Outgoing Rumours

[LestaLad]

Thought I would start an outgoings thread, can merge it if you want it in the twitter transfer rumours one. 

[LVFox]

His little cameos under Ruud imply he sees a future for him, obviously doesn't feel he's ready yet though. If he goes out, it's on loan because we've bought one or two in.

[FosseSpark]

id rather us lose Faes than Okoli. Faes has more clangers in him...

Edited 2 January by FosseSpark

[Sankey93]

Sell if possible not good enough imo! 

[Mickyblueeyes]

11 minutes ago, LestaLad said:

Thought I would start an outgoings thread, can merge it if you want it in the twitter transfer rumours one. 

The only cb here I wouldn’t want to see go!

[coolhandfox]

40 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The only cb here I wouldn’t want to see go!

Wonder if he hasn't settle in the England.

[StanSP]

No wonder we're looking at Centre-backs and being lazily linked with Maguire and Lindelof. Perhaps Okoli's agent is touting him out... 

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

No wonder we're looking at Centre-backs and being lazily linked with Maguire and Lindelof. Perhaps Okoli's agent is touting him out... 

If we don't strengthen in that department we are gone, none of the four we have are good enough.

[StanSP]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

If we don't strengthen in that department we are gone, none of the four we have are good enough.

Fair, I just didn't expect Okoli the one to be going. I'd rather it'd be Faes first. 

[South Shire Fox]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

No wonder we're looking at Centre-backs and being lazily linked with Maguire and Lindelof. Perhaps Okoli's agent is touting him out... 

Think thats more because we concede 3 plus goals a game on a regular basis..

Edited 2 January by South Shire Fox

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Fair, I just didn't expect Okoli the one to be going. I'd rather it'd be Faes first. 

Maybe he's not settle in a new country, I think we would be happy to move any of them on.

[HankMarvin]

Looks like he will miss the gym and facilities. If the story wasn’t total bollocks.

5 year deal, 5 months moved on after playing 9 times 🤔

 

I was shocked when I saw it for the first time. I grew up in Zingonia [Atalanta’s training setup] and until this summer I thought that centres like that were the best. But when I arrived here I was speechless, I assure you that we are on another planet . There are 21 pitches and one of them is covered. Then we have two gyms where nothing is missing and also in terms of recovery we have everything, from saunas to swimming pools."

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I don't think he's very good (I don't think any of our centre backs are) and wouldn't be bothered if we could strike a deal providing it doesn't knacker us even further

[Bluearmyfox28]

Not good enough technically for how Ruud wants to play. 

[It'sblueupnorth]

13m, god knows how much on wages. Who the **** is signing these deals off

[honeybradger]

He would be fine if we didnt try to play possession football as he's a good tackler but that's the style we're going for so he's not good enough.

 

Just shows how bad the scouting is that the average Serie A fan said we were making a mistake paying so much money for him but the so called professionals at the club could not see it. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

It makes you wonder who pushed to sign him, was it a club driven signing or was it someone Cooper had on his radar from his time at Forest, given he lacks technical ability you would have to question if he was ever on the clubs radar whilst Enzo was around. 
 

As others have said it just confirms how disconnected the club is in regards to its football operations. 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Funny how many people don't rate CBs who can actually tackle. 🤔

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Funny how many people don't rate CBs who can actually tackle. 🤔

 

I know you're half making a joke but I wouldn't have tackling at the top of my priorities for a CB in all seriousness.

 

Aerial duels won is vital in the Premier League. Beyond that, reading of the game, spacial awareness, strength/use of size, blocks and in an ideal world some pace are all bigger priorities than actual tackle success.

 

You could almost argue that if a CB needs to rely on their tackling, something else is going wrong.

 

Players with the highest tackle numbers in the league will nearly all be full backs and central midfielders.

 

Edited 3 January by Finnegan

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

26 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I know you're half making a joke but I wouldn't have tackling at the top of my priorities for a CB in all seriousness.

 

Aerial duels won is vital in the Premier League. Beyond that, reading of the game, spacial awareness, strength/use of size, blocks and in an ideal world some pace are all bigger priorities than actual tackle success.

 

You could almost argue that if a CB needs to rely on their tackling, something else is going wrong.

 

Players with the highest tackle numbers in the league will nearly all be full backs and central midfielders.

 

Van Dijk, Moore, Beckenbauer, Baresi, etc. All great tackling CBs. I want my defenders to tackle where needed. Don't think they have/had much else going wrong... 

Edited 3 January by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[Sol thewall Bamba]

11 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The only cb here I wouldn’t want to see go!

Same, not sure what he did wrong to get dropped let alone sold.

[Ric Flair]

I like what I've seen of Okoli but like with almost all our centre halves it's very confusing. They're all OK in their own right and yet we keep signing loads of them that quickly aren't considered important by the manager.

 

Souttar

Faes

Coady

Okoli

 

All four of them are here nor there, got strengths and weaknesses, especially at this level.

 

Only Vestergaard has the passing ability that sets him apart and his lack of pace makes him and us vulnerable but we feel the loss of him when he doesn't play IMO.

 

Ben Nelson hopefully is better than all of them. 

 

Ideally we sell Faes and it looked like we might recoup a fair chunk of what we paid for Souttar but he'll now be out for a year and we face a very uncertain outcome with him. Coady I'd try and move on as well.

[AKCJ]

52 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Van Dijk, Moore, Beckenbauer, Baresi, etc. All great tackling CBs. I want my defenders to tackle where needed. Don't think they have/had much else going wrong... 

I would say the best attributes of those players is being able to read the game. Something our centre backs seemingly cannot do.

[LCFCCKEANO]

55 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

Van Dijk, Moore, Beckenbauer, Baresi, etc. All great tackling CBs. I want my defenders to tackle where needed. Don't think they have/had much else going wrong... 

Van Dijk is pretty known for not getting dribbled past and not diving into tackles unless it’s a last resort, didn’t he set a record of that ilk a few years back

[Chelmofox]

10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I like what I've seen of Okoli but like with almost all our centre halves it's very confusing. They're all OK in their own right and yet we keep signing loads of them that quickly aren't considered important by the manager.

 

Souttar

Faes

Coady

Okoli

 

All four of them are here nor there, got strengths and weaknesses, especially at this level.

 

Only Vestergaard has the passing ability that sets him apart and his lack of pace makes him and us vulnerable but we feel the loss of him when he doesn't play IMO.

 

Ben Nelson hopefully is better than all of them. 

 

Ideally we sell Faes and it looked like we might recoup a fair chunk of what we paid for Souttar but he'll now be out for a year and we face a very uncertain outcome with him. Coady I'd try and move on as well.

I like what i've seen from Okoli at times, but he is young and still accommodating to the Premier League. Being a LCFC center back is a thankless task!  

 

Coady seems to be hugely in favour right now, so i can't see Ruud agreeing to get rid at the moment. I think if anyone goes its Faes and we might be able to make an amortised profit on him.