Next Manager

[Foxdiamond]

11 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Look at the managerial appointments so far in the championship Mason 33 wba, Still 32 Southampton, Manning 39 Norwich, and Pezzolano 42 Watford. 
Add to that Rohl 36 Sheffield weds, McKenna 39 at Ipswich and Mousinho 39 at Portsmouth. 
Yet for some reason we reportedly think dinosaur Dyche is the answer. 
 

 

Would have snapped up 51 year old Thomas Frank if we were in that market

[winteriscoming]

10 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Would have snapped up 51 year old Thomas Frank if we were in that market

Should have got him when Rodgers was fvcking everything up. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

3 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Should have got him when Rodgers was fvcking everything up. 

Yup I remember around September 2022 when everything was going tits up with Brendan Rogers and Thomas Frank was having problems at Brentford. We were heavily linked in getting Frank if Brendan was getting booted out. But we dithered and kept Rodgers on for another 6 months. 

[kingfox]

1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said:

really like really?
hes hardly used them, the stats have shown that, he hardly played Armstrong too as @Ric Flair said

if you look at players under 24 hes hardly developed many, what 3/4 at most in his career, even when Burnley/watford in the championship; he didnt give many a chance

 

its the same names every year when a manager gets sacked

after seeing what Moyes has done at everton with the same squad; makes you think, as Moyes made Beto look good, where as under Dyche he looked like a lost lamb

You can be in denial all you want mate, look at some of the players he helped develop at Burnley. 
 

Trippier was 21/22 when Dyche came into Burnley, Ben Mee(23), Danny Ings(20). Then as I’ve said already, some of the players he signed himself consist of Nick Pope, James Tarkowski, Nathan Collins, Michael Keane. At Watford he had a mixture of experience and players under the age of 25, Troy Deeney at 23 was top scorer under him. 
 

I’ve said already that he has a habit of signing experienced players, Burnley always had one of the more experienced squads in the Premier League and Championship during his tenure, Everton the same. 
 

But I’m not going to deny the fact, that he’s developed some really decent players throughout his career, who were under the age of 24 when he had them. 
 

If he did the same at Leicester, some fans would be relatively happy. 
 

But the two big turn off points for me are.

 

1) His style of play

2) Even though I’ll defend him in terms of younger players, I think it’s a guarantee that he’d also bring a few more experienced players into Leicester City

 

Ideally many fans, myself included, don’t really want to see that after Steve Cooper’s antics. 
 

Finding a manager though who prioritises youth is tricky, the most experienced one readily available is Hasenhuttl, but some fans won’t want him because we beat his team 9-0. 

[lcfcbluearmy]

15 hours ago, kingfox said:

The fact is though, the English game has changed since the days of having Nigel Pearson in charge of us. Guardiola’s style has taken off and been replicated, but as I’ve alluded to numerous times on here, if this season is anything to go by, being more fast & direct, while having the tools to do damage on fast breaks and counter attacks is the route to go down nowadays. 
 

I think Dyche’s style still has it’s place, and I think for a newly promoted team, I’d favour his style to lead you to survival over a possession heavy one. But I think the main tweak Dyche would need to make is utilise pace more, if he became manager, I’d hope he’d see Mavididi and Fatawu like he did Maxwel Cornet, and not prioritise Ayew and Reid or sign someone who’s main attribute is crossing but lacks pace. 
 

With Dyche, you expect him to improve our defence and turn us into a hard working and grafting team. 
 

The negative though is of course his old school style, they’ll be fans advocating for it, but my personal preference is the style of high energy counter-pressing. 
 

I’d rather see that long term over a Dyche style continuity plan. 

Yes it did change to a more possession based but as you say fast and direct is now taking over again which is more pearson/ dyche style possession football is bring found out even man city struggled trying to play that way this season

[RedSoxUK]

41 minutes ago, Gazza M said:

At 53 Dyche is by no means a dinosaur. We won the Prem with a guy then in his 60s. Maybe it is what we need to sort this mess of a squad out right now and grind us out results.

That's not what people mean by dinosaur 

[bald reynard]

2 hours ago, Outfox the Fox said:

I've been looking at the CV's and reputations (as summarised by a few commentators) of the 5 leading candidates in current betting:-

Rohl 4/7

Dyche 11/8

Carrick 7/1

Rosenior 8/1

O'Neil 10/1

 

Obviously, by a country mile, Rosenior is the leading candidate - his record and reputation is streets ahead of the others. But there is no way he'll want to leave a Ligue 1 club, playing in Europe and having just signed a new 3 year contract. Even if he did, there's way we can afford the sort of compo needed to get him.

 

Rohl looks to me, like the next best. He's done well at Wednesday and has a good CV as Assistant at a number of clubs. The problems with him of course, are he's still officially under contract (so could have compo issues), he wants to go back to Germany and he is also a very attractive candidate for clubs in a much better position than us (eg Ipswich, Brentford or even Sheffield United).

 

Of the rest, the standout for me, is, surprisingly, Carrick. Initially, I had doubts, especially after his record over the last season or two at Boro, when he appeared to blow their play off chances. But looking at how he was supported, looking at what resources were available to him, I think he's not entirely to blame. If you look at his overall managerial statistics (a 46% win record in nearly 3 years at Boro, plus how well he did at United, as a Coach, as well as being in Caretaker charge there - one similarity with a certain guy!), his style of play (pretty attractive, when you put it against Dyche's) and the reputation he has garnered over his managerial (and playing) career, he stacks up pretty well.

 

OF THE 5, he'd be my pick. But of course, there are FAR better candidates out there, its just difficult to see Rudkin or Top noticing them!

I'm coming round to thinking that Carrick is one the picks of the leading names mentioned. I agree that 1) Rosenior and 2) Rohl are better, but I can't see them coming. 

Up to this season, Carrick has never been in the frame for sacking, he's led Boro to League Cup semis and play off finals, but never got the club over the line. A 46% win record is good.

He's got a positive style of play, gets defensive stability and his Coaching background at United, was considered outstanding.

He got financial backing and support from Steve Gibson up to this season, but I think has been let down this year.

I agree there are better candiates out there, but we're unlikely to see them.

There is one issue. He's big mates with Kieran McKenna, since their time Coaching together at United. If McKenna goes to Brentford, I wouldn't be surprised if he recommended Carrick for Ipswich.

 

However, he is a far better bet than Dyche!

 

PS He's married to a Leicestershire lass - from Wymondham. Perhaps she'll encourage a move 'home'?!

Edited 13 June 2025 by bald reynard

[DezFox]

1 hour ago, Gazza M said:

At 53 Dyche is by no means a dinosaur. We won the Prem with a guy then in his 60s. Maybe it is what we need to sort this mess of a squad out right now and grind us out results.

To be fair I’m not sure the term “dinosaur” is always referring to age per se but more to football style and philosophy. 

[ealingfox]

10 minutes ago, bald reynard said:

I'm coming round to thinking that Carrick is one the picks of the leading names mentioned. I agree that 1) Rosenior and 2) Rohl are better, but I can't see them coming. 

Up to this season, Carrick has never been in the frame for sacking, he's led Boro to League Cup semis and play off finals, but never got the club over the line. A 46% win record is good.

He's got a positive style of play, gets defensive stability and his Coaching background at United, was considered outstanding.

He got financial backing and support from Steve Gibson up to this season, but I think has been let down this year.

I agree there are better candiates out there, but we're unlikely to see them.

There is one issue. He's big mates with Kieran McKenna, since their time Coaching together at United. If McKenna goes to Brentford, I wouldn't be surprised if he recommended Carrick for Ipswich.

 

However, he is a far better bet than Dyche!

 

PS He's married to a Leicestershire lass - from Wymondham. Perhaps she'll encourage a move 'home'?!

 

When were Middlesbrough in the playoff final?

[Scotch]

I'm more convinced than ever that Ruud will be kept on. 

[Spudulike]

7 minutes ago, DezFox said:

To be fair I’m not sure the term “dinosaur” is always referring to age per se but more to football style and philosophy. 

You could argue that tippy-tappy Pep style football is the new dinosaur. Many have seen enough and want change.

[bald reynard]

7 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

When were Middlesbrough in the playoff final?

Sorry, you're right, it was the semi final - against Cov - in Carrick's first season. Mind you, when he took over that season, they were in the bottom four and flirting with relegation. 

Edited 13 June 2025 by bald reynard

[winteriscoming]

Middlesbrough under Carrick have got worse every season. 
They’ve finished 4th, 8th and 10th. 
Can’t understand why anyone would want him. 

[DezFox]

8 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

You could argue that tippy-tappy Pep style football is the new dinosaur. Many have seen enough and want change.

Fair you could. That football is Victorian, not quite dinosaur. Too woke to be dinosaur. 😂

Edited 13 June 2025 by DezFox

[AjcW]

I’ve come up with the ultimate PSR fiddle that our lot wouldn’t dream of.

 

- Ruud needs to rebuild his reputation

- OHL need a manager

- They can “pay” the compensation to have him 

- He gets a year close to home to sort out some kind of comeback

- We get money to get a new manager and coaching team

 

 

 

…. yes I’ve reached rock bottom  

[BKLFox]

Ooh how we differ to Brentford fans
Brentford fans thanking Frank for getting them into the promise land & securing their 2 highest ever finishes in 9th & 10th position
Leicester fans Rodgers is a *&^%

[ClaphamFox]

1 minute ago, BKLFox said:

Ooh how we differ to Brentford fans
Brentford fans thanking Frank for getting them into the promise land & securing their 2 highest ever finishes in 9th & 10th position
Leicester fans Rodgers is a *&^%

Frank didn't completely sully his legacy by turning Brentford into a team of gutless losers on the verge of relegation though, did he? If he had, Brentford fans would probably be a bit less thankful.

[Claridge]

7 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Ooh how we differ to Brentford fans
Brentford fans thanking Frank for getting them into the promise land & securing their 2 highest ever finishes in 9th & 10th position
Leicester fans Rodgers is a *&^%

maybe the relegation form under him has something to do with👀

[Lad1966]

30 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I’ve come up with the ultimate PSR fiddle that our lot wouldn’t dream of.

 

- Ruud needs to rebuild his reputation

- OHL need a manager

- They can “pay” the compensation to have him 

- He gets a year close to home to sort out some kind of comeback

- We get money to get a new manager and coaching team

 

 

 

…. yes I’ve reached rock bottom  

It’s more of a plan, then  what the board have🤣🤣🤣

[Clogger_]

20 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Ooh how we differ to Brentford fans
Brentford fans thanking Frank for getting them into the promise land & securing their 2 highest ever finishes in 9th & 10th position
Leicester fans Rodgers is a *&^%

Not so different, both Brentford and Leicester fans are absolutely correct on these matters

[izzymuzzet]

1 hour ago, kingfox said:

You can be in denial all you want mate, look at some of the players he helped develop at Burnley. 
 

Trippier was 21/22 when Dyche came into Burnley, Ben Mee(23), Danny Ings(20). Then as I’ve said already, some of the players he signed himself consist of Nick Pope, James Tarkowski, Nathan Collins, Michael Keane. At Watford he had a mixture of experience and players under the age of 25, Troy Deeney at 23 was top scorer under him. 
 

I’ve said already that he has a habit of signing experienced players, Burnley always had one of the more experienced squads in the Premier League and Championship during his tenure, Everton the same. 
 

But I’m not going to deny the fact, that he’s developed some really decent players throughout his career, who were under the age of 24 when he had them. 
 

If he did the same at Leicester, some fans would be relatively happy. 
 

But the two big turn off points for me are.

 

1) His style of play

2) Even though I’ll defend him in terms of younger players, I think it’s a guarantee that he’d also bring a few more experienced players into Leicester City

 

Ideally many fans, myself included, don’t really want to see that after Steve Cooper’s antics. 
 

Finding a manager though who prioritises youth is tricky, the most experienced one readily available is Hasenhuttl, but some fans won’t want him because we beat his team 9-0. 

There’s a lot to admire about what Dyche achieved at Burnley but most of the players you mention here were signed or promoted from the academy over a decade ago. His record with younger players in the last 7 or 8 years is less impressive.
 

Think the accusations of him being a dinosaur are a bit off the mark but there’s no doubt that in the last couple of years at Burnley and at Everton he adopted a much more conservative style of play and was increasingly risk averse with player selection. My main ask of the next manager is to build a young, hungry squad and a clear route for progression for our many excellent academy prospects. I don’t think Dyche is the man for that job. 

[kingfox]

6 minutes ago, izzymuzzet said:

There’s a lot to admire about what Dyche achieved at Burnley but most of the players you mention here were signed or promoted from the academy over a decade ago. His record with younger players in the last 7 or 8 years is less impressive.
 

Think the accusations of him being a dinosaur are a bit off the mark but there’s no doubt that in the last couple of years at Burnley and at Everton he adopted a much more conservative style of play and was increasingly risk averse with player selection. My main ask of the next manager is to build a young, hungry squad and a clear route for progression for our many excellent academy prospects. I don’t think Dyche is the man for that job. 

The denial and perception that fans have though regarding Dyche, is that he’s just a guy who relies on experience and pushes young players to the side. When you look throughout his career, that claim just doesn’t really stack up. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, if he became Leicester City manager, I would thoroughly expect a bunch of experienced players walking through the door, but in certain other aspects, I just think Dyche gets treated a little too harshly. 
 

Many fans would prefer Danny Rohl, I’d certainly prefer him purely on the basis of his style of football. Very much like Dyche though, albeit a small sample size, he’s relied on a bunch of 30+ year olds at Sheffield Wednesday, and signed the likes of Yan Valery, Stuart Armstrong and Nathaniel Chalobah. 
 

Whatever manager you get there’s going to be pros and cons. I’ve advocated for numerous managers who have a good history of youth development, but even those are far from perfect. 

[lcfc_forever]

4 minutes ago, kingfox said:

The denial and perception that fans have though regarding Dyche, is that he’s just a guy who relies on experience and pushes young players to the side. When you look throughout his career, that claim just doesn’t really stack up. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, if he became Leicester City manager, I would thoroughly expect a bunch of experienced players walking through the door, but in certain other aspects, I just think Dyche gets treated a little too harshly. 
 

Many fans would prefer Danny Rohl, I’d certainly prefer him purely on the basis of his style of football. Very much like Dyche though, albeit a small sample size, he’s relied on a bunch of 30+ year olds at Sheffield Wednesday, and signed the likes of Yan Valery, Stuart Armstrong and Nathaniel Chalobah. 
 

Whatever manager you get there’s going to be pros and cons. I’ve advocated for numerous managers who have a good history of youth development, but even those are far from perfect. 

I'm happier than I thought I'd be with the idea of Dyche joining. Two of our key issues are defence and general culture, and confident he'd address both. You could imagine Nelson developing particularly well with Dyche given his record with centre-halves. Re. his perceived preference for older players (that @kingfox you've addressed), I don't think we're going to be purchasing many players given PSR except via free transfers so his hand will be forced to turn to youth. 

 

But like other posters have said, the switch in playing style would be huge and the players adjusting might well take time. 

[Guy]

2 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Yup I remember around September 2022 when everything was going tits up with Brendan Rogers and Thomas Frank was having problems at Brentford. We were heavily linked in getting Frank if Brendan was getting booted out. But we dithered and kept Rodgers on for another 6 months. 

Yep, after the dreadful start we then had that good little run befor Qatar World Cup I think, in late '22 and that was enough to keep Rodgers on for another x amonunt of months ... unfortunately! The club's history has since been re-written because of it in a negative way!

[kingfox]

12 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

I'm happier than I thought I'd be with the idea of Dyche joining. Two of our key issues are defence and general culture, and confident he'd address both. You could imagine Nelson developing particularly well with Dyche given his record with centre-halves. Re. his perceived preference for older players (that @kingfox you've addressed), I don't think we're going to be purchasing many players given PSR except via free transfers so his hand will be forced to turn to youth. 

 

But like other posters have said, the switch in playing style would be huge and the players adjusting might well take time. 

I think the pros you get with Dyche are…

 

1) He’d probably sort our defence out, and being a former centre back himself, he has signed some pretty good one’s throughout his career. 
 

2) He’d probably turn us into a hard working and grafting team. 
 

3) He’ll probably get rid of a bunch of unlikeable t***s that we currently have at Leicester City.

 

4) He has Championship promotion on his CV and he stabilised Burnley for a decent period of time. 
 

The cons

1) Style of play

2) Will probably sign a few experienced players

3) If we want continuity, who on earth would you turn to next if Dyche departed

 

Is that enough to get me excited at the prospect of Dyche as Leicester manager? 
 

In some aspects I’d be content, in other aspects I’d be absolutely shitting myself