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Posted

 

1-Ranieri

2-Pearson

3-Rodgers

4-Enzo

5-Puel

6-Sven

7-Shakey

8-Cooper

9-Smith

10-Souza

 

purely on performance, if it was on who I like Rodgers would be down the bottom as I despised him even during the good times, and Shakey up near the top

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1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

Na, Sousa was shite but he has to be above the clown we've just binned purely off the fact he was effortlessly classy, he looks like he sweats Paco Rabanne Black XS

 

Sousa also set the foundation for the title winning season with signings like Moreno, Lamey and Vitor

Miguel Vitor - man he looked a player. His career however says otherwise

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2 hours ago, MattFox said:

Might as well do this now Coopers gone and we’ve had 10 managers under KP

 

Here’s mine 

 

1. Pearson

2. Ranieri

3. Rodgers

4 . Shakespeare 

5. Enzo

6. Puel

7. Sven

8. Smith

9. Souza

10. Cooper

I will bite, this is based on value of squad relative to competitors, circumstances when taking job etc.

 

1. Pearson

2. Ranieri

3. Sven

4. Puel

5. Rodgers

6  Shakespeare

7  Enzo

8  Cooper

9  Smith

10. Souza - how anyone can put cooper below this clown I dont know.

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1 hour ago, MattFox said:

Might as well do this now Coopers gone and we’ve had 10 managers under KP

 

Here’s mine 

 

1. Pearson

2. Ranieri

3. Rodgers

4 . Shakespeare 

5. Enzo

6. Puel

7. Sven

8. Smith

9. Souza

10. Cooper

1. pearson
2. ranieri
3, rodgers
4. enzo
5.puel
6. shakespear
7.sven
8.souza
9. smith
10. cooper

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1 hour ago, ClaphamNorthFox said:

Souza has to be bottom of this pile! 

Yeah, looking at people putting him higher up really does show people put tippy tappy above results.  The only thing going for the guy is he had principles on style, sadly those principles had us right at the bottom of the championship with an expensive championship squad.

 

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On 1 October 2010, after less than three months in charge, Sousa was fired after a poor start to the season, with the team having won only once in his first nine league games.

 

More of a looker I suppose.

 

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Rodgers bottom for me. I know it sounds silly but the damage he did, all to feed his ego puts Peter Taylor to shame. Feels like we won the FA cup in spite of him. I'm sure my feelings will soften over time but he's set us back 10 years.

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People are letting their personal feelings cloud their judgement here. Is this list about the best managers who achieved the most or people's favourites? For instance.

 

- Pearson's first and very successful spell was prior to the kp era. In the kp era he missed out on promotion with the most expensively assembled squad in championship history, then won the championship then narrowly avoided relegation with a side with Mahrez, Vardy, drinkwater etc. that's it. Seems very difficult to rate him higher than managers who won the biggest prizes in domestic football for the first time in our history.

 

- if your giving Pearson credit for him and walsh building the side that won the league then you have to give puel and Marcia credit for building the side that won the fa cup. So lists where Pearson is top and puel near the bottom seem a bit lacking in logic.

 

- As much as you may hate Rogers he had two 5th place finishes and an 8th place finish and won an fa cup this gives him 3 of the clubs top 10 finishes of all time and our 2 biggest trophy that is hard to ignore if your going to argue that he had a very good squad and team well yes he did but rate Claude higher in that case because he built it with Marcia.

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35 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

People are letting their personal feelings cloud their judgement here. Is this list about the best managers who achieved the most or people's favourites? For instance.

 

- Pearson's first and very successful spell was prior to the kp era. In the kp era he missed out on promotion with the most expensively assembled squad in championship history, then won the championship then narrowly avoided relegation with a side with Mahrez, Vardy, drinkwater etc. that's it. Seems very difficult to rate him higher than managers who won the biggest prizes in domestic football for the first time in our history.

 

- if your giving Pearson credit for him and walsh building the side that won the league then you have to give puel and Marcia credit for building the side that won the fa cup. So lists where Pearson is top and puel near the bottom seem a bit lacking in logic.

 

- As much as you may hate Rogers he had two 5th place finishes and an 8th place finish and won an fa cup this gives him 3 of the clubs top 10 finishes of all time and our 2 biggest trophy that is hard to ignore if your going to argue that he had a very good squad and team well yes he did but rate Claude higher in that case because he built it with Marcia.

What you described plays its part in my list, please tell me what you think of it.

 

 

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If it's just based on biggest achievements for the club would agree with most about CR as number 1 but if you base it on everything things they have done for the club and fans I.e won for us promotion, rebuilding a team, installing the never quit attitude etc I would  have Pearson as number 1.

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If I thought about it in terms of whose football did I enjoy watching the most, which manager actively had me gripped and looking forwards to next week I’d have to go:

1. Ranieri 

2. Rodgers (First 2.5 years)

3. Sven

4. Nigel

5. Shakey

6. Enzo

7. Rodgers final months

8. Puel

9. Cooper

10. Sousa

 

If we are being honest 7-10 was all pretty dire football.

Enzo was effective, but not great on the eye, where as Sven was not really effective but, I’ll tell you, I loved watching us play most of the time.

 

In terms of Success

 

1. Ranieri 

2. Rodgers

3. Pearaon

4. Enzo

5. Shakey

6 - 8 Puel, Cooper, Sven

9. Sousa

 

In terms of leaving us in a better place when they left:

 

1. Ranieri 

2. Nigel

3. Enzo

4. Shakey

4. Puel

6. Sven - though an obscene wage Bill Nigel had to fix, but did give us Kasper.
7. Rodgers

8. Cooper 

9. Sousa

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1. Pearson - Rebuilt the club, twice, and we wouldn't have been in the PL without him (let alone win it)

2. Ranieri - Second season was awful, hurtling towards relegation, but the title win is the obvious success as to why he's so high

3. Rodgers - Never thought I'd see us win the FA Cup, never thought I'd see us qualify for Europe via league position, but the relegation takes a shine off otherwise I'd have had him second

4 . Puel - In the end it was awful but he stabilised us which is what we needed at that time

5. Enzo - Best squad in the league and didn't even reach 100 points, but overall got us promoted so better than those below him

6. Shakespeare - Still think we'd have gone down if they wouldn't have sacked him, his early start as manager influenced my decision to have him this high

7. Cooper - Awful appointment from the start

8. Smith - Hard to judge with few games but the Leeds and Newcastle games were disappointing 

9. Sven - Spent lots of money, some of which were poor players, and never even got us into the top 6

10. Souza  - Took over a team that had just finished top 6 / play offs and had us bottom of the league

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10 hours ago, Eskay said:

Winning the league under Ranieri.......the actual ****ing league ......and some people still have Big Nige as number 1!!

 

That's enough foxestalk for one evening. 

Judge managers (and players) on consistency, not one season. Pearson took over this club when we had just been relegated to League 1 and left the club in the Premier League. Of course we never though we'd win the league, and that season was unbelievable, but the following season was awful. We went about 6 games without even scoring before Ranieri was sacked and were dumped out of the FA Cup by a team that weren't even in the top 10 of League 1 at that point. Overall Pearson did the better job and the club would not have been in the position it was for years without his work.

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10 hours ago, Jakemoore said:

No way is cooper worse than Sousa. That 6-0 to Pompey under Sousa was as bad as I’ve seen.

To be fair we had a man sent off in the first half. 

 

Plus we could have easily have lost games by that margin under Cooper if the sides were were playing could finish.

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10 hours ago, Monk said:

For me Sven was better than Puel

 

Disagree. Puel signed some phenomenal players that Rodgers used successfully. Maddison, Ricardo, Tielemans, Soyuncu. His eye for talent is the best of everyone on list. I know we signed Kasper, Nugent etc under Sven but Puel was better for us, despite the bad football .

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8 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

Rodgers bottom for me. I know it sounds silly but the damage he did, all to feed his ego puts Peter Taylor to shame. Feels like we won the FA cup in spite of him. I'm sure my feelings will soften over time but he's set us back 10 years.

 

It is absolutely silly imo. Two consecutive 5th placs finishes + FA Cup whilst playing the best football I've seen us play in my lifetime. Yes he choked by not finishing 4th at least once but Rodgets is absolutely third on that list behind Pearson and Ranieri without a doubt. Just because it ended terribly doesn't take away how  brilliant we were under him for a long time.

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Whilst Pearson built the title winning squad and obviously built the club back up, I just can't see how Ranieri wouldn't be top after winning the league. Rodgers did great for a few seasons and the fa Cup win was huge, but he'll always be tarnished because of the way he acted in his final season and the absolute shit show he left us in. Pearson built a squad for Ranieri and you could argue Puel built a squad for Rodgers. Then Rodgers destroyed it after having initial success 

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Puel had a better win rate than Cooper and the signings under him where vastly superior to those of Cooper and money can't be used as an excuse. We're now carrying so much dross.

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