Vardy better than Kane & Rooney ??

[Number 6]

Always found Kane a more selfish player than Vardy, and on that basis I think you can make the argument that Vardy is the better player. Though I could understand people making a case for either.

 

Rooney was elite though. A world class player who was untouchable on his day.

[Hamilton Fox]

I know Maresca is saying it to big up Vardy as he managed him and he is our goat but no one in the country would ever think he was better than Rooney surely

[rugbyblue]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

I personally don't think he'd have been half the player he ended up being. He'd have had all of his raw 'Vardyness' coached out of him 

I absolutely agree.  Theres also the fact he has done a "real" job and lived in the real world for a few years.  Whilst that doesn't equate to talent, players that have experienced the real world tend to have an edge and a bit of character ...vinnie jones, Stuart Pearce .  Its rare these days.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

I think even Leicester fans underestimate just how good he was between 2016 and 2022.
 

If Vards went to Arsenal, they’d have dominated trophy wise and he would most certainty have gotten more England chances.

 

 

[Wymsey]

Imagine if Vardy was like Rooney when the latter was 17 at Everton..; suspect that he would've quite easily surpassed Shearer's PL record.

[Dr Marco]

Vards the best

still genuinely think England would have won a trophy with him

Edited 24 November 2024 by Dr Marco

[filbertway]

Rooney clearly the better footballer of the 3. I'd fancy Kane to score more chances than Vardy, but I think Vardy offers more to a team than Kane.

 

So basically Rooney > Vardy > Kane

[justfoxes]

20 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Imagine if Vardy was like Rooney when the latter was 17 at Everton..; suspect that he would've quite easily surpassed Shearer's PL record.

Difference between Rooney & Vards is Rooney spent more time in retirement homes with the old birds & that never appealed to Vardy 😉

 

On a serious note tho Rooney on the ball free kicks scoring goals etc he was a superb all rounder, could take on a defence muscle them aside score some amazing goals he was a tank at going past defences, whereas Vards was a pest he took the pi55 out of defenders scoring amazing goals off the drop of a shoulder an amazing talent Our GOAT 🐐 

Edited 24 November 2024 by justfoxes

[Leeds Fox]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

If we are talking about players in their prime, I personally feel that Rooney or Owen had a higher ceiling than Vardy. 

 

What Vardy has and Kane might also actually, is longevity. Vardy doesn’t become the player he is without Pearson though. He nearly quit the game after a year with us. So it’s hard to say if he’d been as prolific at a younger age. 
 

Similar with Kane. He didn’t look special when he was with us. 
 

Vardy will be remembered for the streak and  being the spearhead of the Premier League title win. Vardy is a Premier League Legend. Similar to Shearer with Blackburn really? 
 

Career wise it isn’t even close in reality. Kane has the best goals per game ratio, however that’ll drop as he gets older. His lack of trophies and individual honours is terrible though! 

 

Rooney

A goal every 0.41 games. 
5 x Premier League

1 x FA Cup

3 x League Cup

4 x Community Shield

1 x Champions League

1 x Europa League

1 x Club World Cup

3 x PFA team of the year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season

1 x FIFA World XI

 

Vardy

A goal every 0.47 games. 
1 x Premier League

1 x FA Cup

2 x Championships

1 x Community Shield

1 x Premier League Player of the Season
2 x PFA team of the year

 

Shearer

A goal every 0.47 games. 
1 x Premier League

3rd Place in Ballon Dor

4 x PFA team of the year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season

 

Kane

A goal every 0.66 games. 

6 x PFA team of the year

 

Owen

A goal every 0.45 games. 

1 x Premier League
1 x FA Cup

3 x League Cup

2 x Community Shield

1 x UEFA Cup

1 x UEFA Super Cup

1 x Ballon Dor

1 x World Player of the Year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season
1 x Premier League Team of the Season

 

 

 

I might be getting mixed up being a bit hungover… but do you mean 0.66 goals per game? 

[gerrytaggart]

Being able to read also gives Vardy the edge.

[bovril]

Vardy never really had the benefit of elite coaching, or being round elite players in his early years. Considering that, I believe he is more talented than Kane and I'd argue one of the most talented English players of his generation. He is a very very intelligent player with some of the best movement I've ever seen, a seriously underrated finisher, and a brilliant team player. I think he's our highest assist maker in the PL. Like Schmeichel, the way he can elevate himself and those around him for big games is one of the main reasons we won two major trophies in 5 years. I think if Southgate had used him wisely we could've got past Croatia in 2018 and Italy in 2021.

 

Rooney though might be the most talented English player I've seen after Gascoigne. 

[Bilo]

Interesting question.

 

Rooney at his peak looked as though he had it in him to be Cristiano Ronaldo good. Between 2003 and the 2006 World Cup, he was the better player. The problem was that injuries, his lifestyle and temperament meant that he never quite hit the heights of which he was capable, so his peak was brief. He was still an extremely reliable goalscorer though for a number of years. I would say that 30-year-old Vardy was well ahead of 30-year-old Rooney, though. 

 

Kane was, like Vardy, a relatively late bloomer. He was still on multiple Championship loans at an age where Rooney looked set for multiple Ballon D'Ors, but seemed to become extremely good extremely quickly. His lack of trophies, pace and propensity for stat padding against weaker sides do count against him, though. 

 

With Vardy, there's the 'what if.' What if he hadn't been loyal to us in 2016 and gone to Arsenal? It's quite possible he would have added even more to his trophy haul. He'd have certainly played more for England due to big club bias. Vardy used properly up front with Kane in WC2018 and Euro 2020 could have been an absolute game changer. 

 

I'd argue that the fact his entire professional career has been spent with us probably leads pundits to underrate him. A player named James Vardinho signing for Manchester City from Flamengo, instead of Jamie Vardy signing for Leicester from Fleetwood, with identical stats and attributes would be regarded as world-class and an all-time Premier League legend.

Edited 24 November 2024 by Bilo

[Bilo]

1 hour ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

I think even Leicester fans underestimate just how good he was between 2016 and 2022.
 

If Vards went to Arsenal, they’d have dominated trophy wise and he would most certainty have gotten more England chances.

 

 

This, basically.

Multiple managers have said that he was one of the best in Europe at his peak. 

[foxfanazer]

Who's got the better highlights reel for goals? I'd say variety wise it'd be Vardy

[bovril]

14 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Jamie Bardy signing for Leicester from Fleetwood

Scouted by Craig Shakespeare no doubt

[AKCJ]

Love Vardy to bits and he was legitimately world class in his pomp but his peak was not better than the peaks of Kane or Rooney. Not in a million years. 

[Leicesterpool]

Based on silverware.... Rooney has won lots more sadly and a champions league medal, but notable under the Fergie regime. Soon as Fergie left Man Utd, Rooney trophy cabinet soon became empty. Vardy can still say he has won a league title, fa cup and a community shield to his name and 4th place world cup medal... rooney don't have one of them lol. Kane... has won.... nowt lol. Lets not forget a lot of his goals have came from the pen spot.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 minute ago, Leicesterpool said:

Based on silverware.... Rooney has won lots more sadly and a champions league medal, but notable under the Fergie regime. Soon as Fergie left Man Utd, Rooney trophy cabinet soon became empty. Vardy can still say he has won a league title, fa cup and a community shield to his name and 4th place world cup medal... rooney don't have one of them lol. Kane... has won.... nowt lol. Lets not forget a lot of his goals have came from the pen spot.

And more than 260 (and counting) haven't come from the spot.

[Corky]

All different players with different qualities. Vardy suited us in a way he may not have elsewhere.

 

Kane and Vardy could have been a great England partnership. A waste, really.

[accessory]

On 24/11/2024 at 15:38, Leicesterpool said:

Based on silverware.... Rooney has won lots more sadly and a champions league medal, but notable under the Fergie regime. Soon as Fergie left Man Utd, Rooney trophy cabinet soon became empty. Vardy can still say he has won a league title, fa cup and a community shield to his name and 4th place world cup medal... rooney don't have one of them lol. Kane... has won.... nowt lol. Lets not forget a lot of his goals have came from the pen spot.

Rooney won more major medals under Van Gaal and Mourinho at Man U than Vardy has in his entire career.

[BKLFox]

I’m not sure Enzo was just referring to balls in the net better like how a lot of people judge, Kane has scored more than Vardy ergo Kane a better striker.

I believe he was talking about a package & there are very few that look after themselves, prepare themselves, understand themselves better than Vardy.
 

[Fox92]

On 24/11/2024 at 15:38, Leicesterpool said:

Based on silverware.... Rooney has won lots more sadly and a champions league medal, but notable under the Fergie regime. Soon as Fergie left Man Utd, Rooney trophy cabinet soon became empty. Vardy can still say he has won a league title, fa cup and a community shield to his name and 4th place world cup medal... rooney don't have one of them lol. Kane... has won.... nowt lol. Lets not forget a lot of his goals have came from the pen spot.

You don't judge players based on silverware though. 

 

Anyway, Rooney won an FA Cup, League Cup, Europa League and Community Shield all after Ferguson retired.

Edited 27 November 2024 by Fox92

[Kitchandro]

According to finishing statistics, yes he is. That’s a fact. His conversion rate is notably better than other English strikers since he started playing in the Premier League.

 

He’s been playing in, let’s face it, a pretty negative team for most of years here, one that hasn’t created loads of chances. Kane is a media darling because he’s played for a media darling club that regularly competed in the top 4. Switch the two round and sure, Kane is still respected, but Vardy is the all-time England top scorer and Kane had to make do with being an impact sub. Personally, I think it’s moronic they didn’t play up front together, but managers love trends and not common sense.

 

It’s regularly suggested that teams do better without Kane in the team. That has never been aimed at Vards. Let me put it this way, winning the league title with Kane up front would have been impossible. Vardy’s role in that team and the style of play is still understated.

[Trav Le Bleu]

If Vardy had played as many games for England as Rooney or Kane and played as a striker (not a winger, Mr Dumbgate!), he would've got more goals than either of them 

 

FACT!

Edited 27 November 2024 by Trav Le Bleu

[foxfanazer]

Different question then.....would you have swapped Vardy for either ?

 

Insta bans for anyone who says yes