Unpopular LCFC Opinions

[MattFox]

13 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Leicester fans didn’t have a special relationship with Vichai.

 

The tragic circumstances of his death triggered grief buried within people for people they actually knew and it took on a Princess Diana esque spectacle where it was, quite frankly, ridiculous to see people crying in public over someone they never knew.

 

Leicester fans couldn’t recognise his voice, tell you his birthday (despite the free doughnuts) or anything else significant about him as a man. He was as private and shady as a man gifted a monopoly by the king of Thailand should be.

 

The co-ordinated grief and brain-washy type slogans like ‘Always In Our Hearts’ and ‘The Boss’ pushed by the club are superb examples of how you can manipulate the majority of people into thinking a certain way. This is now actually harming the club as accountability for the current owner is lacking due to association with the former

one.

 

 

Not sure I agree with all this

 

But it’s easy to forget that the KPFC meme/backlash actually started to gain traction back in 2017/18 when Vichai was still alive 

 

I think they’d have been some form of opposition to KP build whatever happened 

[The Year Of The Fox]

Thomas > Kristiansen

[fazzyfox]

That Man Utd offside was hairline, could have gone either way.

[when_you're_smiling]

9 minutes ago, fazzyfox said:

That Man Utd offside was hairline, could have gone either way.

It’s Harry Maguire’s hair line. It’s ****ing huge!

[body102]

I thought Daka did ok tonight , I know others wont agree

[It'sblueupnorth]

Albrighton should never have played for England. Couldn’t beat a man, didn’t score goals, didn’t really get assists. People go overboard on his crossing like he was Trent but it was largely slinging an early ball in because he couldn’t take his full back on. Fans took to him because of his world class attitude and I loved him because he always popped up with big European goals but in terms of actual ability he wasn’t very good for this level. People slag off an over the hill bdcr but he’s already got half an average albrighton goals and assists haul this season in a massively worse team 

[Winchesterfox]

On 07/02/2025 at 17:12, murphy said:

I wish that we hadn't sacked Rodgers until the end of the season so that he has that relegation on his CV.

It’s still on his CV.  That’s why he’s at Celtic.  

[Royston.]

I think Ayew is one of our better players even though he is finished after 30 minutes.

[peterborofox]

On 07/02/2025 at 18:33, CrazyKopCorner said:

The final game Vs Blackburn last season I found Us to be incredibly unprofessional and I was so ****ed off I left before the ceremony was presented after all of the titting around. 

 

I had an inclination then that this season would be a shambles. 

 

A football club with totally unprofessional players and a ****ing circus off of it 

Only just seen this and totally agree. 

 

The celebrations of winning a league we should never have been in was embarrassing I thought. 

 

The open top bus was cringe af. Would Newcastle or West Ham have one next season if they got relegated this season? That's the equivalent in terms of squad and money/wages spent on our side. 

 

I was also fuming we didn't get 100+ points mainly because I was in line to win a fair few hundred in bets I had placed since August. We should have got 110+ points easily really with that team

[CrazyKopCorner]

8 hours ago, peterborofox said:

Only just seen this and totally agree. 

 

The celebrations of winning a league we should never have been in was embarrassing I thought. 

 

The open top bus was cringe af. Would Newcastle or West Ham have one next season if they got relegated this season? That's the equivalent in terms of squad and money/wages spent on our side. 

 

I was also fuming we didn't get 100+ points mainly because I was in line to win a fair few hundred in bets I had placed since August. We should have got 110+ points easily really with that team

Agreed. 

 

The fact they were showing the players at Seagrave on the piss when we'd got a game on the Saturday totally pissed me off as well. 

 

Over celebration of what should should have been a cakewalk - The players should still have been preparing for the game on Saturday they're professional athletes and should have had more about them and they should have been going all out for the win. Go on the piss after by all means. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

 

 

If you were in any doubt about our fate this season, I think this just about confirms it.

 

[Bilo]

We were better run between 2014 and 2021 than Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth are now.

 

Our net spend was less than any of them and we won three major trophies with more regular European football. 

 

The anger and frustration comes from the fact that we've gone from arguably the best run club in English football to a basket case.

[Ashley]

48 minutes ago, Bilo said:

We were better run between 2014 and 2021 than Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth are now.

 

Our net spend was less than any of them and we won three major trophies with more regular European football. 

 

The anger and frustration comes from the fact that we've gone from arguably the best run club in English football to a basket case.

Is that unpopular?

[foxfan92]

Although I'm not keen on the system, we have a load of central defenders all better when playing in a back 3, yet we insist on playing a back 4 and wonder why they don't look comfortable defending....

 

(Not me defending them, but maybe we need to adjust the system to one that suits the players strengths ...)

[Sir Steve Howard]

On 07/02/2025 at 15:56, The Doctor said:

have you heard of this thing called COVID, kinda shut down a lot of the airports throughout the latter half of 2020

Didn't stop me doing Zorya away in Dec 2020. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Chelmofox]

On 07/02/2025 at 20:14, The Year Of The Fox said:

Thomas > Kristiansen

I thought Thomas was ok against Man u actually. Viktor is more physical, but i don't think there is a massive gulf between them both.

[roblcfc84]

(Excluding JV) we haven’t had a single decent (consistent) striker since Ulloa. 

[SemperEadem]

1 hour ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

Didn't stop me doing Zorya away in Dec 2020. Where there's a will, there's a way.

When you went into Seagrave for belated thank you for travelling to Moscow visit. Did you tell them you also were are Zorya, do they know you were one of only two Leicester fans who went there?

[Gamble92]

3 hours ago, Bilo said:

We were better run between 2014 and 2021 than Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth are now.

 

Our net spend was less than any of them and we won three major trophies with more regular European football. 

 

The anger and frustration comes from the fact that we've gone from arguably the best run club in English football to a basket case.

We were well run but we were only occupying that space behind the top 6 because clubs like Villa, Newcastle and West Ham were in the shit. We were beneficiaries of huge sales that were unprecedented and not exactly planned. No one at the club said sign Maguire because we'll get 80m for him. 

 

The fact we were in that space was down to a lot of good fortune too. We absolutely blown it when real decisions needed to be made.

[Stadt]

4 hours ago, Bilo said:

We were better run between 2014 and 2021 than Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth are now.

 

Our net spend was less than any of them and we won three major trophies with more regular European football. 

 

The anger and frustration comes from the fact that we've gone from arguably the best run club in English football to a basket case.

We were incredibly lucky. Appointing Ranieri (who applied, we didn’t seek him out) and winning the league after sacking our successful manger because his son and his mates got rimmed on film wasn’t genius planning.

 

Appointing Shakespeare permanently wasn’t  a particularly well run-club move. Puel was just available, not the result of a through managerial search (shallow managerial recruitment is a KP staple).

 

The reason our net spend was less than half was because of the general inflation in football. Our spend across summers 14 and 15 would be at least double now. Ulloa as a good championship striker would be £25m, Kante would be double or treble the price. Okazaki the same.

Edited 10 February by Stadt

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

On 07/02/2025 at 20:14, The Year Of The Fox said:

Thomas > Kristiansen

I remember having a similar debate about Alan Rogers and Chris Makin. But I agree. I’m not sure what anyone sees in VK, he’s such a one dimensional full back. Our Luke is not a world beater, but I do think he’s better than VK.

Edited 10 February by Wasyls Pec Deck

[Finnegan]

30 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We were incredibly lucky. Appointing Ranieri (who applied, we didn’t seek him out) and winning the league after sacking manger because his son and his mates got rimmed

on film wasn’t genius planning.

 

Appointing Shakespeare permanently wasn’t  a particularly well run-club move. Puel was just available, not the result of a through managerial search (shallow managerial recruitment is a KP staple).

 

The reason our net spend was less than half was because of the general inflation in football. Our spend across summers 14 and 15 would be at least double now. Ulloa as a good championship striker would be £25m, Kante would be double or treble the price. Okazaki the same.

 

You don't win a Premier League title through luck, in fairness. 

 

We did (probably still do) a lot of good things as a football club. 

 

The problem we have is that regime change at a managerial level makes a drastic impact on us because the important decision making is made too low down the club's hierarchy. 

 

There's a bit of a myth here that Brendan Rodgers somehow managed to wrestle too much power. Whilst it's true he wielded too much influence and tanked the club with it, the idea that he's unique in having this level of control or that we gave it too him exclusively is wrong and the evidence was there years before. 

 

Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh built something absolutely brilliant. Recruitment, sports science, nutrition, even sports psychology were all modernised and brought up to elite standards. Pearson had the image of a dourist and a bit of a caveman in the media because he was a hard nosed, English, ex-centre back with a military haircut and no style that didn't like them. 

 

But the reality was that he was an extremely progressive intellectual that moulded the club in his image.

 

Claudio Ranieri, long before Rodgers, deconstructed a lot of that. He revised the nutrition based on his traditionalist, dated methods, he had no idea how to manage recruitment (because most Italians are reliant on a DOF model) and he even famously binned off the sports psychologist. Pearson handed him unprecedented success and he dismantled it in a manner he should never have been allowed to. 

 

The same ebb and flow between Puel, Rodgers, Maresca and Cooper is just that pattern happening in cycles again and again. 

 

So I suppose it depends what @Bilo means by well run and at what levels of the club. I don't think we, as a club, were lucky in the Pearson era (for which, I think most of us agree, you can slightly include 15/16.) Vichai tried big, famous names, realised it got him nowhere, brought Pearson back, listened to him, invested in him and let him build the club. It was good judgement and Pearson ran a good footballing operation. To that end, I'd say we were well run. 

 

But you're also right in that, from the boardroom, we've made some howlers and yeah there has been a certain amount of luck involved because when your club is run at the manager's level then you roll the dice every time you recruit one. 

 

United are the text book example of this. SAF was the greatest ever football manager in the old British idea of the job roll, which Pearson largely conforms to.  He literally ran United, often not even bothering to actually lead training himself or even attend. 

 

But they refused to conform to a modern model after he left, as we've done really, and so they roll the dice every time they hire. 

 

The problem being that year by year, generation by generation, there's less managers out there to recruit and more head coaches. Especially when you recruit from overseas (which is probably a large part of why we look domestically every time we hire.) Most people that want to be head coaches in the Premier League these days expect to be able to be a Guardiola, a Slot or a Klopp, come in and hyper fixate on coaching the first team and not have to worry about everything else that goes on with it. 

 

You can't do that at Leicester because we don't have staff to take care of all those other components of the footballing side of the club because Jon Rudkin is largely just an administrative senior manager. By all accounts, a pretty good one as well, which is what makes the entire thing more difficult and absurd, because he's apparently well loved in house for doing the job he's been asked to correctly. 

 

Just, it's the wrong job for the title and for the club's success. 

 

Edited 10 February by Finnegan

[The Doctor]

2 hours ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

Didn't stop me doing Zorya away in Dec 2020. Where there's a will, there's a way.

wasn't that behind closed doors? the official attendance for the game is 0.

 

 

[Daggers]

3 hours ago, Ashley said:

Is that unpopular?

It is with the absolute fvckwits at the club.

[Sir Steve Howard]

9 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

wasn't that behind closed doors? the official attendance for the game is 0.

 

 

Could see (half) the pitch through one of the gates outside the ground. A bunch of Zorya ultras turned up with stroboscopes and flares, was incredible. After we politely turned down their offer of a scrap, they took us to their bar after the game. Still have a load of them on instagram, one has moved to Derbyshire because of the war.