Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[kingfox]

Still not willing to jump on the out brigade because elements of the squad he’s inherited just fvcking suck. 
 

But in terms of formation and tactics it’s been very one dimensional so far. 
 

While persisting with Ayew and Reid as our first choice wingers is madness. 
 

If we go down, I wouldn’t particularly want him as manager for the Championship, but knowing our board, they’ll probably turn to Russell Martin instead 

[TrentFox]

The idea of “sticking with RVN” makes me feel ill. Totally out of his depth, as appeared likely at the time of his appointment to most people on here. Not all, but most. I don’t see anything about his impact that makes me confident of a successful championship campaign under his tutelage next season. I can’t believe even we would be so naive as to give him the opportunity. 

[String fellow]

When RvN was appointed, we had 26 PL games left to play this season. We now have 13 left, so he's reached the half-way stage of that period. During his first 13 PL games, we gained just 7 points, although he wasn't in charge for the first of those 13 matches. If the current trend continues, we'll end up with a not-so-grand total of 24 points!  

[Fox92]

48 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

luck is absolutely real. Did we deserve points from Ipswich and Southampton under Cooper, no, but refereeing errors around penalties for them (Ayew v Southampton with his shirt pulling, Fatawus challenge at Ipswich) turned the game. 

Cooper was as bad as RvN has been, arguably worse given he's made our PSR position crap again with shit like Skipp

But football doesn’t work like that. There are games you deserve to win when you lose, games you deserve to lose when you win. We didn’t deserve 3 points against West Ham under Van Nistelrooy, for instance. We should have won at Palace but our defender made a stupid challenge to concede a penalty in the last minute. You can pick out pretty much anything if you’re being specific.

 

Cooper was nowhere near as bad as Van Nistelrooy and the results reflect that. We now have gone 5 home league games without even scoring.

 

I am not taking signings into consideration as there’s more people to blame than just the manager for the scouting and signing of players. 

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, TrentFox said:

The idea of “sticking with RVN” makes me feel ill. Totally out of his depth, as appeared likely at the time of his appointment to most people on here. Not all, but most. I don’t see anything about his impact that makes me confident of a successful championship campaign under his tutelage next season. I can’t believe even we would be so naive as to give him the opportunity. 

I genuinely think he is just ****ing it off. Playing the same shit week in week out because he knows either way, financially he wins. He will be gone in the summer regardless, he will either be sacked or he will leave by ‘mutual’ consent aka force the sack….. because he will want a pay out. There’s no incentive for him to even try to keep us up, he’s got an argument because of all of the crap going on off the field, so it won’t even hamper his career. 

[winteriscoming]

We are sticking with him purely because he’s a name. Nothing more. Completely out of his depth. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

2 hours ago, robski said:

What style ? 

In looks

[The Doctor]

59 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

I’ll be honest those numbers don’t mean anything to me , where was this copied from ?

from understat, what they indicate is that we're creating slightly worse or fewer chances under Ruud but giving up less good chances as well

[The Doctor]

28 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

But football doesn’t work like that. There are games you deserve to win when you lose, games you deserve to lose when you win. We didn’t deserve 3 points against West Ham under Van Nistelrooy, for instance. We should have won at Palace but our defender made a stupid challenge to concede a penalty in the last minute. You can pick out pretty much anything if you’re being specific.

 

Cooper was nowhere near as bad as Van Nistelrooy and the results reflect that. We now have gone 5 home league games without even scoring.

 

I am not taking signings into consideration as there’s more people to blame than just the manager for the scouting and signing of players. 

it does work like that though. yes, over a full season you tend to sit where you deserve to be, you can't fluke a full season, but over short spells you absolutely can and cooper was, we were comfortably second best in every single game under him, he was absolutely awful, that we've not improved under RvN shouldn't have people pretending otherwise 

 

Not having this rewriting of history on the west ham game. could it have ended a draw, perhaps, but a lot of speculative shots does not equal creativity. this is ultimately highlighted by the xG city 2.78 - 2.88 west ham, from a shot count of 8-31, the individual chances we created were far better than theirs, they took a lot of shots but only the goal and another were more than half chances. 

[Hammo]

Cooper and Van Nistelrooy have both been bad appointments.

 

The only difference is that we knew Cooper would be a disaster from the outset, whereas RvN was a gamble that has failed.

[Gamble92]

55 minutes ago, TrentFox said:

The idea of “sticking with RVN” makes me feel ill. Totally out of his depth, as appeared likely at the time of his appointment to most people on here. Not all, but most. I don’t see anything about his impact that makes me confident of a successful championship campaign under his tutelage next season. I can’t believe even we would be so naive as to give him the opportunity. 

The way he seems strangely upbeat after every game makes me think he's been told he has the job next season no matter what the division, and he sees winning the Championship next season as a Maresca type reputation jump. 

 

 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, The Guvnor said:

Thought Ayew was ok today, he’s obviously not the player we were all hoping for but he’s a decent pro and who’s the alternative, Daka seems a decent bloke,  he’s quick and presses quite well but that’s it, unfortunately not a goal scorer at this level, and one of the best goal scorers there’s ever been thinks the same.

Mavididi is the alternative in that position. 

[Foxin_Mad]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Mavididi is the alternative in that position. 

He is shit, came on, gave the ball away, jogged back as per. Sick of the sight of him and our fans who think he’s the answer.

 

 

[HankMarvin]

3 hours ago, The Doctor said:

probably the fact that we barely deserved 50% of the points we got under Cooper, but had significantly more luck than RVN has.

 

like, genuinely, the points dropped under Ruud, where do you see points that Cooper would have got? name games.

Not been fortunate under RVN no?

already highlighted the 7 points were fortunate 

[dillonpanthers87]

what self respecting, intelligent manager would come anywhere near us? I'm done with Ruud - but who would we realistically get? Let's take Will Still - if I'm him, and Leicester approached, I'm still waiting for the next few opportunities in a club where I can actually make meaningful impact to the structure. 

[HankMarvin]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Facundo went off the boil during Coopers tenure and has been too much of a passenger when called on, not the only one admittedly.

3 games without a goal or assist before he scored against Brentford, prior to that 2 goals and an assist in his previous 3.

Him off the boil is still better that what others have produced 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Mavididi is the alternative in that position. 

Been dogshit all season.

[Bptiger]

7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Been dogshit all season.

I would be playing like dog shit , if Reid was getting picked in front of me . We don’t have anyone who can hold the ball up front and we leave are two best ball players on the bench , Rudd for gods sake start picking a attacking side 

[cityfanlee23]

4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Squad being rubbish is just an excuse. You’ve got to work with what you’ve got. Cooper was getting more out of this squad.

 

Everton squad isn’t great, and they struggled for goals under Dyche, but Moyes has completely turned them around.

 

We hired an awful inexperienced manager when our aim was to just stay up. 

Moyes has turned Beto into Eto'o

[Deeg67]

1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

3 games without a goal or assist before he scored against Brentford, prior to that 2 goals and an assist in his previous 3.

Him off the boil is still better that what others have produced 

Ayew is OK for what he is, works hard and defends, but in a squad with so little pace and creativity he’s a luxury we can’t afford. To the extent that there’s any hope whatsoever of survival it hinges on Buonanotte starting every match. He’s capable of producing goals from nothing and apart from Bilal we have no one else who can do that.

[Dmitry]

RVN should to be sacked today or tomorrow. Surely he was set up for a fall by the cowardly Chairman and his Chief Waiter.

 

[Deeg67]

Clearly RVN was promised reinforcements in January and apart from Woyo he got bupkis. I don't agree with everything he's doing but he was clearly backstabbed.

Edited 16 February by Deeg67

[Dmitry]

[CrazyKopCorner]

RVNs in game management agility is shocking 

 

[Happy Fox]

If we sack him now and bring in an experienced manager at this level aka Rafa I reckon we stay up just by the skin of our teeth. But it’s clear to all to see the board yet again have reared their ugly head and untill these charlatans in the boardroom depart we will remain in a perilous position.