Premier League 2024/25

[Finnegan]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

A blind child's choice of footballers without knowing what football actually is. 

 

I couldn't work out if it was some sort of joke or meme I was missing or if it was just rage bait.

 

There's 0 chance that's someone's actual view of football unless they're, idk, a Turkish Wolves fan?

 

[chris1232]

24 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

What the **** am I looking at

 

Is this like, a tier list of... idk, chins?

 

a wolves fan made this

[StanSP]

12 minutes ago, chris1232 said:

a wolves fan made this

I hope they're getting the help they need at this difficult time. 

[AjcW]

Need to check @The Bear hard drive...

[Leicesterpool]

Stadium seemed to be designed in way to make multi use, like Tottenham Hotspur. It was made in mind so they can host American football and concerts. Of course they need that revenue to pay for the stadium. Times have moved on where a stadium is built just for football, I remember when the Walkers was built early talks begin it being shared with the Tigers full time. London Stadium is probably the first ever venue that was built originally for non football related to be then later converted into a football stadium but at the same time remain an athletics arena... which is huge problem for West Ham. Man City when they moved into the Etihad or City of Manchester Stadium as known as then was originally built for the commonwealth games in Manchester, however deal was agreed once the games was finished the ground would be fully given to Man City and to do whatever use of it as they please. Maybe even demolish it if they wanted and rebuild from scratch. West Ham have to keep it as is or have to ask permission to do any sort of redevelopment. 

Edited 18 February by Leicesterpool

[Finnegan]

7 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Need to check @The Bear hard drive...

 

Mate, I've seen his posts in Gen Chat, I'm not going anywhere near his hard drive 

 

[Stadt]

4 hours ago, AjcW said:

I still think there's more to it than just PSR

 

Last season you had a fluke of a team in Luton coming up, they were never going to survive and look at them now... that wasn't to do with money, they spent plenty they just didn't know how to spend it! Sheffield United, worst defence the league has ever witnessed... again, they prioritised spend in other positions. 

 

This season, Ipswich are another Luton really, except they spent even more money but the majority of it has gone on creating a Championship superteam that will yoyo up and down for eternity

 

As for us and Southampton, it's just rank missmanagement, Saints owners are only interested in making profit from young talent, they invest in a squad that can get out of the Championship and exist in the premier league, spotlighting some of their youngsters and making 60-80m a season on transfers. I don't need to go into what's gone wrong for us.

 

Promoted teams shouldn't struggle because of PSR... no one has mentioned PSR in respect of Saints or Ipswich this season have they? 

 

I just think there's more too it personally.

Wholeheartedly agree.

 

We were also one of the incumbents for who the gap grew ever wider... in our favour for however many years, we can't be hard done by on that front. We essentially chose to get relegated through inaction. We had our highest net spend ever in the summer despite FFP troubles. Southampton spent £80m NET after receiving in about £160m NET the previous summer. Ipswich spent about £140m net.

 

Those net spends are probably higher than the bottom 10 combined in Germany/Spain/Italy/France. It's more that promoted clubs keep making poor decisions, especially regarding managerial recruitment e.g sticking with Russell sodding Martin and appointing Cooper. It's not as if this Wolves team (£8m net spend this summer) are infallible either.

Edited 18 February by Stadt

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

What the **** am I looking at

 

Is this like, a tier list of... idk, chins?

 

It's rage bait that was doing the rounds on social media.

[HankMarvin]

4 hours ago, AjcW said:

Promoted teams shouldn't struggle because of PSR... no one has mentioned PSR in respect of Saints or Ipswich this season have they

Because the situations are completely different, we had built a squad for Europe and at one stage trying to push on and get top 4. The fallout from that was a lot of players on high wages that we struggled to shift, players running down their contracts and the highest wage to turnover ratio in the league for the 22/23 season.

Last season Southamptons net spend was plus £150m after relegation and Ipswich had a league one squad a year before. 

[AjcW]

12 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Because the situations are completely different, we had built a squad for Europe and at one stage trying to push on and get top 4. The fallout from that was a lot of players on high wages that we struggled to shift, players running down their contracts and the highest wage to turnover ratio in the league for the 22/23 season.

Last season Southamptons net spend was plus £150m after relegation and Ipswich had a league one squad a year before. 

Yes but it was our management teams choice to offer massive contracts to average players. Or held on to the second highest paid manager in the league despite the signs being there that he was done.

We could have just as easily pushed for europe by buying highly rated 20-24 year olds who wouldn't have demanded big wages... they would have also stuck around if it hadn't worked out/had massive resale value if we'd begun to level out into a mid table side. 

 

Missmanagement, it's as simple as that, we're hiding behind PSR as an excuse... as if it's not our fault we're breaching it in the first place  

[HankMarvin]

21 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Yes but it was our management teams choice to offer massive contracts to average players. Or held on to the second highest paid manager in the league despite the signs being there that he was done.

We could have just as easily pushed for europe by buying highly rated 20-24 year olds who wouldn't have demanded big wages... they would have also stuck around if it hadn't worked out/had massive resale value if we'd begun to level out into a mid table side. 

 

Missmanagement, it's as simple as that, we're hiding behind PSR as an excuse... as if it's not our fault we're breaching it in the first place  

I wasn’t justifying the reason we are in this predicament, just answering why it’s not been a focal point for the other 2 promoted clubs

[Lionator]

Going to go against the grain but the new Everton stadium looks class. It’s functional and not a complete hospitality hell hole until Tottenham. Unlike West Ham, fans are close to the pitch too. Aesthetically from the outside it’s as good as I’ve ever seen. It’s much closer to Liverpool centre in a historic part of the city going through gentrification (some class bars in walking distance). If they get it right, it could be a success imo. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Going to go against the grain but the new Everton stadium looks class. It’s functional and not a complete hospitality hell hole until Tottenham. Unlike West Ham, fans are close to the pitch too. Aesthetically from the outside it’s as good as I’ve ever seen. It’s much closer to Liverpool centre in a historic part of the city going through gentrification (some class bars in walking distance). If they get it right, it could be a success imo. 

Yeah I don't hate it. As far as new grounds go it's probably as good as you're going to get.

[Corky]

3 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

I couldn't work out if it was some sort of joke or meme I was missing or if it was just rage bait.

 

There's 0 chance that's someone's actual view of football unless they're, idk, a Turkish Wolves fan?

 

TalkSport's output sorted for the next week, in any case.

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

Going to go against the grain but the new Everton stadium looks class. It’s functional and not a complete hospitality hell hole until Tottenham. Unlike West Ham, fans are close to the pitch too. Aesthetically from the outside it’s as good as I’ve ever seen. It’s much closer to Liverpool centre in a historic part of the city going through gentrification (some class bars in walking distance). If they get it right, it could be a success imo. 

It only looks generic because it lacks Everton branding.

 

Once seats are painted for "EFC" etc then it'll look loads better.

[purpleronnie]

33 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

It only looks generic because it lacks Everton branding.

 

Once seats are painted for "EFC" etc then it'll look loads better.

Some of the lettering on stands looks really awful though, but I do agree it needs something.

[Bilo]

The lack of Everton branding is the big bugbear at the moment as it looks like a generic FIFA stadium inside. Put up some hoardings commemorating their trophy wins, EFC seating etc and it'll look much better.

[Leicesterpool]

Does anyone remember the Portsmouth stadium that was planned. This would have been something.

 

[dmayne7]

4 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Does anyone remember the Portsmouth stadium that was planned. This would have been something.

 

Might have failed the old light pollution test based on that image.

[dmayne7]

I watched a fly by video they had recently with some renders in there and it somehow managed to look more bland than the bowls from the late 90's/early 00's. 

 

Sure it will look way better when fully done and some life has been injected into it but currently very unimpressed

[Royston.]

8 hours ago, FoxesBraun said:

Really good post this.

 

But very concerned about the the direction it's heading in. 

 

Realistically this season all 3 who came up go down again, so what happens next year and who goes down?  Brentford, Fulham no because they now appear well established and financially comfortable. Forest and Bournemouth no, West Ham, Everton, Wolves, Palace highly unlikely unless one of them implodes like we did in 22/23.  So all of sudden you have 3 consecutive years of the promoted teams not standing a chance and you might as well close up shop. 

 

Something ought to change but I fear we're already created our own little super league here and as a club we have missed out big time because of our own incompetence. 

you'll never sing that

[chris1232]

 

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[Angus Scott]

6 hours ago, Lionator said:

Going to go against the grain but the new Everton stadium looks class. It’s functional and not a complete hospitality hell hole until Tottenham. Unlike West Ham, fans are close to the pitch too. Aesthetically from the outside it’s as good as I’ve ever seen. It’s much closer to Liverpool centre in a historic part of the city going through gentrification (some class bars in walking distance). If they get it right, it could be a success imo. 

I wonder how many years it will be before we get to play there

[Royston.]

34 minutes ago, Angus Scott said:

I wonder how many years it will be before we get to play there

Ask your great grandkids

[whoareyaaa]

How come Liverpool play Villa tonight ?