09:21, Fox92 said:

Still a long way to get yet. Big games in particular still worry me.

Yes but that's only natural, under the fraud EVERY game was a worry, and big games were hide in a cupboard time.

 

Had that charlatan remained, l truly believe he could have put us into administration, but at least our owner woke up and saw that "the king has no clothes" - late, but not never.

 

Reading the Bhoys complaints by and about him is deja vu all over again!

[jayfox26]

40 minutes ago, John12345 said:

Normally I'd agree with those posters who think it's time to forgive and forget Brendan.

 

I mean most football managers mess things up and get the sack eventually. 

 

But the awfulness of the man makes it hard to shrug off.

 

I think its just human nature to "detest" him and probably a healthy response to have to another human so bad.

 

As long as you don't resort to more than momentary rants etc.

This is the thing, I can accept any former player or manager that may have failed at the club but I cannot forgive the way Rodgers acted. 

 

Sometimes things don't work out for players and managers, that's football, and we say goodbye to them and wish them well for the future. But I just can't do it with Rodgers. Most managers/players we've ever had, always give their all and sometimes they just fall short. Rodgers clearly didn't give his all last season and was just happy to see us spiral and get relegated. That's what I can never forgive. 

 

If we were relegated under Rodgers and he'd given his all and he'd just lost his way a bit, then I'm sure he'd go down as a club legend for winning the fa Cup, but the way he acted last season will always leave a sour taste and is why he'll never be seen as a legend at this club which is a shame is some ways as he managed us to our first ever fa Cup. 

[jayfox26]

2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Just because a Lynch mob agree with each, doesn’t mean it’s right or credible.

In sport and it’s turn around holding life long grudges on own created agendas,

because fans are not ITK to all phases,situations or the whys & therefore.

How the fans see anything,doesn’t reflect what happens internally.

 

Especially in sport,in contrast to other things in life,

holding a life long grudge,or begrudging someone’s small or large achievements

on past failures…How is your argument with Gf,Friend,relations,or your own

failure trail..( none of my business)

In life it’s all the same a nobody or one in the limelight,one expects & seeks some repentance,.& understanding There are strong characters that try all their life to create something that just fall short,others who don’t try but find it easy to play judge,instead of better sitting in the jury box.

 

Instead of chasing Rodgers,or past players around & venting all your frustration

on them,why not chase sporting positive past events.

Its a past-time,and not a life changing event,despite the extasy of history changers.

 

Life is too short to create a bad boy list in a sport that offers you more often heroes.

Just think..how would you be if you met up with Rodgers and you could ask him what you wanted then discussed the  Leicester various situations in his tenure,

 

Football is all about banter,including the knee-jerk c*nt reaction,but then you let go.

 

I don’t want to change you,

But hope just to put a little drop of empathy towards people,

No more, no less than you expect towards or even from yourself.

 

Hey-ho !! despite your Rodgers rant,I still enjoy your posts,

I hold no grudge, like you with Rodgers,I don’t know you at all

but on a football forum,I treat all like my best mates…

I can call them a twat and they can return the compliment..

 

I've never said I am right or credible with anything I write. I just come on here and give my opinions and read others opinions, which is what I thought a football fans forum is all about. Some on here will like Rodgers and want him to do well at celtic. Some, like me, can't stand him, and would enjoy watching him fail.

Neither is right or wrong, it's just an opinion.

[Daggers]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

Some people just have a natural talent for gaining rep points 

 

[fox_favourite]

There was a discussion on TalkSport yesterday about Spurs and their manager (not going to try and spell it) about the mind set that he won't change his style whatever the result (example when they went down to 9 players). This is due to implementing a culture of the club, and get rid of the old "spursy" way. Trying to stamp his style, same as what Pep did at City, and I think Enzo is doing the same. We play our way and we'll rid the culture of past managers and take you in a new and fresh direction. The impressive thing is how quickly he has turned us around and got the players playing in a new system and to understand it. That deserves massive credit. 

 

Having a team mainly of fringe players and youngsters and beat a premier League side, shows that all the players have bought into it and he has kept them motivated. 

 

Is Enzo perfect, no he does make mistakes in subs and maybe the system needs tweaking in some games, but he's learning and he seems to be getting the best out of the squad he has.

 

He has my full backing, that is for sure.

[fuchsntf]

59 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

I've never said I am right or credible with anything I write. I just come on here and give my opinions and read others opinions, which is what I thought a football fans forum is all about. Some on here will like Rodgers and want him to do well at celtic. Some, like me, can't stand him, and would enjoy watching him fail.

Neither is right or wrong, it's just an opinion.

[foxfanazer]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

I've never said I am right or credible with anything I write. I just come on here and give my opinions and read others opinions, which is what I thought a football fans forum is all about. Some on here will like Rodgers and want him to do well at celtic. Some, like me, can't stand him, and would enjoy watching him fail.

Neither is right or wrong, it's just an opinion.

This isn't true. You're right

[5waller5]

2 hours ago, Dames said:

Never forgive and never forget. He is alongside Peter Taylor for me. 

He’s a country mile ahead of Taylor and Hollowhead (Ie. way worse) for me. They tried their best and failed as they lacked ability.

 

Rodgers couldn’t even be bothered to pretend he wanted to be here. 
 

However…. I couldn’t feel more pleased / excited / thankful that we now have Enzo, and as a comparable, I have very similar feelings when I see Enzo at the touch line as I used to with Big Nige there!!! (This is HUGE praise)

[tsintskaro]

Enzo believers are even more delusional that Brendan himself 

[Gamble92]

8 minutes ago, tsintskaro said:

Enzo believers are even more delusional that Brendan himself 

It's takes a certain type of person to bump up this thread during a match. 

 

You're the type of person who moans when Songs Of Praise moves from it's 6pm slot on a Sunday aren't you?

[HybridFox]

Maybe he isn't 

[dmayne7]

Unfortunately he's got the exact same issue as Rodgers in that he's so blinded by his system and way of playing, that he cannot simply see the alternatives.

 

Generally really like his attitude and culture (though Hamza not being dropped and having the armband is an absolute disgrace) but he's absolutely has to learn how to adapt and at least have something proper in the back pocket.