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Wycombe DOF: So what’s with this Rudkin guy ? No one likes him, he sounds ok on the phone 

 

Yes Leicester fans don’t like him because he pays OTT in transfer fees and wages  for crap players 

 

Wycombe DOF: Oh does he now ? 
 

All bids have been rejected so far 

 

Rudkin Masterclass coming right up !!!!! 

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On 05/08/2025 at 16:32, honeybradger said:

So why is a player who is generally equivalent to Kelman (who bottom of the table QPR sold to bottom of the table charlton) considered good enough for promotion hopefuls Leicester?

 

For me Kone fails the eye test, he looks like he is going to be affected more than most good league one players when moving to a higher level due to having less space available to him and less mistakes to capitalise off of.

 

I will reiterate again, Evans is a major talent that we are very lucky to have on our hands. Why risk losing him for a striker who on the face of it is clumsy, slow and non-clinical? Is it just because we need to feel safe that we have a new 'established' striker even if he's not very good? Why not roll the dice and give Evans a chance to piece it all together rather than knock him down the ladder for a known player who doesnt seem to be very good?

I agree, for me its which one(both young and need development) is more likely to play, I think if we go into the season with our current crop of strikers, Evans will rarely get a look in. 

 

With Ayew and Daka😷 Getting a look in.

 

However if we get Kone, I think he will see way more minutes, with more development and improvement happening.

 

The priority for me is getting Minutes to the youth when possible, as of right now, we have the Experience and quality to out-do a lot of Championwhip teams.

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13 minutes ago, 2ndtierfox said:

I agree, for me its which one(both young and need development) is more likely to play, I think if we go into the season with our current crop of strikers, Evans will rarely get a look in. 

 

With Ayew and Daka😷 Getting a look in.

 

However if we get Kone, I think he will see way more minutes, with more development and improvement happening.

 

The priority for me is getting Minutes to the youth when possible, as of right now, we have the Experience and quality to out-do a lot of Championwhip teams.

You never know, there may be a bidding war going on for Daka’s signature that we just don’t know about? That could be enough to finance a weeks worth of clappers!

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13 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

You never know, there may be a bidding war going on for Daka’s signature that we just don’t know about? That could be enough to finance a weeks worth of clappers!

Ffs if we get more than 25quid we've had a great result.

 

Statue of Rudkin needs to be ordered first.

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3 hours ago, 2ndtierfox said:

I agree, for me its which one(both young and need development) is more likely to play, I think if we go into the season with our current crop of strikers, Evans will rarely get a look in. 

 

With Ayew and Daka😷 Getting a look in.

 

However if we get Kone, I think he will see way more minutes, with more development and improvement happening.

 

The priority for me is getting Minutes to the youth when possible, as of right now, we have the Experience and quality to out-do a lot of Championwhip teams.

I disagree, I may be wrong but I think if we sign Kone then that's Evans done here and he's not signing a new contract.

 

Youth usually only get given chances when there are more gaps in the squad, not less of them. With Evans not even making the bench for us in our last friendly he will probably take that as a sign that he is not going to get signifant championship gametime and he's only going to be further from the first team if we sign Kone.

 

This coming season is the perfect time to integrate Evans as a regular first teamer. We dont need Kone, who has a decent chance of not even coming good, and even if he comes good it would be at the cost of a far better striker talent in the form of Evans.

 

Therefore my preference would be that we dont make this transfer, im tired of our managers not backing young players then signing worse senior players. Last season it was Cooper not backing Alves then signing Cordova Reid, now it's Cifuentes not backing Evans and signing Kone.

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I think Wycombe can only lose out playing hard ball here. 
 

They had a strong season last season but trailed off. It’s a tough league this year with Cardiff, Luton and Plymouth having gone down with the likes of Huddersfield, Barnsley and Wigan strong for the league. Reading just missed the playoffs but are getting back on a level footing. Bolton as well. Stockport might push on. Wycombe are unlikely to finish as high as last season so the only sense to keep Kone is for his goals to get them up which is a tall ask.

 

It’s not an arrogant we are bigger comment, we say it ourselves about the likes of Justin, move them on and get a fee with a year left as you will lose them for free.

 

£5mill is decent for a league one for a player with a year left. They could make themselves stronger by reinvesting that amount!

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4 hours ago, honeybradger said:

I disagree, I may be wrong but I think if we sign Kone then that's Evans done here and he's not signing a new contract.

 

Youth usually only get given chances when there are more gaps in the squad, not less of them. With Evans not even making the bench for us in our last friendly he will probably take that as a sign that he is not going to get signifant championship gametime and he's only going to be further from the first team if we sign Kone.

 

This coming season is the perfect time to integrate Evans as a regular first teamer. We dont need Kone, who has a decent chance of not even coming good, and even if he comes good it would be at the cost of a far better striker talent in the form of Evans.

 

Therefore my preference would be that we dont make this transfer, im tired of our managers not backing young players then signing worse senior players. Last season it was Cooper not backing Alves then signing Cordova Reid, now it's Cifuentes not backing Evans and signing Kone.

Jake Evans is still not 17 yet, and the chances of him getting first team minutes anywhere else are remote. 

So yes he could say, I'm not signing a contract but will he be any better off anywhere else at the moment.  

It's unfair to judge players on pre season, but from the limited minutes that Evans had, he wasnt anywhere near as impressive as Monga, Aluko, Alves or Page in those minutes, in my opinion.

I know that be has been playing as a wide player for the 21s, and scored plenty of goals from that position, but from the very little I have seen from him, he is never going to be a winger.

He clearly knows where the back of the net is though,  juddging from the goals he has scored, and I would rather we play him as a number 9, going forward for the 21s, and see how he goes on from there.

 

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41 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Jake Evans is still not 17 yet, and the chances of him getting first team minutes anywhere else are remote. 

So yes he could say, I'm not signing a contract but will he be any better off anywhere else at the moment.  

It's unfair to judge players on pre season, but from the limited minutes that Evans had, he wasnt anywhere near as impressive as Monga, Aluko, Alves or Page in those minutes, in my opinion.

I know that be has been playing as a wide player for the 21s, and scored plenty of goals from that position, but from the very little I have seen from him, he is never going to be a winger.

He clearly knows where the back of the net is though,  juddging from the goals he has scored, and I would rather we play him as a number 9, going forward for the 21s, and see how he goes on from there.

 

He's unlikely to get first team minutes elsewhere unless he moves abroad (I think he would be the next big thing in scotland if he moved there for example) but the offer of a good wage to play youth football at somewhere like Man United would be tempting.

 

If you look at the U21 top scorers quite a few of them are running down their contracts and moving abroad.

 

I agree with you that he isnt a winger, he's not as good at taking on players like Monga, Fatawu, Mavididi or Alves. I was actually moderately impressed with his performance at striker against Peterborough despite all the criticism he got for not getting on the end of crosses (he could have run near post or held back, he decided to hold back and the cross went across goal it happens). Im disappointed he did not get more opportunities there and dont think it's fair to judge him off his games out wide as that's not his game, he needs to be around the box to be effective.

 

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12 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

He's unlikely to get first team minutes elsewhere unless he moves abroad (I think he would be the next big thing in scotland if he moved there for example) but the offer of a good wage to play youth football at somewhere like Man United would be tempting.

 

If you look at the U21 top scorers quite a few of them are running down their contracts and moving abroad.

 

I agree with you that he isnt a winger, he's not as good at taking on players like Monga, Fatawu, Mavididi or Alves. I was actually moderately impressed with his performance at striker against Portsmouth despite all the criticism he got for not getting on the end of crosses (he could have run near post or held back, he decided to hold back and the cross went across goal it happens). Im disappointed he did not get more opportunities there and dont think it's fair to judge him off his games out wide as that's not his game, he needs to be around the box to be effective.

 

I'm a big fan of Evans but i'm not sure of his best position. I think it's central but not as the lone striker. Hopefully a pathway is set up for him here.

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11 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

He's unlikely to get first team minutes elsewhere unless he moves abroad (I think he would be the next big thing in scotland if he moved there for example) but the offer of a good wage to play youth football at somewhere like Man United would be tempting.

 

If you look at the U21 top scorers quite a few of them are running down their contracts and moving abroad.

 

I agree with you that he isnt a winger, he's not as good at taking on players like Monga, Fatawu, Mavididi or Alves. I was actually moderately impressed with his performance at striker against Portsmouth despite all the criticism he got for not getting on the end of crosses (he could have run near post or held back, he decided to hold back and the cross went across goal it happens). Im disappointed he did not get more opportunities there and dont think it's fair to judge him off his games out wide as that's not his game, he needs to be around the box to be effective.

 

Completely agree, he needs to be played central. I thought his game in general against Peterborough, when he played as a striker was decent, but he had little or no service, and not much chance to impress in the short time he was given. 

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1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm a big fan of Evans but i'm not sure of his best position. I think it's central but not as the lone striker. Hopefully a pathway is set up for him here.

He may well develop into someone who can play as a lone striker, but I think that would come with time and experience.

I agree, at the moment he would need someone along side him, or at least someone who could support him, from in behind. 

He has a good touch, and you can see the talent and potential, I just don't see him as a wide player, and I really hope we move him central now, and build his future there.

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I’m not sure if Kone is the answer, other than the obligatory you tube clips I can’t say I’ve watched enough of him to really have a valid opinion, but he’s clearly got something, and is far from the finished article. In 11 months time we’ll be in the position of not having a senior striker at the club, as in all likelihood both Daka and Ayew will have left on a free
 

It’s sensible the club is looking for a striker who has raw potential, one who has all the attributes of a player who could score goals at the top level. One thing this club used to be good at, and I stress “used to” is succession planning. If we see Kone as someone to gamble on I’m all for it, and it makes a million times more sense than short termism signings like Bamford etc

 

Evans needs a pathway, absolutely, you don’t score that many goals at the age he is without having a bit of the X factor about him, but is he fully ready yet? I’m not so sure. The next 12 months is massively important for his development and being part of the first team squad, picking up minutes, we’ll hopefully see him developing into a number 9. I think we’ll start to see the emergence of Evans next season, as long as he sticks around long enough and signs that contract

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This is just one point of view and I haven't seen under 21 games or Evans play enough... but based on what I have seen ( games last season and pre season this year ) he's not ready yet and would be better developing in the under 21s. 

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1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Swansea dropping out will mean we leave our interest until the last week of the window to try and get a cut price deal. So that's the first 4 league fixtures with Ayew starting.

I wouldn't write off Celtic. They could afford the £5m, give him £20k a week, trophies and CL football for 1 or 2 seasons and then he could make his way to the PL. 

 

We need to get this done before their CL qualifying games. 

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1 hour ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

5m for Kone and sent Evans there on a season long loan (after he signs a new contract of course 😅).

 

Get it done Rudders!

He’s way too young to be going out on loan… let the poor lad finish school first.

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You only hope that IF Marti wants this lad, then Fluffkin is on it right now, given Wilf appears done and dusted.  
 

gerrimin.
 

 

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Whoever we get in as striker, Kone or not, will be brought in with the expectation that they're going to eventually be the starting number 9 for this year, after competing with Ayew. 

 

That has to be the intention with any transfer in. 

 

Then next year, when Daka and/or Ayew leaves at the end of their contracts, we look for another striker to compete, hopefully after promotion so that we have a bigger pond to fish in. 

 

If Evans is part of our future plans, which it looks like he is, then he will be used the same way that Monga is atm, with managed minutes, coming on as a sub. He cannot be expected to be competing for starting striker at age 17. That's a ridiculous level of pressure. Next year, or the year after that, he should be ready to start competing. 

 

Either way, any striker coming in now should have zero baring on Evans' career path. 

 

 

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