Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[kenny]

1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

If this is all true, fair play to RVN.  These guys (including Vards i'm sorry to say) need bringing down a peg or two.

If it is true, why does RVN keep selecting the same starting 11 week on week.

 

If there are players with attitude problems then they need dropping and fringe players promoted in their place.

 

It feels like RVN is prepared to call them out, but then lets them off the hook by selecting them anyway.

 

The comments about Okoli and his boots, I wonder if that is an error and its Ayew. He doesn't go down as frequently as he did under Cooper which nullifies the best part of his game.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

Bit tenuous, but someone I work with knows a football agent and they've said he's gone...

[StriderHiryu]

What a bombshell article! Maybe one of the best written about the club for many years.

 

RVN is on the clock now, but I have sympathy for him. He's clearly trying to change the culture of the "Seagrave Hotel" but it's not working, because the overall culture at the club is rotten.

 

Sadly this makes me feel like we are YEARS away from any improvement.

 

- Ruud walks

- We get relegated

- The good players like El Khannouss leave, the overpaid ones stay

- We perform badly in the Championship because said overpaid players don't really care and are just going through the motions

- We don't get promoted in the first 3 seasons, parachute payments run out and we become the next Watford, Stoke, Norwich, etc

 

You can see it coming a mile away.

 

 

 

Edited 24 January by StriderHiryu

[Stadt]

3 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

The players have far to much power at the club. Even all the way back to the sacking of Ranieri. 

Because Top will always side with Vardy.

 

He's our greatest ever player and our biggest legend but we need to clear the decks, saddle with is influence and his wages he needs to retire at the end of the season.

[Jazzy_Jeff]

We need a team of people willing to oversee a huge restructure.

 

a manager and coaching team, scouts, DOF, analysts, I could go on.

 

we need to completely rip it up and start again. It will take time and us fans will “suffer” for a couple of seasons but I would rather a longer stint in the championship if it meant we reshaped the squad and got our old Leicester back. 

Edited 24 January by Jazzy_Jeff

[Mickyblueeyes]

Just now, Fox92 said:

Pearson got rid of those players, and rightly so, I highly doubt he went around screaming at players who didn't play though. Pearson's man management was second to none.

 

Since then though Vestergaard was reported to be made to train with the reserves under Rodgers, he even did an interview criticising Rodgers at the time, yet people chose to back the player because they didn't like the manager. 

 

Rodgers spoke of a "refresh" years ago, which never happened (not a surprise), and again people laughed at him for saying it.

 

The players have far too much power at the club. Even all the way back to the sacking of Ranieri. 

Nige didn’t hold back when someone pissed him off: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ex-nottingham-forest-and-reading-player-reveals-first-thing-nigel-pearson-said-to-him-when-he-signed-for-leicester/

 

If Okoli has been told to change his boots and he keeps wearing those boots, then he deserves it. 
 

Vestegaard being placed in the reserves after Rodgers DEMANDED he was the right player for us is very different. 
 

It can’t always be the manager who is wrong here. But that always seems to be the case. It’s rotten.

[teblin]

Just now, ROB-THE-BLUE said:

Bit tenuous, but someone I work with knows a football agent and they've said he's gone...

I've heard whispers too ,or at least he has a short period of time, but I have no idea how reliable the source is and it 2nd/3rd hand. 

 

So much like a non rumour, but I guess that doesn't stop many on social media and sometimes on here.

[honeybradger]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Pearson got rid of those players, and rightly so, I highly doubt he went around screaming at players who didn't play though. Pearson's man management was second to none.

 

Since then though Vestergaard was reported to be made to train with the reserves under Rodgers, he even did an interview criticising Rodgers at the time, yet people chose to back the player because they didn't like the manager. 

 

Rodgers spoke of a "refresh" years ago, which never happened (not a surprise), and again people laughed at him for saying it.

 

The players have far to much power at the club. Even all the way back to the sacking of Ranieri. 

Absolutely no one was backing Vestergaard under Rodgers. Everyone was annoyed at him because he was happy sitting around collecting his wages and not making an effort to leave whilst not wanted.

 

Rodgers got pelters because he spent the summer calling up bloody Janick Vestergaard to try and convince him to come here, only to realise almost instantly that he's not good enough at PL level and dropped him. The criticism was more for even thinking he wanted him in the first place.

[LVFox]

Drain the swamp.

New owners, new management, new playing squad, new coach. Nothing works at Leicester anymore

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I'm long through the angry phase tbh, this is hilarious

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Nige didn’t hold back when someone pissed him off: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ex-nottingham-forest-and-reading-player-reveals-first-thing-nigel-pearson-said-to-him-when-he-signed-for-leicester/

 

If Okoli has been told to change his boots and he keeps wearing those boots, then he deserves it. 
 

Vestegaard being placed in the reserves after Rodgers DEMANDED he was the right player for us is very different. 
 

It can’t always be the manager who is wrong here. But that always seems to be the case. It’s rotten.

Yeah, I listened to Mills on that podcast at that time and never once believed what he said. I don't believe Pearson would throw insults around like that with no reason.

[goose2010]

It is clear that it really doesn't matter who the manager is, if they are this linked to Top and Rudkin they aren't going to listen to you. 

 

Like having your dad as a director and a manager trying to tell you what to do. 

 

There is zero chance Rudkin, Top etc. are going to go and this cements it for me!

 

The club is on a collusion course with destruction and nobody is going to stop it. 

 

 

I just hope Ruud comes out and tells us exactly how it is when he is either sacked or resigns. But he wont as he will be tied into some legal contract and gagged - like most managers are. 

 

I can see why the more established managers wont come now too. 

 

[kenny]

1 minute ago, honeybradger said:

Absolutely no one was backing Vestergaard under Rodgers. Everyone was annoyed at him because he was happy sitting around collecting his wages and not making an effort to leave whilst not wanted.

 

Rodgers got pelters because he spent the summer calling up bloody Janick Vestergaard to try and convince him to come here, only to realise almost instantly that he's not good enough at PL level and dropped him. The criticism was more for even thinking he wanted him in the first place.

And for playing him in a high line time and again exposing his biggest weakness.

[foxinsocks]

Ruud can see the squad isn't good enough and some players are not bothered... yet he has no finance to change things.  He would be right to go....  he is in a no win situation (literally!)

[Mickyblueeyes]

Just now, Fox92 said:

Yeah, I listened to Mills on that podcast at that time and never once believed what he said. I don't believe Pearson would throw insults around like that with no reason.

Ok, do we believe this article. 
 

One thing about Nige, the season after he got rid of quite a few of the Sven squad, he was asked post match about the mental strength of the team - I think we had lost the game v Wolves - his answer - “They’re are damn sight stronger than the ones we had last year”.

[goose2010]

3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Because Top will always side with Vardy.

 

He's our greatest ever player and our biggest legend but we need to clear the decks, saddle with is influence and his wages he needs to retire at the end of the season.

its sad to say but Vardy HAS to go. 

[jonny_wright]

6 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Because Top will always side with Vardy.

 

He's our greatest ever player and our biggest legend but we need to clear the decks, saddle with is influence and his wages he needs to retire at the end of the season.

Paying a 38 year old £140k a week is unforgivable, even the Saudis wouldn’t pay that 

[Yg41]

11 minutes ago, Nobbyburton said:

I think this is a reason a lot of Dutch managers have struggled in England actually.
 

There have always been bigger issues at Man United obviously, but LVG and Ten Hag definitely had problems with the English media because their personality didn’t mix well with it and probably the general pandering to players in this country. 
 

Koeman also seemed to struggle with the dressing room at Everton. 

Can confirm as someone living in the Netherlands now. Even though they're right across the water from England the cultural differences can be huge. They're just way more direct and no beating around the bush style but this can be seen as super rude if you're not familiar with it (a lot of them are straight up willy pullers and hide behind "ohh I'm just being direct" mask too). It just doesn't mix well with the English culture where you just say something and mean something completely different and the Dutch simply can't compute that

[honeybradger]

Why do our fans think that Vardy is the one causing problems and pushing for managers to leave? Kasper got the same criticism as well but now we have a thread about how important he was to the club. 

[Pliskin]

Fair play Ruud. Bunch of self entitled willy pullers the lot of them. We will be in league two within three years anyway, so hopefully they will all be gone….

 

Just sack them all of Ruud and play the kids. 

[RedSoxUK]

12 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said:

Bit tenuous, but someone I work with knows a football agent and they've said he's gone...

To be fair I am Luke Thomas' agent and all I said was Ruud's gone mental... Don't twist it lad

[goose2010]

2 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Why do our fans think that Vardy is the one causing problems and pushing for managers to leave? Kasper got the same criticism as well but now we have a thread about how important he was to the club. 

I'm not saying his is the problem and causing the issues, but you cannot have a player running to the owner if there is a problem especially one that is on 100k+ a week. 

 

It makes the managers job impossible. 

 

We cant sustain having playing on contracts that big. I think this season has proved that none of them are good enough to earn that much money. 

[lcfc_forever]

Top had a go at the players for letting the club down under Cooper. We're arguably seeing worse now under RVN.

 

The logical thing is to back the manager and allow him to shift the culture like Pearson did but it would be a massive step change if they did. 

[The Doctor]

30 minutes ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

Is anyone able to post the whole article please? 

get yourself a 12 foot ladder

[filbertway]

32 minutes ago, Gevans_97 said:

I agree, but that conversation has to happen in a different setting surely? Take him aside during/after training, not lay into him in front of the whole squad immediately after a loss that he’s not even been a part of? 

Maybe he wasnt part of the squad because he turned up in those sh*t boots after a warning  

Edited 24 January by filbertway