General News Thread

[Lionator]

3 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

In amongst this, the only party leader what has any ****ing sense is Zack Polanski (Davey to a point). As a leftie like myself, he's been largely superb in most interviews over the last couple of weeks. Some of his stuff this morning as a Jewish person from Manchester was nuanced and clearly delivered. 

He’s very solid albeit the bar is very low at the moment. He talks a good game, actually focuses on economic stuff which is absolutely the direction the left need to go and seems to have something about him. Much better than the Corbyn party nonsense. 

[PAULCFC]

23 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I saw that the father of the attacker yesterday posted on social media that this is not what the family are.  That this was a heinous act…….  the same man who posted on Oct 7 glorifying the attack ……clearly  the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree ……..

 

(mr al Shamie jnr was also on bail for a rape charge btw) 

Yes i thought that was slightly odd.Seems to be a bit of a theme.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I thought it meant ‘struggle’.  It doesn’t have to mean violence. 

not sure why you’d call your kid ‘struggle’ though 

Ask the mother

[danny.]

33 minutes ago, Lionator said:

He’s very solid albeit the bar is very low at the moment. He talks a good game, actually focuses on economic stuff which is absolutely the direction the left need to go and seems to have something about him. Much better than the Corbyn party nonsense. 

But he does hypnotise bigger boobs. Kind of hard to take anyone seriously after that. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

14 minutes ago, danny. said:

But he does hypnotise bigger boobs. Kind of hard to take anyone seriously after that. 

If it works I'm struggling to think of anyone I would take more seriously

[st albans fox]

23 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Incidentally, there are some claims in isr media that some of the flotilla vessels were empty of any aid.  They’ll  need all the ‘receipts’ with uncut videos or the accusation will be that they’ve simply unloaded it to make their point. 

Following this up, the flotilla x account has now commented that the flotilla wasn’t just about aid but about ‘breaking the siege’.  
 

so we have mass protests all over Europe because this aid wasn’t allowed to get to Gza and it seems there may not have been much aid at all across the 40 odd boats …..

 

I mean the whole scenario of a truck or two of aid arriving by boat compared to the several hundred trucks being sent in each day was ludicrous anyway. Seems it was perhaps a publicity stunt all along ……. 

[westernpark]

9 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Very sad news. May those who have lost their lives rest in peace. 
 

I made a decision to leave the UK with my family 6 months ago after a couple of years contemplating the idea. Where I’ve moved is an absolute melting pot but everything seems fine and my kids are getting to know many cultures and religion. 
 

I’ve been back for short periods for meetings etc. and never feel the same. It’s funny how a new place can become home so quickly. 
 

There is so much division and hatred in the UK which is far more apparent since my move. Really is sad. 

This country is great. I imagine a lot of the issues were personal to you. It’s good to hear you’re happy now.

[Trav Le Bleu]

6 minutes ago, westernpark said:

This country is great.

 

[st albans fox]

I think netenyhu is in big political trouble now 

[Super_horns]

How can someone do something so callous and horrific like this?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q1q1vd9yo

 

Heartbreaking story of evil.

[worthosoriginals]

5 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

How can someone do something so callous and horrific like this?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q1q1vd9yo

 

Heartbreaking story of evil.

Absolutely 

[bovril]

Maybe put stuff like that in the cvnts thread so I can avoid reading it. Incredibly disturbing. 

[Zear0]

18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think netenyhu is in big political trouble now 

No doubt he's already squared a pardon from Herzog to get this all stopped.

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

No doubt he's already squared a pardon from Herzog to get this all stopped.

Has been mooted - might be the price of peace 

but if trump is going to do what it looks like he’s doing then the isr govt cannot survive that agreement 

 

either BN goes it alone or his coalition falls.  It might not happen in the short term as opposition will support any ceasefire/deal vote but beyond that he’ll not have a majority 

[danny.]

1 hour ago, Super_horns said:

How can someone do something so callous and horrific like this?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q1q1vd9yo

 

Heartbreaking story of evil.

Cases like this make me wish for the return of capital punishment. Heartbreaking. 

[hejammy]

On 02/10/2025 at 21:51, Raj said:

Dont know why my post was deleted?

 

Hope the wider muslim community condemns this horrendous attack.

 

Unfortunately was coming with all the anti semitic and free Palestine  sentiment in this country.

 

Governments have given a free license to a certain sector of community to spread hatred against another community.

 

Imagine being a Jew walking around being surrounded in areas with Palestine  flags everywhere.

 

Country has to be careful where this could  go.

So by this statement, would you agree that if it is necessary for the wider Muslim communities to come out and condemn this attack, should the wider Jewish communities condemn what is happening in the Middle East and condemn Netanyahu? 

[Trav Le Bleu]

6 hours ago, Super_horns said:

How can someone do something so callous and horrific like this?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62q1q1vd9yo

 

Heartbreaking story of evil.

I like how the article warns of disturbing details after describing the injuries inflicted.

 

Seems to me the whole family is a massive screwup. It's depressing that people like this can have children when there are stable, emotionally balanced couples who can't.

[st albans fox]

3 hours ago, hejammy said:

So by this statement, would you agree that if it is necessary for the wider Muslim communities to come out and condemn this attack, should the wider Jewish communities condemn what is happening in the Middle East and condemn Netanyahu? 

Shouldn’t events in the U.K.  be separate.?  This is about a domestic terror attack. 

it’s not complicated af all - many Muslim leaders have condemned it as they should.
 

We should try not to conflate events here with those around the world - that way, deep complexity lies and it’s tough enough as it is.  that approach could be used or justify attacks like Thursday. 

[Raj]

4 hours ago, hejammy said:

So by this statement, would you agree that if it is necessary for the wider Muslim communities to come out and condemn this attack, should the wider Jewish communities condemn what is happening in the Middle East and condemn Netanyahu? 

Yes it would help....

Lets just concentrate on the events happening here first and try and avoid a potential disaster.

 

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Shouldn’t events in the U.K.  be separate.?  This is about a domestic terror attack. 

it’s not complicated af all - many Muslim leaders have condemned it as they should.
 

We should try not to conflate events here with those around the world - that way, deep complexity lies and it’s tough enough as it is.  that approach could be used or justify attacks like Thursday. 

As much as this argument is understandable, I have to ask - why not?

 

The UK does not exist in a geopolitical vacuum and some events that happen elsewhere do matter and do play into events in the UK. To ignore that, while avoiding that deep complexity mentioned, is to not only not grasp a large part of the story, but also possibly to miss key elements to prevent terrible events like this from happening again. 

 

The world is a smaller place now, some issues are global, and not treating them as such, while more comfortable for some people, will just allow those issues to snowball into something worse. 

[CosbehFox]

World is mad. Israel publically inviting Tommy Robinson as a guest of their government 

[RobHawk]

I wrote a long post detailing my thoughts on a lot of issues, looks like it didn't meet forum guidelines as it's not been posted, apologies for that. 

 

Crux of the post was shouldn't we all call out all the bad things regardless of who does them or what side we are on. Bad things are bad things regardless who does them. 

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, RobHawk said:

I wrote a long post detailing my thoughts on a lot of issues, looks like it didn't meet forum guidelines as it's not been posted, apologies for that. 

 

Crux of the post was shouldn't we all call out all the bad things regardless of who does them or what side we are on. Bad things are bad things regardless who does them. 

Yep.

 

Exactly as the magnificent Sir Terry wrote on the matter. The problem is not any one demographic - it's the malign among them all. 

[leicsmac]

Edit: OP was removed so saved mods the trouble with this one. 

Edited 4 October 2025 by leicsmac

[Foxdiamond]

51 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

As much as this argument is understandable, I have to ask - why not?

 

The UK does not exist in a geopolitical vacuum and some events that happen elsewhere do matter and do play into events in the UK. To ignore that, while avoiding that deep complexity mentioned, is to not only not grasp a large part of the story, but also possibly to miss key elements to prevent terrible events like this from happening again. 

 

The world is a smaller place now, some issues are global, and not treating them as such, while more comfortable for some people, will just allow those issues to snowball into something worse. 

No because it gives some people the warped justification to bring trouble onto our streets because of events in other countries.