kingfox Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 58 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Completely unsuitable to this squad of Fatawu, Mavididi, Monga, Alves, Evans. Although Mavididi had his best game of last season vs his Everton side so perhaps he'd be fond of him. Read an article on Dyche’s time at Everton citing the lack of pace in the team, while as we know throughout his Burnley career, he usually likes a certain type of winger. Would be a massive question mark if he were appointed. From a pure style perspective, it’s why I’d give the edge to Rohl, he’s had players like Gassama and Musaba at Sheff Wed who can produce 1 vs 1 ability. 1
MPH Posted 18 June 2025 Posted 18 June 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mark_w said: I loved listening to his barbed interviews with Stringer, and all of that other stuff, but it's not why he's idolized. He's idolized because he created the greatest team in our history. he was idolized before he formed that team though wasn’t he? He was idolized before we won those 7 of the last 9 games. And before that, no one could have imagined how it would turn out, yet he was still idolized. Edited 18 June 2025 by MPH 1
Jon the Hat Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 5 hours ago, Tuna said: We'll probably get the announcements on the same day, Ruud out and new manager in like Sheff Utd have done. My money is on Friday 4th July.
Danizen Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 4 hours ago, MPH said: he was idolized before he formed that team though wasn’t he? He was idolized before we won those 7 of the last 9 games. And before that, no one could have imagined how it would turn out, yet he was still idolized. Can you not think of two big, shiny reasons as to why that might be? 1
Spanner73 Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 4 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: My money is on Friday 4th July. Leicester doing 2 things in 1 day ? I don’t think so 😂 🐌 🐌
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 19 June 2025 Popular Post Posted 19 June 2025 One thing i'm struggling to reconcile is, if we simply have to wait until July 1st to get rid because of PSR, is it not massively concerning we've had no solid rumours about players leaving this month? I'm unnerved that as it stands we'll not breach PSR for 24/25. Our club were confident we'd not breach 23/24 after the funds we raised for Enzo and KDH but that appears to be incorrect based on the recent charges brought. I know we could still avoid it but it shows either how subjective this is, or how difficult it seems to be for us to break free. 6
Claudio Fannieri Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 Wonder how much of what Rob Tanner has said is genuine insight and inside knowledge as oppose to him sharing his own personal perspective and opinion. However what is concerning, if Top genuinely wants to continue playing in a progressive style and favours young upcoming coaches then why is his DoF putting forward/recommending managers like Cooper and Dyche who are both polar opposites to what the owner is looking for. It absolutely beggars belief and further demonstrates that Rudkin is no longer fit for purpose.
Langston Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 If it's Dyche it's just so deflating but completely unsurprising.. a perfect example of the lack of joined up thinking across the board.. I look forward to us being lumbered with a load of Dyche signings that can't play the way the next manager wants to.. nothing will ever change.. 1
Danizen Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 5 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: My money is on Friday 4th July. If there's time after they've wished America a happy birthday, they might get round to it. 2
CloudFox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 3 hours ago, Danizen said: Can you not think of two big, shiny reasons as to why that might be? His trainers? 1
TheGoldenGod Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 200 pages and I was certain that they all couldn't have started during Ruud speculation....I was so very very wrong!
Muzzy_Izzn’t Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 You would hope that the silence is all pointing towards a deal already having been struck with Ruud going and Rohl coming in on July 1st.. Anything else would just be incredibly poor/incompetent management from above (which sadly is probably the case). If Ruud is staying, it should have been announced. If Ruud is going and set to be replaced by someone out of contract then they should have put Ruud on gardening leave and brought in the new manager already so they have time to assess everything and start getting the wheels in motion for summer transfers and pre-season. Surely that only leaves Ruud going and being replaced by Rohl (or someone of the like) and it’s embargoed until 1st July so any fee’s for the new manager goes into the new PSR reporting period. Though I fear trying to apply any common sense to our boards decision making is just folly.
honeybradger Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 To be honest we still probably go up again with Ruud in place. We stomped a full strength QPR in the FA cup last season who gave us a hard time last time we were in the championship with Maresca. If we cant get someone good then it's probably best to not start a manager merry go round. 1
VLC86 Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 6 minutes ago, honeybradger said: To be honest we still probably go up again with Ruud in place. We stomped a full strength QPR in the FA cup last season who gave us a hard time last time we were in the championship with Maresca. If we cant get someone good then it's probably best to not start a manager merry go round. Were QPR full strength? I know we pretty much were but I think they made a few changes.
Chelmofox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Wonder how much of what Rob Tanner has said is genuine insight and inside knowledge as oppose to him sharing his own personal perspective and opinion. However what is concerning, if Top genuinely wants to continue playing in a progressive style and favours young upcoming coaches then why is his DoF putting forward/recommending managers like Cooper and Dyche who are both polar opposites to what the owner is looking for. It absolutely beggars belief and further demonstrates that Rudkin is no longer fit for purpose. I might be wrong, but my impression is that Rob Tanner doesn't have any direct communication with anyone senior at the club. He will just be fed official information information via the normal press channels but i don't think he gets any special treatment. He said in one of the videos he has a lot of friends / contacts at the club, so will get fed information that way. But i think these days the execs are very secretive that most around the club have little idea what is going on. I think anything Tanner is talking about right now has no more credibility than anything posted on this forum. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 3 hours ago, Spanner73 said: Leicester doing 2 things in 1 day ? I don’t think so 😂 🐌 🐌 I can't recall a single instance of us sacking a manager and announcing a permanent replacement on the same day. I don't think we've ever done it.
EastAnglianFox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 24 minutes ago, honeybradger said: To be honest we still probably go up again with Ruud in place. We stomped a full strength QPR in the FA cup last season who gave us a hard time last time we were in the championship with Maresca. If we cant get someone good then it's probably best to not start a manager merry go round. They were nowhere near full strength, they made 6 changes from their usual first team Shocked a few Q.P.R fans how weak they went
ClaphamFox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 6 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: I might be wrong, but my impression is that Rob Tanner doesn't have any direct communication with anyone senior at the club. He will just be fed official information information via the normal press channels but i don't think he gets any special treatment. He said in one of the videos he has a lot of friends / contacts at the club, so will get fed information that way. But i think these days the execs are very secretive that most around the club have little idea what is going on. I think anything Tanner is talking about right now has no more credibility than anything posted on this forum. I think that is overstating it. Tanner is a professional journalist whose brief at the Athletic is to cover Leicester. He has been covering us for a decade and will have built up a lot of contacts within the club during that time. Obviously he will be privy to information that the rest of us don't have access to. He's also a cautious journalist who tends not to say things unless he's pretty confident in them. It's because of this that he rarely gets scoops - journalists who break stories tend to be those who take risks. This doesn't mean we should treat everything he says as gospel, but I think dismissing him as having no more credibility than a random forum poster is over the top. 1
Chelmofox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: I think that is overstating it. Tanner is a professional journalist whose brief at the Athletic is to cover Leicester. He has been covering us for a decade and will have built up a lot of contacts within the club during that time. Obviously he will be privy to information that the rest of us don't have access to. He's also a cautious journalist who tends not to say things unless he's pretty confident in them. It's because of this that he rarely gets scoops - journalists who break stories tend to be those who take risks. This doesn't mean we should treat everything he says as gospel, but I think dismissing him as having no more credibility than a random forum poster is over the top. I don't disagree with you about Tanner's background, and maybe my post was overstated a bit. He obviously has connections we don't (although there are some on who who do have some connections). My point was that the information he is discussing on the likes of the Final Whistle Pod doesn't really have any more meat to it right now than rumours that have ended up on here. I bet he is as frustrated as anyone at the club with the lack of information he has access to. 1
Spanner73 Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 46 minutes ago, Muzzy_Izzn’t said: You would hope that the silence is all pointing towards a deal already having been struck with Ruud going and Rohl coming in on July 1st.. Anything else would just be incredibly poor/incompetent management from above (which sadly is probably the case). If Ruud is staying, it should have been announced. If Ruud is going and set to be replaced by someone out of contract then they should have put Ruud on gardening leave and brought in the new manager already so they have time to assess everything and start getting the wheels in motion for summer transfers and pre-season. Surely that only leaves Ruud going and being replaced by Rohl (or someone of the like) and it’s embargoed until 1st July so any fee’s for the new manager goes into the new PSR reporting period. Though I fear trying to apply any common sense to our boards decision making is just folly. Yes they don’t possess any common sense whatsoever its like talking a foreign language to Dumb and Dumber 1
RedSoxUK Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 I don't buy the Top wanting to look like Man City comments we always hear. It doesn't make sense because we would never have looked at Dean Smith, Steve Cooper.. if you're ideological to that point you don't willy nilly shift. So I don't think Top/us are ideological in that sense, and if they were, perhaps not anymore.
Chelmofox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 20 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: I don't buy the Top wanting to look like Man City comments we always hear. It doesn't make sense because we would never have looked at Dean Smith, Steve Cooper.. if you're ideological to that point you don't willy nilly shift. So I don't think Top/us are ideological in that sense, and if they were, perhaps not anymore. What we want and what we can get are often 2 different things. They’ve wanted Potter for ages and by all accounts that was pretty close last summer. Cooper was backup and likely the reason he was sacked early is he was never wanted in the first place. I reckon Dyche, if being actually considered at all and of which there is nothing concrete, could be the same as Cooper.
ClaphamFox Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: I don't buy the Top wanting to look like Man City comments we always hear. It doesn't make sense because we would never have looked at Dean Smith, Steve Cooper.. if you're ideological to that point you don't willy nilly shift. So I don't think Top/us are ideological in that sense, and if they were, perhaps not anymore. Dean Smith was a stop gap manager appointed when very few other candidates were available. I don't think we can read anything into that appointment. Re: Steve Cooper, I get the sense that he probably told the board that he would carry on playing the same way that Enzo did. He probably pointed to his time in the Championship with Swansea and Forest, when he favoured a possession-oriented style, and argued that he could play the same way with us. So I don't think the club appointed him expecting him to take us too far away from the style that won us the division in 23/24. Besides, we had the threat of PSR hanging over us and were probably limited in terms of the quality of candidate we could attract. Cooper was very likely a compromise candidate that got the job because he was free and said all the right things in his interview. I can't imagine Dyche making false promises about his playing style, so if the club appointed him it would be with a clear understanding that we're heading in a different direction, style-wise. I also can't imagine Dyche taking kindly to be being told what kind of players he'd be able to target. This is why I remain sceptical of the Dyche rumours - it just feels like too much of a departure for the club and I'm just not convinced it's going to happen. Edited 19 June 2025 by ClaphamFox 1
HankMarvin Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 1 hour ago, honeybradger said: To be honest we still probably go up again with Ruud in place. We stomped a full strength QPR in the FA cup last season who gave us a hard time last time we were in the championship with Maresca. If we cant get someone good then it's probably best to not start a manager merry go round. Games in isolation don’t really mean much, by the time we played QPR it was only a month after his first game and 4 points from first 2 game, there was probably still belief in his methods.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 19 June 2025 Posted 19 June 2025 51 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said: I don't buy the Top wanting to look like Man City comments we always hear. It doesn't make sense because we would never have looked at Dean Smith, Steve Cooper.. if you're ideological to that point you don't willy nilly shift. So I don't think Top/us are ideological in that sense, and if they were, perhaps not anymore. The only thing I would say, both Smith and Cooper were desperate appointments. On both occasions, we were reportedly turned down by others before. Cooper left quite quickly for KP standards. Enzo was more the long term appointment. Which was very much in line with the philosophy. I don’t know where RVN ranks because I’m still trying to work out if he has a philosophy!
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