MPH Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 I see that Chris Wilder has just been sacked by Sheffield United…
Tuna Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 We'll probably get the announcements on the same day, Ruud out and new manager in like Sheff Utd have done. 3
Super_horns Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 2 minutes ago, MPH said: I see that Chris Wilder has just been sacked by Sheffield United… And replaced already !
Sankey93 Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 I like Wilder and he knows this league very well! He seems a top bloke and he would rejuvenate the club and players seem to love him the only issue is I think he might only be a good manager for Sheffield United 😂
Sankey93 Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 36 minutes ago, Super_horns said: And replaced already ! What was wilder like at your mob ?
Super_horns Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 8 minutes ago, Sankey93 said: What was wilder like at your mob ? Rubbish but he was only there as a stop gap - even more so than usual !
FrankieADZ Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Sankey93 said: I like Wilder and he knows this league very well! He seems a top bloke and he would rejuvenate the club and players seem to love him the only issue is I think he might only be a good manager for Sheffield United 😂 thats because he is, was woeful at boro and watford in the championship Edited 18 June 2025 by FrankieADZ
cropstonfox Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 On 17/06/2025 at 13:31, AKCJ said: Boro preferring the man that has taken Luton from the Premier League to League One in about 15 minutes over Cooper but we shouldn't have sacked him don't forget!! Cooper was first choice,couldn't agree terms.
Ric Flair Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 31 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Good appointment Yeah he is. Amazed he's ended up there.
Nolucklcfc Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 1 hour ago, John rayner said: The season hasn't started yet but I'm fed up with it all ,no communication of what's going on and who is going to be in charge, the board need to pull there fingers out of there Ar*** ,tbh honest I can see us heading into league 1 Especially when we can all see it happening before it’s happened.
kingfox Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 2 hours ago, CloudFox said: Yes, but I don't think we are going to make as many changes as people think. We are terrible at offloading players, and I can't see us getting rid of Winks, Vestergaard, Soumare, Faes, etc. They're all going to be on high wages, and if we can't offload them, we can't have them just sitting on the bench or in Seagrave when we know 3/4 of those at least are good for Championship level. If the club want Winks back into the fold, then we might as well go for another possession based manager like Carrick, not sure he has the legs anymore for a Dyche or Rohl style, unless you get an energetic DM to compliment him. If Soumare and Faes are still with us next season, then we’re well and truly fvcked. 2 hours ago, CloudFox said: Striker area, I don't think we have any choice. Midfield will depend on the futures of Winks and Ndidi. We should revamp it, but will we...? I'm not confident we have the cash right now with PSR and points deductions swirling. Changes in certain areas will be inevitable, and I’ll include our midfield into that. As I said above, Winks staying will depend on who our manager is. Ndidi sticking around is very much up in the air, Soumare will surely leave, even if it’s only on loan. Who knows what our budget will be like, you had a bunch of Championship clubs spend between £20-30 million last season, I expect us to be in that range unless we do get hit with an embargo, or we’re more fvcked than we think. 2 hours ago, CloudFox said: Would you mind sharing which defenders would be well accustomed to his style? Obviously not Vestergaard or Faes. Coady barely played under him at Everton I think. Nelson's Oxford experience should help him, and could see him being Tarkowski-esque. Maybe Okoli...? My concern is that our defenders generally are not good at defending, which we've all moaned about for ages! The wingers bit is the biggest red flag for me, along with our need to focus on youth more (I just can't see Monga playing much under him). Assuming Mads and El Khanouss leave this summer (I hope not on the latter, but...) then our wingers are our best assets. We need to make sure they flourish—for our chances of promotion, for potential resale value, and frankly for our own enjoyment again as fans. We can't bring in a manager who doesn't get the best out of our assets. Maybe Dyche could, but I just can't see it. If it ends up being Dyche, then his history suggests that he likes defenders who are capable in the air. I think Souttar and Nelson would be a perfect pair for a Dyche style. Okoli albeit had an average aerial success rate last season, he did rank highly in terms of aerial duels last season. Think I expect some defenders to move on, maybe Coady, hopefully Faes and maybe one of Okoli or Vestergaard. If Dyche was appointed and we go into next season with Souttar, Nelson, Okoli/Vestergaard and maybe one new CB as our options, I’d be pretty happy with that. As I said also, the wing situation would also be the main concern for me. That’s where some of our strongest assets are, would he utilise our pace would be the biggest question mark imo. As for youth, it’s a debate that’s given me a headache I just think it’s a very difficult topic to judge Dyche on. 1
lcfc_forever Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 (edited) Tanner on The Final Whistle saying his sources suggest we’ll go for a young, progressive manager with a playing style similar to Enzo as that’s what Top prefers. He thinks Dyche is unlikely on that basis. He says Rohl fits that style but the club currently believe he’s too expensive to buy out of his contract. Edited 18 June 2025 by lcfc_forever 2
ClaphamFox Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 3 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Tanner on The Final Whistle saying his sources suggest we’ll go for a young, progressive manager with a playing style similar to Enzo as that’s what Top prefers. He says Rohl fits that style but the club currently believe he’s too expensive to buy out of his contract. That sounds far more plausible than the Dyche rumours. 2
Wortho Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 2 hours ago, Silebyfox_89 said: With the youth movement in the squad now it would be great to grab Southgate. Would command respect, track record with youth, good contacts in the game. Questions over going back to a club role but gotta be a better option than Dyche. As much as I don’t like Southgate perhaps he might be the answer 🤷♀️ 1
FrankieADZ Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kingfox said: If the club want Winks back into the fold, then we might as well go for another possession based manager like Carrick, not sure he has the legs anymore for a Dyche or Rohl style, unless you get an energetic DM to compliment him. If Soumare and Faes are still with us next season, then we’re well and truly fvcked. Changes in certain areas will be inevitable, and I’ll include our midfield into that. As I said above, Winks staying will depend on who our manager is. Ndidi sticking around is very much up in the air, Soumare will surely leave, even if it’s only on loan. Who knows what our budget will be like, you had a bunch of Championship clubs spend between £20-30 million last season, I expect us to be in that range unless we do get hit with an embargo, or we’re more fvcked than we think. If it ends up being Dyche, then his history suggests that he likes defenders who are capable in the air. I think Souttar and Nelson would be a perfect pair for a Dyche style. Okoli albeit had an average aerial success rate last season, he did rank highly in terms of aerial duels last season. Think I expect some defenders to move on, maybe Coady, hopefully Faes and maybe one of Okoli or Vestergaard. If Dyche was appointed and we go into next season with Souttar, Nelson, Okoli/Vestergaard and maybe one new CB as our options, I’d be pretty happy with that. As I said also, the wing situation would also be the main concern for me. That’s where some of our strongest assets are, would he utilise our pace would be the biggest question mark imo. As for youth, it’s a debate that’s given me a headache I just think it’s a very difficult topic to judge Dyche on. time to give you a headache also tanner said he'd be surprised if we appointed Dyche/Wilder also said they might look at the enzo route again, which i wouldnt be shocked with Edited 18 June 2025 by FrankieADZ
whoareyaaa Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 25 minutes ago, kingfox said: If the club want Winks back into the fold, then we might as well go for another possession based manager like Carrick, not sure he has the legs anymore for a Dyche or Rohl style, unless you get an energetic DM to compliment him. If Soumare and Faes are still with us next season, then we’re well and truly fvcked. Changes in certain areas will be inevitable, and I’ll include our midfield into that. As I said above, Winks staying will depend on who our manager is. Ndidi sticking around is very much up in the air, Soumare will surely leave, even if it’s only on loan. Who knows what our budget will be like, you had a bunch of Championship clubs spend between £20-30 million last season, I expect us to be in that range unless we do get hit with an embargo, or we’re more fvcked than we think. If it ends up being Dyche, then his history suggests that he likes defenders who are capable in the air. I think Souttar and Nelson would be a perfect pair for a Dyche style. Okoli albeit had an average aerial success rate last season, he did rank highly in terms of aerial duels last season. Think I expect some defenders to move on, maybe Coady, hopefully Faes and maybe one of Okoli or Vestergaard. If Dyche was appointed and we go into next season with Souttar, Nelson, Okoli/Vestergaard and maybe one new CB as our options, I’d be pretty happy with that. As I said also, the wing situation would also be the main concern for me. That’s where some of our strongest assets are, would he utilise our pace would be the biggest question mark imo. As for youth, it’s a debate that’s given me a headache I just think it’s a very difficult topic to judge Dyche on. Why wouldn’t a manager want Mav and Fatawu on the wings think he will have them as first choice while utilising Monga, Mcateer and BDCR.
kingfox Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 12 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said: time to give you a headache also tanner said he'd be surprised if we appointed Dyche/Wilder also said they might look at the enzo route again, which i wouldnt be shocked with Yep I saw his article yesterday mate. His comment made me instantly think Carrick 🙁 2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: Why wouldn’t a manager want Mav and Fatawu on the wings think he will have them as first choice while utilising Monga, Mcateer and BDCR. Just Dyche’s history with wingers would give me a seed of doubt, that’s all. He usually likes Michael Kightly, Robbie Brady types, rather than Mavididi and Fatawu types. Cornet is about the only winger he’s had with a bit of flair.
Aleksz Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 Looking forward to the reaction on here when we all get home from watching Dycheball try and break down an Oxford low block on a Tuesday night next January.
The whole world smiles Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 Makes me laugh how much Pearson is idolized on here but whenever similar kind of managers like dyche and Wilder are linked people are up in arms. 2
lcfc_forever Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 14 minutes ago, kingfox said: Yep I saw his article yesterday mate. His comment made me instantly think Carrick 🙁 Just Dyche’s history with wingers would give me a seed of doubt, that’s all. He usually likes Michael Kightly, Robbie Brady types, rather than Mavididi and Fatawu types. Cornet is about the only winger he’s had with a bit of flair. All making sense now. Vardy leaving, Top wanting a young coach, progressive style of football…welcome back Cambiasso! 😁
Ric Flair Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 23 minutes ago, kingfox said: Yep I saw his article yesterday mate. His comment made me instantly think Carrick 🙁 Just Dyche’s history with wingers would give me a seed of doubt, that’s all. He usually likes Michael Kightly, Robbie Brady types, rather than Mavididi and Fatawu types. Cornet is about the only winger he’s had with a bit of flair. Completely unsuitable to this squad of Fatawu, Mavididi, Monga, Alves, Evans. Although Mavididi had his best game of last season vs his Everton side so perhaps he'd be fond of him. 1
VLC86 Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 10 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Makes me laugh how much Pearson is idolized on here but whenever similar kind of managers like dyche and Wilder are linked people are up in arms. Well one of them re built us twice, Got us promoted twice and built the team that won the league while the other 2 haven’t so it’s not a shock is it. Wilder has now got sacked twice from the club he’s done the best at, having started ridiculously well over a few seasons he’s gone to shit. Dyche’s latest job looks worse by the minute after Moyes, who was also ridiculed on here incorrectly btw, has completely turned them around. It would be like Southampton appointing Pearson now, I would expect the same kind of reaction. 3
MPH Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 50 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Makes me laugh how much Pearson is idolized on here but whenever similar kind of managers like dyche and Wilder are linked people are up in arms. Have they taken on a pack of wild dogs? Throttled an opposition player? Told a ref to ‘ go away’ when he interrupted a team discussion? Signed Mahrez and Vardy? it’s for reasons like that , that he’s idolized dare I say as much as he is his managerial skills.. 1
Popular Post Mark_w Posted 18 June 2025 Popular Post Posted 18 June 2025 13 minutes ago, MPH said: Have they taken on a pack of wild dogs? Throttled an opposition player? Told a ref to ‘ go away’ when he interrupted a team discussion? Signed Mahrez and Vardy? it’s for reasons like that , that he’s idolized dare I say as much as he is his managerial skills.. No it's his managerial skills (which recruitment is definitely part of). The ability to bring good staff into every department at the football club and give them the freedom to do their jobs. The ability to identify players who aren't interested in the collective and fighting to remove them regardless of their reputation. The ability to identify the right players to sign, the knowledge of how to handle them, the bravery to prioritize long term success ahead of short term success and the ability to actually achieve that. Always putting a team out that at the very least looked committed. Taking us from the worst point in our history to our highest. I loved listening to his barbed interviews with Stringer, and all of that other stuff, but it's not why he's idolized. He's idolized because he created the greatest team in our history. 4 1
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