Okoli

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, beepee1984 said:

I just want to say I feel it very harsh on Big Dan to be included in this list.

 

OK so he wasn't great with the ball at his feet, he did however try and I feel should not be remembered with the quite the same disdain as the others on this list

I was speaking very specifically about technical ability which amartey had very little of 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

12 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Rodgers playing Amartey as a first choice centre half was the actual issue, because he had whatever issue with Soyuncu

Spurs away, May 2022. Soy wimps out of a 50/50 then rolls around on the floor pretending to be injured as Son rolls the ball into our net. He only started one more league game under Rodgers after that.

[TJB-fox]

3 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

He's objectively worse than Faes. This is just cognitive bias. 

 

Boils my piss seeing people celebrate Amartey like he isn't part of the reason we were relegated in the first place. 

 

Are you really taking my comments as celebrating Amartey? Crikey Finnegan.

 

Faes is a terrible footballer and completely error-ridden, Amartey would be a better option now.

[TJB-fox]

2 hours ago, RumbleFox said:

It boils my piss just slightly less than when people take a tongue in cheek post seriously and then write a condescending reply throwing in a “cognitive bias” for extra pretentious points. 

I just hope everything is OK at home for @Finnegan 

[Finnegan]

37 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

I just hope everything is OK at home for @Finnegan 

 

1 hour ago, TJB-fox said:

Are you really taking my comments as celebrating Amartey? Crikey Finnegan.

 

Faes is a terrible footballer and completely error-ridden, Amartey would be a better option now.

 

I'm fine man thanks yeah, how are you buddy? 

 

But @RumbleFox was implying I shouldn't take his opinion seriously where as you're doubling down on claiming Amartey would be a better option than Faes. 

 

So maybe you guys need to go away and work out whether or not you're serious before you @ me again

 

[TJB-fox]

Just now, Finnegan said:

 

 

I'm fine man thanks yeah, how are you buddy? 

 

But @RumbleFox was implying I shouldn't take his opinion seriously where as you're doubling down on claiming Amartey would be a better option than Faes. 

 

So maybe you guys need to go away and work out whether or not you're serious before you @ me again

 

I do think Amartey is a better option than Faes, doesn’t mean I think either are good footballers. 
 

Id much rather have Amartey than Faes, a million times over. 

[funkyrobot]

5 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Yes I would until we upgrade. If we ever upgrade. 
 

Faes and Vestegaard are past their time here. There will be no consistent “success” with them here. Any short term success will be met with their toys out the pram, fault finding etc. collapses. It’s time to move on. 
 

I appreciate you want them in the team, I’m not there. That’s up to you.  Playing them is short sighted given that neither will be here next summer and not a long term option. To finish 8th instead of 10th isn’t really a reason. I can’t get behind them and a few others in the team and I think if you asked them, they’d both want to move on. This club will continue to suffer if the culture is not sorted.

Unfortunately, poor management, leadership and recruitment means we have little option at present. 

 

I just want the best players in their positions in the team. In our weakened, imbalanced Championship standard squad (that is all it is) it’s very difficult to drop our best defender in Vestergaard. Simple as that. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

34 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

I just want the best players in their positions in the team. In our weakened, imbalanced Championship standard squad (that is all it is) it’s very difficult to drop our best defender in Vestergaard. Simple as that. 

And you’re being completely reasonable in your assessment. Does Vestegaard have more experience than Okoli, yes. Does he have a decent record at this level, yes. On paper, he is the obvious choice for reasons you have given. 
 

From my side, does he have history of throwing a wobbly, yes. Does he have problems with consistency, yes. Has he had disastrous games on many occasions, yes. 
 

For me, I can’t see how either Faes or Vestegaard have a future here. I’d rather go with others we have and move these two on as I don’t think purely for culture they are the best for us. And while we can move them on, I think last season should’ve been the end. Why is there such an issue with a differing opinion where I or anyone else absolutely needs to agree. Jannick Vestegaard, Wout Faes, Luke Thomas or even Patson Daka are not going into any hall of fame records soon. I also don’t think if any of those on the above list were drop it would have a major impact on what we could achieve this season.

 

So yes, I’m perfectly comfortable with neither ever playing for Leicester again. You are. And that is completely fine. Simple as that. 

[Sly]

5 hours ago, beepee1984 said:

I just want to say I feel it very harsh on Big Dan to be included in this list.

 

OK so he wasn't great with the ball at his feet, he did however try and I feel should not be remembered with the quite the same disdain as the others on this list

For me, he was as bad and no better than the current crop we have. 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, funkyrobot said:

I just want the best players in their positions in the team. In our weakened, imbalanced Championship standard squad (that is all it is) it’s very difficult to drop our best defender in Vestergaard. Simple as that. 

What makes Vestergaard out best defender?

 

Its a genuine question by the way, because i have a huge argument against this.

[Bourbon Fox]

3 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

Are you really taking my comments as celebrating Amartey? Crikey Finnegan.

 

Faes is a terrible footballer and completely error-ridden, Amartey would be a better option now.

Prime Wout > prime Big Dan

[Dahnsouff]

9 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

What makes Vestergaard out best defender?

 

Its a genuine question by the way, because i have a huge argument against this.

It depends entirely on what a defender in this day and age should be expected to provide to the team.

[RumbleFox]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

I'm fine man thanks yeah, how are you buddy? 

 

But @RumbleFox was implying I shouldn't take his opinion seriously where as you're doubling down on claiming Amartey would be a better option than Faes. 

 

So maybe you guys need to go away and work out whether or not you're serious before you @ me again

 

Tbf I genuinely would rather have Amartey than Faes as I love the big twat but he is not as good a CB as Faes when both playing to their fullest. 

[Pliskin]

Incredible to think he’s played for Italy. He’s ****ing shit. 

[murphy]

1 hour ago, RumbleFox said:

Tbf I genuinely would rather have Amartey than Faes as I love the big twat but he is not as good a CB as Faes when both playing to their fullest. 

I was very glad to see the back of Dan but I'll be even gladder to see the back of Wout, so by that logic, Dan > Wout.  I think.

 

Its a bit like arguing whether a migraine is better than an ulcer mind.

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

What makes Vestergaard out best defender?

 

Its a genuine question by the way, because i have a huge argument against this.

Because the other ones are Wout Faes and Caleb Okoli.

[funkyrobot]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

And you’re being completely reasonable in your assessment. Does Vestegaard have more experience than Okoli, yes. Does he have a decent record at this level, yes. On paper, he is the obvious choice for reasons you have given. 
 

From my side, does he have history of throwing a wobbly, yes. Does he have problems with consistency, yes. Has he had disastrous games on many occasions, yes. 
 

For me, I can’t see how either Faes or Vestegaard have a future here. I’d rather go with others we have and move these two on as I don’t think purely for culture they are the best for us. And while we can move them on, I think last season should’ve been the end. Why is there such an issue with a differing opinion where I or anyone else absolutely needs to agree. Jannick Vestegaard, Wout Faes, Luke Thomas or even Patson Daka are not going into any hall of fame records soon. I also don’t think if any of those on the above list were drop it would have a major impact on what we could achieve this season.

 

So yes, I’m perfectly comfortable with neither ever playing for Leicester again. You are. And that is completely fine. Simple as that. 

In just interested in the football. What problems with consistency has Vestergaard had in The Championship?  He’s been consistently good in this division under 2 managers. Deal in facts. Vestergaard is proven to be more than capable at this level. Vestergaard has been our best defender this season.

 

I’ve not mentioned Daka and Thomas at any point btw. 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

It depends entirely on what a defender in this day and age should be expected to provide to the team.

Out transition approach and way we attack is built around Vestergaard. As a defender, he is slow, poor aerially and actually quite easy to be bullied off the ball. We have seen what he is like in the PL against quality and pacy attackers, and many Championship level attackers have done a job on him. He is not a good defender and not someone we should be building the team around from a defensive perspective. I strongly doubt there are any other EPL teams yearning to have him in their team.

 

Granted, he is a good passer of the ball. But the way he does this has to be done on his terms and im not convinced its how Marti really wants to be playing. He slows the transition right down and can only pass into available space. By the time he done something (and not gone sideways) the opposition have had time to get into their defensive shape. He can't transition quickly, and is the root cause of out current issues.

 

JV has to be dropped. I would sooner play Okoli for his defensive attributed and not try and build attacked from the CB's.

[Chelmofox]

20 minutes ago, murphy said:

Because the other ones are Wout Faes and Caleb Okoli.

They are actually better defenders. Okoli is pi55 poor at passing, and Wout suffers with the problem of being a c**t.

Edited 26 October 2025 by Chelmofox

[dmayne7]

15 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

In just interested in the football. What problems with consistency has Vestergaard had in The Championship?  He’s been consistently good in this division under 2 managers. Deal in facts. Vestergaard is proven to be more than capable at this level. Vestergaard has been our best defender this season.

 

I’ve not mentioned Daka and Thomas at any point btw. 

If you think Vestergaard has been good this season, then your bar is so low, you might be lucky enough to find it in the earth's core.

 

He's been our best defender this season, on that we can agree. But that's a reflection of his teammates inadequacies or lack of game time. He's very capable at this level in a 2 specific roles; either in the middle of a back 3 or as part of a team that's going to dominate most games. If not, he's mediocre at best, pitiful at other times.

[MPH]

2 hours ago, RumbleFox said:

Tbf I genuinely would rather have Amartey than Faes as I love the big twat but he is not as good a CB as Faes when both playing to their fullest. 

 

 

this is a little bit sneaky to add.. I mean… when has Faes ever played at his fullest for us?!  Maybe once?

[Mickyblueeyes]

17 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

In just interested in the football. What problems with consistency has Vestergaard had in The Championship?  He’s been consistently good in this division under 2 managers. Deal in facts. Vestergaard is proven to be more than capable at this level. Vestergaard has been our best defender this season.

 

I’ve not mentioned Daka and Thomas at any point btw. 

We’ve won one in what eight ? Kept 3 clean sheets in the league. Conceded against Wrexham (which was a Vestegaard mistake) and Pompey when in relative control in the game. We were turned over by Preston in the dying minutes where their striker creeped in between Vestegaard and another. He’s been front and centre of that defence so I’m not sure we have the same definition of “good”. These are the facts.
 

I’m not exactly sure what it is you think we will lose playing any of Vestegaard, Okoli, Faes or Nelson.

 

So if he has been our “best defender” that’s all good and well but we are sat on two defeats in a row and 1 win in 8. We are not going to lose anything. However, we do need a refresh and I’m not sure such an ardent defence of the man mountain Jannick Vestegaard is what we need at the moment. Or even justified. 
 

 

 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

3 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Incredible to think he’s played for Italy. He’s ****ing shit. 

 

He hasn't played for Italy at senior level.

[Sunbury Fox]

The signing of Okoli says everything about the lack of joined-up strategy at the club. We're apparently wedded to hiring managers who aspire to play Pep ball, and yet we sign a CB who would have made the 1980s Wimbledon defenders look like Maldini on the ball. Beggars belief really. Unless Marti moves away from building up attacks through the thirds, beginning with our CBs, I don't see how Okoli can start in games, irrespective of any attributes he might have, such as pace, physicality and seemingly a good attitude. 

[adam]

What a ****ing awful footballer.  Faes is shit but twice the player of this idiot.