Tommy G Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 Let's see what job Morgan McSweeney makes of running the country instead of Sue Grayย
Dunge Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 Labour hiring Sue Gray was never a good look, for either Labour or Sue Gray. Iโm surprised they never realised that.
bovril Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 How can we give away a territory with such a banging coat of arms ย 1 1
Dunge Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g53vxjlpjo ย Sheโs not going to learn, is she?
Zear0 Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 10 minutes ago, Dunge said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g53vxjlpjo ย Sheโs not going to learn, is she? Stupid is as stupid does.
RoboFox Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 20 minutes ago, Dunge said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g53vxjlpjo ย Sheโs not going to learn, is she? This nonsense has gone on so long that the two of them are morphing into the same person.ย 1
Trav Le Bleu Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/06/charities-fear-first-class-stamp-price-rise-will-mean-fewer-christmas-cards-sent-royal-mail ย Make no bones about it, Royal Mail is deliberately trying to accelerate the death of mail so that they can become purely a parcel company. 3 1
st albans fox Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 Some of my thoughts have been way off the mark but with reports from channel 12 in Israel that sinwar has made contact with negotiators ย (after many weeks of nothing) and from yesterday that Israel ย think theyโve destroyed every tunnel under the Philadelphi corridor into Egypt, ย I think the window for a ceasefire deal in Gaza is as large as itโs been for many months.ย ย (add that domestically BN is no longer totally reliant on some of the ultra right for his majority)ย ย with war ongoing with Hezbollah, BN doesnโt need war in Gaza to maintain his premiership. (At the moment). ย
Lionator Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 17 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Some of my thoughts have been way off the mark but with reports from channel 12 in Israel that sinwar has made contact with negotiators ย (after many weeks of nothing) and from yesterday that Israel ย think theyโve destroyed every tunnel under the Philadelphi corridor into Egypt, ย I think the window for a ceasefire deal in Gaza is as large as itโs been for many months.ย ย (add that domestically BN is no longer totally reliant on some of the ultra right for his majority)ย ย with war ongoing with Hezbollah, BN doesnโt need war in Gaza to maintain his premiership. (At the moment). ย Surely a ceasefire in Gaza, would lead to a ceasefire everywhere?ย ย Is Sinwar in Gaza or Qatar?
st albans fox Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lionator said: Surely a ceasefire in Gaza, would lead to a ceasefire everywhere?ย ย Is Sinwar in Gaza or Qatar? sinwar should be in Gaza โฆโฆ.. I believe that the IDF had him in a location after they took control of the philadelphi corridorย ย Hezbollah had said that a ceasefire in Gaza would mean they stopped lobbing rockets into n Israel (with responses) - that was before Israel upped the ante on them. a ceasefire requires both sides to ceasefire and I canโt see Israel letting them re equip and re establish their military structure. ย This gives BN the chance to agree something in Gaza whilst still keeping the country at war in the north- a fight which does have wide domestic supportย Edited 7 October 2024 by st albans fox
leicsmac Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 34 minutes ago, st albans fox said: sinwar should be in Gaza โฆโฆ.. I believe that the IDF had him in a location after they took control of the philadelphi corridorย ย Hezbollah had said that a ceasefire in Gaza would mean they stopped lobbing rockets into n Israel (with responses) - that was before Israel upped the ante on them. a ceasefire requires both sides to ceasefire and I canโt see Israel letting them re equip and re establish their military structure. ย This gives BN the chance to agree something in Gaza whilst still keeping the country at war in the north- a fight which does have wide domestic supportย Which of course is exactly what Netanyahu wants to keep perpetuating as such bloodshed distracts the populace from his... rather questionable decision-making and self-interest.
Salisbury Fox Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 9 hours ago, Tommy G said: Let's see what job Morgan McSweeney makes of running the country instead of Sue Grayย I thought it was Lord Alli that was running the countryย ย ย McSweeney seems an open goal if there was a competent opposition given he was fined by the electoral commission for failing to declare donations. 1
st albans fox Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 17 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Which of course is exactly what Netanyahu wants to keep perpetuating as such bloodshed distracts the populace from his... rather questionable decision-making and self-interest. There is a risk for his opponents that if he gets a ceasefire in Gaza (with the return of any living hostages) then a continuation of war against hezbollah will build his support base further.ย mind you, I think sinwar is alive to this and will attempt to exact a high price (probably many high value prisoners released ). ย Sinwar should try to connect Gaza and Lebanon to avoid this happening. ย Actually - that window is narrowing again !ย
Trav Le Bleu Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 7 hours ago, bovril said: How can we give away a territory with such a banging coat of arms ย I don't often say this, but... ย Very stately turtles. 2
MPH Posted 7 October 2024 Posted 7 October 2024 3 hours ago, st albans fox said: There is a risk for his opponents that if he gets a ceasefire in Gaza (with the return of any living hostages) then a continuation of war against hezbollah will build his support base further.ย mind you, I think sinwar is alive to this and will attempt to exact a high price (probably many high value prisoners released ). ย Sinwar should try to connect Gaza and Lebanon to avoid this happening. ย Actually - that window is narrowing again !ย ย I actually think thereโs far more factions operating in Gaza than perhaps we realize.. it gives Hamas the perfect opportunity to carry on the war by supplying other groups with their own arms โ ooh itโs not us firing the rockets itโs the pesky ISISโ type thing. ย Either that or I just see the more militant aspect of Hamas morphing into another ย Brutal organization. Also, ย once the hostages are returned ( I feel thereโs less alive than we realize) then the IDF will become even more brutal in flooding whatโs left of the tunnel network. Flooding the tunnel network will be catastrophic for the environment ย and render the farmland useless. ย ย ย In short, i just donโt see how peace can be found between ย 2 sides committed to each others destructionย
ozleicester Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 Only way this ends is if "the west" puts a stop to our support of what is essentially a genocide. 2
foxy boxing Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 19 hours ago, Dunge said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g53vxjlpjo ย Sheโs not going to learn, is she? It was Wagatha all along!.ย
Otis Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 6 hours ago, ozleicester said: Only way this ends is if "the west" puts a stop to our support of what is essentially a genocide. Or Hamas return the hostages.ย 1
st albans fox Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 46 minutes ago, Otis said: Or Hamas return the hostages.ย Hamas would prefer โthe genocideโ ย therein lies the problem on one sideย ย clearly sig issues on the other too but being comfortable to see their people go through such horrendous trauma isnโt one of themย ย
SkidsFox Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 All ears at 3.30 pm. Tories announce the results of the next stage of the leadership ballot.ย Will Cleverly make it to the final vote?
Wymsey Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 The guy has no remorse, sympathy and denies any responsibility - doesn't he?.. ย ย ย 1
leicsmac Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 37 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Hamas would prefer โthe genocideโ ย therein lies the problem on one sideย ย clearly sig issues on the other too but being comfortable to see their people go through such horrendous trauma isnโt one of themย ย And it wouldn't end there for the other side, either. ย The Israelis now clearly want security for their own people through proper Old Testament style vengeance on a disproportionate scale. How well that sits and how justifiable it is clearly is up to the individual beholder.
MPH Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 8 hours ago, ozleicester said: Only way this ends is if "the west" puts a stop to our support of what is essentially a genocide. ย we are not supporting Hamas that much are we? ย ย ย Seriously though, both as bad as each other. Just Israel are more powerful than Hamas so are doing it on a larger scale. 1
Tommy G Posted 8 October 2024 Posted 8 October 2024 55 minutes ago, SkidsFox said: All ears at 3.30 pm. Tories announce the results of the next stage of the leadership ballot.ย Will Cleverly make it to the final vote? Probably, I think he's the best out of a desperate bunch. He's certainly more right centre, looking at approval ratings today he won't even need to go on the offensive that much if he becomes leader of the opposition. 1
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