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[st albans fox]

How do people decide what they choose to believe from trump and what they choose not to believe ? 
 

he’s made so many threats over the past 14 months (usually something to do with hell) and never really followed them through. Why do people think he’s serious rather than just trying to raise the stakes ?  However, the Iranian regime (as mentioned above) have nothing to lose because this is totally existential for them as a regional power so I’m not sure why he thinks this approach will work. 

looking at the bombings today of the railway lines and some roads, I wonder if this lays the ground for establishing a bridge head of ground troops with no ability of the IRGC to get to them via rail or road.  Again it could be to try and convince Iran that it’s coming and to make a deal of some kind. (Obvs one America would accept). 
 

[Trumpet]

Massive assumptions that he means nukes. Im sure he’s made it ambiguous to allow people to think that, but destroying infrastructure as he’s implied before today, would lead to some sort of collapse. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he wants everyone to think he means nukes, but I don’t think he actually means nukes. Just Trump saying Trump things.

[Lionator]

17 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

Massive assumptions that he means nukes. Im sure he’s made it ambiguous to allow people to think that, but destroying infrastructure as he’s implied before today, would lead to some sort of collapse. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he wants everyone to think he means nukes, but I don’t think he actually means nukes. Just Trump saying Trump things.

He’s far too much of a coward and narcissist to do that thankfully but ultimately where’s the off ramp other than humiliation? Everyone was saying this about Putin 2022, if he can’t win, he’ll nuke. Thankfully that de escalated a bit so it didn’t come to that. 

[leicsmac]

23 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

Massive assumptions that he means nukes. Im sure he’s made it ambiguous to allow people to think that, but destroying infrastructure as he’s implied before today, would lead to some sort of collapse. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, he wants everyone to think he means nukes, but I don’t think he actually means nukes. Just Trump saying Trump things.

I don't think that he'll go that far either, but there's more than enough conventional firepower available can destroy enough civilian infrastructure to make an entirely unacceptable humanitarian crisis. 

 

Either pathway is reprehensible. 

[Rubbersoul]

Regarding Trump, seriously how has nobody done it yet? 
 

The country full of guns and nutters? 

[Detroit Blues]

2 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

Regarding Trump, seriously how has nobody done it yet? 
 

The country full of guns and nutters? 

Multiple people have allegedly tried. 

[fox_favourite]

Regardless of what to believe his language on social media is completely unacceptable. He's suggesting war crimes!!!!!! These are real people, not a computer game. It's utterly disgusting, the Iranian public have been through a lot and then a foreign leader talks like this. His lost the plot and needs to be impeach before he does more lasting damage. He's virtually destroyed NATO, he's upset Europe, he's making Americans poorer with rising prices, apart from his corrupt friends. 

 

He shouldn't be a world leader....end of. 

 

Boycot the world cup as well with obscene pricing. 

Edited 7 April by fox_favourite

[ALC Fox]

If - and it's a colossal if - Trump is referring to using a nuclear weapon, you would hope that some sane individuals in the military refuse the order.

 

I'm not sure what would happen next, whether the next logical step is that Trump will purge the military until he finds people who will do his bidding or if that leads to the military deposing Trump. Either way, bad things happen. Maybe there's another, better, outcome.

 

Hopefully he's not referring to that. Maybe he's referring to a massive escalation in the use of non-nuclear weapons and/or boots on the ground. Again, only a really awful outcome can come from that.

 

Or maybe the deadline is extended again and maybe the actual grown-ups can talk and figure out a diplomatic end to this war. We can only hope.

[CornwallFox]

6 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

If - and it's a colossal if - Trump is referring to using a nuclear weapon, you would hope that some sane individuals in the military refuse the order.

 

I'm not sure what would happen next, whether the next logical step is that Trump will purge the military until he finds people who will do his bidding or if that leads to the military deposing Trump. Either way, bad things happen. Maybe there's another, better, outcome.

 

Hopefully he's not referring to that. Maybe he's referring to a massive escalation in the use of non-nuclear weapons and/or boots on the ground. Again, only a really awful outcome can come from that.

 

Or maybe the deadline is extended again and maybe the actual grown-ups can talk and figure out a diplomatic end to this war. We can only hope.

They've sacked a dozen generals in the last few days so a purge has already happened

[fox_favourite]

Ha. The astronauts on Artemis refused to talk to Trump   

 

Legends in space. 

[leicsmac]

Just now, fox_favourite said:

Ha. The astronauts on Artemis refused to talk to Trump   

 

Legends in space. 

They did talk to him not long either before or after loss of signal going round the Moon (can't remember which), though. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

5 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

Ha. The astronauts on Artemis refused to talk to Trump   

 

Legends in space. 

I bet an image like this doesn't move the Trumps and Putins of the world.

[The Bear]

Just now, Free Falling Foxes said:

I bet an image like this doesn't move the Trumps and Putins of the world.

CGI or a Fish-eye lens innit?

 

I love how much the Artemis II mission has apparently triggered the Flerfers. They were livestreaming it trying to pick apart the physics and numerous video cuts to justify it being a fake mission 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I bet an image like this doesn't move the Trumps and Putins of the world.

"That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

[MPH]

9 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I bet an image like this doesn't move the Trumps and Putins of the world.

 

Trump will want to check for oil before he decides if he’s interested 

[Free Falling Foxes]

The quote @leicsmac posted.

That's the tyrants, right there, in this paragraph. 

 

Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Edited 7 April by Free Falling Foxes

[Sly]

I’m assuming no Trump just means he’s going to order countless war crimes and destroy Irans infrastructure to the point that they can’t function as a country. 
 

Anyone even entertaining dropping a nuclear

bomb is insane. The unmeasurable and unnecessary loss of life from such an act of stupidity would be a stain on history.  

[leicsmac]

It won't be nuclear weapons.

 

It could well be a withering conventional strike that devastates the infrastructure that 90 million people require to survive.

 

Both are unacceptable and the latter could, in the long run, exact as much death and suffering as the former. 

 

5 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

The quote from @leicsmac

That's the tyrants, right there, in this paragraph. 

 

Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Terrestrial perspective is something far too many people with power lack. 

 

Unfortunately, it's rather difficult to teach such people that lesson in a way that really works. 

[Md9]

They should have sent trump into space he would have loved to be the first president to space. Then we could have left him them for ever turn off all communications and never hear from him again 

[wurmer]

Trump is an absolute deranged cvnt.

[Jattdogg]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

That's true, though having the VP himself visiting at the present time does send its own message and we'll see how Trump reacts should his buddy lose.

Its okay for trump to meddle in other countries elections but if we support his opponent  then fuk no!

 

His post this morning makes 0 sense and contradicts itself. Absolute cvnt of a human.

 

Well done fifa peace prize. T w a t s.

 

All nations should boycott the world cup. Have some fuking dignity and balls.

 

 

Edited 7 April by Jattdogg

[Vacamion]

 

It's all just so depressing. 

 

It could have been stopped after dozens and dozens of previous transgressions, all of which would have been disqualifying for anyone else.

 

I hate waking up and the first thing I do is checking what fresh madness has occurred.

 

May it end soon.  No, not that way...

[The Bear]

The problem with launching a nuke is that the bomb likely has to travel over either Russian or Chinese air-space. Which is extremely problematic and provocative in itself unless all countries are pre-warned about such a strike. 

[bovril]

It's the logical end point of trolling the libs and asserting your rights to say whatever "hurty words" you want without pushback. Congrats to all involved. 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, The Bear said:

The problem with launching a nuke is that the bomb likely has to travel over either Russian or Chinese air-space. Which is extremely problematic and provocative in itself unless all countries are pre-warned about such a strike. 

Could use an SSBN rather than a land-launched ICBM, with the aforementioned warning to other nuclear armed parties.

 

But I really don't think it's going to come to that.