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1 hour ago, kingfox said:

And even though you disagree, it’s exactly why I’ve mentioned Cleverley. 
 

“Aligns with the players we have”. He went with a 4-2-3-1 formation at times last season which is perfect for our squad. He played with direct ball carriers which is what we have in Mavididi and Fatawu. Played with a deep-lying playmaker, we have that in Winks and Skipp. While as I’ve said, he prioritised youth which is what we need right now. 
 

If the club want to stick with a more possession based style, he’ll give us that too. 
 

Rohl would be my number 1 choice because he fits the up-and-coming fresh approach, but let’s be honest, he’d come with a few red flags too. For example Sheffield Wednesday had one of the oldest squads in the Championship, he relied on numerous 30+ year olds, he could do the exact same thing at Leicester, we’d be dipping right into the unknown with him where youth development is concerned. Rosenior has been terrific at Strasbourg with the youngest squad in Ligue 1, his style of play though is far from perfect, some of his stats at Hull were almost identical to Russell Martin’s Southampton team. You say Manning would be a risk, but hasn’t he done a bit more than Danny Rohl? 
 

Many EFL pundits saw Watford as relegation candidates last season, Cleverley got them over performing in the first half of the season. Yes they dropped off in the second half of the season, but as I said in my previous post, they needed a striker in January, the ownership didn’t give him one, so he was relying on a 19 year old because their more senior striker in Vakoun Bayo was crap. While one of their most influential players in Kwadwo Baah got injured, and missed pretty much all of the second half of the season. 
 

I’d be happy with Rohl, Rosenior, Cleverley or Manning as it would be a statement of intent from the club, that they are looking in the fresh up-and-coming direction. With the squad we have, with the plethora of youngsters coming through, I just feel it ticks the right boxes for Cleverley as he had similar at Watford. 

There certainly is risk with all the candidates but that’s why I’m many ways reputation will have to play a factor. 
 

With Rohl I think it’s a case of doing what you need to in order to survive… a very good sign as if we get promoted you’ll need to make some sacrifices in order to survive.  
 

There were question marks over LR’s hull side but when you look at life without him that’s a good indication that he knew the player limits. They couldn’t play the constant attacking football because they simply weren’t good enough.  in both cases I see positives in some of those negatives. 
 

The decision always has to be weighted by what’s possible and maybe Rohl and LR aren’t actually plausible. But I know until they’re ruled out I’d be looking at them first. 
 

I try to think about how I’d feel if a rival were to appoint the manager. If McKenna left for a better gig and Ipswich were hiring Rohl or Liam, I’d be having dread and envy. if they were hiring TC, I’d think… hmm interesting and wouldn’t consider them much of a threat. 
 

if they hired Martin, I’d be elated lol

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22 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

There certainly is risk with all the candidates but that’s why I’m many ways reputation will have to play a factor. 
 

With Rohl I think it’s a case of doing what you need to in order to survive… a very good sign as if we get promoted you’ll need to make some sacrifices in order to survive.  
 

There were question marks over LR’s hull side but when you look at life without him that’s a good indication that he knew the player limits. They couldn’t play the constant attacking football because they simply weren’t good enough.  in both cases I see positives in some of those negatives. 
 

The decision always has to be weighted by what’s possible and maybe Rohl and LR aren’t actually plausible. But I know until they’re ruled out I’d be looking at them first. 
 

I try to think about how I’d feel if a rival were to appoint the manager. If McKenna left for a better gig and Ipswich were hiring Rohl or Liam, I’d be having dread and envy. if they were hiring TC, I’d think… hmm interesting and wouldn’t consider them much of a threat. 
 

if they hired Martin, I’d be elated lol

There’s definitely more risk when it comes to the more up-and-coming names, the likes of Dyche or Hasenhuttl would feel more safe, but they’d also be very uninspiring. 
 

Of the type of football we need to give us a better shot long term, it’s why I’d favour Rohl over others. 
 

Rosenior has his positives, but I just don’t favour his style of play over other potential candidates. Statistically there’s similarities to what he produced at Hull, to what he is now producing at Strasbourg. In terms of direct speed, his Hull side were the only team in the Championship that were slower than Russell Martin’s Southampton. 
 

But you make a fair point when talking about rivals. Especially with what Southampton have done by appointing Will Still, they went for the exciting, fresh, up-and-coming approach, Leicester City need to counteract that appointment.
 

Danny Rohl gets the slight edge in that regard. 

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44 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Announce Ruud !

This would be a poor outcome. The bad feeling from last season will carry over. Let alone the fact we were so poor under him. He has shown absolutely nothing in terms of man management that shows he can turn us around. 

 

A fresh face, fresh ideas is the way to go now. Get everyone back on side and have a plan. 

 

Keeping Ruud will show lack of ambition, money and passion from the board to be successful. I'm in the Rohl camp

 

All that said, I can definitely see this happening. We are rock bottom if so

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4 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Announce Ruud !

God I hope not.

 

Nothing will change, he lacks all the management qualities we need.  The loss stats alone are enough to part ways with him.

He lacks in tactical awareness, his team selections were (and no doubt will continue too be) shocking. His style of play is...well rubbish. His in game management was shockingly poor.   

OK he'll be afforded a bit of slack with us dropping down a league and the quality of  the opposition we will.face, but even so he will IMO still be found wanting next season if he stays.

 

 

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Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

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2 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

God I hope not.

 

Nothing will change, he lacks all the manament qualities we need.  The loss stats alone are enough to part ways with him.

He lacks in tactical awareness, his team selections were (and no doubt will continue too be) shocking. His style of play is...well rubbish. His in game management was shockingly poor.   

OK he'll be afforded a bit of slack with us dropping down a league and the quality of  the opposition we will.face, but even so he will IMO still be found wanting next season if he stays.

 

 

Not only that, I am yet to be convinced that he gives a toss. I get the impression that after the losses piled up, he was simply going through the motions. 

 

As it stands, I think there might be some brinkmanship going on.  The board want rid of Ruud but don't want to pay him off.  Ruud wants to leave but he won't walk because he wants his pay off.  I wouldn't be surprised if we offered Ruud the job in the hope that he would turn it down and run a mile. 

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28 minutes ago, hedersfox said:

Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

Suggested him the other day, be interesting to see how he'd do in a more competitive league

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43 minutes ago, hedersfox said:

Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

Risky. Both teams had won the league the season before he arrived as well.

 

Fenecvaros are on something like 7 or 8 in a row...

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Keanes managed 80 games and only lost 12 of them..

Win percentage is over 70 percent

And he plays 4 3 3 possesion based football with wingers and a central striker according to his stats ... 

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30 minutes ago, hedersfox said:

Keanes managed 80 games and only lost 12 of them..

Win percentage is over 70 percent

And he plays 4 3 3 possesion based football with wingers and a central striker according to his stats ... 

Ruud’s record was amazing untill he came here 

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7 minutes ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

What's Salt Bae upto? A rare choice granted, but could be the kick up the rump we need.

He won the World Cup 

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2 hours ago, hedersfox said:

Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

 

So he won the Israeli league with the biggest club and then the Hungarian league with the biggest club? 

 

Cool. 

 

Seems to be working West. Can't wait til he wins the Croatian League with Dinamo. 

 

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Clearly no-one wants the job. Not even the incumbent. I suspect the shitshow of a season we all fear is actually going to happen...

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10 hours ago, hedersfox said:

Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

If he could get Dor Turgeman to also join us i would be well up for this.

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I'm somewhat resigned to the fact we didn't bring Maresca in until 16th June. I think that's around when we'll hear anything. Can't remember when Dean Smith was let go, but at the end of the day, mid June was when we appointed ahead of our last Championship season.

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I get the feeling we're waiting on the Rangers decision.  If RM doesn't get that job, he'll come here.  If RM does get the Rangers gig, then it's back to the drawing board for us.

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9 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

So he won the Israeli league with the biggest club and then the Hungarian league with the biggest club? 

 

Cool. 

 

Seems to be working West. Can't wait til he wins the Croatian League with Dinamo. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gravel said:

Nice day for polo

Basically I guess they have decided to stick with RVN, that’s why there is no news, because there is nothing to announce 

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7 minutes ago, Fox1norfolk said:

Basically I guess they have decided to stick with RVN, that’s why there is no news, because there is nothing to announce 

If this was true they would have told RVN this already and the news would be leaking out. By far the most likely scenario is that they have decided to replace and the delay is for one of three reasons: a) they haven't decided who they want; b) they have decided who they want but haven't persuaded him to join yet; or c) they are delaying proceedings for financial reasons related to RVN's pay-off and/or compensation for the new manager.

 

It's 3rd June. We could be waiting for a few weeks yet before anything happens.

 

 

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13 hours ago, hedersfox said:

Robbie keane could be a good option imo..

He won the league with Macabi tel Aviv in his 1st season and has just won the league in Hungary in his 1st season at Ferencvaros 

Pretty sure he had Mike Stowell on the coaching staff too 

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2 hours ago, CloudFox said:

I'm somewhat resigned to the fact we didn't bring Maresca in until 16th June. I think that's around when we'll hear anything. Can't remember when Dean Smith was let go, but at the end of the day, mid June was when we appointed ahead of our last Championship season.

We didn't have to make a pay off to bring Enzo in.

 

I don't see us sacking ruud until July 1st so his payment is in next years psr.

Would like to think we have an agreement with someone to walk in July 2nd but as its us probably not.

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